ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

[K8668B]

What the heck is "ARL"?

Sounds like something really important that i should do.

Braziliandude finally recovered?? NICE!!! Hes been working at it for awhile. He deserves it

 

[Nina]

What the heck is "ARL"?

Sounds like something really important that i should do.

Its for hair analyse, www.arltma.com

 

[K8668B]

Its for hair analyse, www.arltma.com

Thank you

 

[Canari]

nobody answered in the topic I made about the sub-forums." when you did get feedback.

You did, in PM, which is not showing the general concern of members. So it seems that nobody cares, but then everybody sees that some informations are lost in 50 pages and more. And also it results in repetitions. Clear titles are needed.

how is a welcome message going to stop people from asking random questions in threads that do not pertain to the thread topic?

By telling them to not do so and their question can be deleted. And by telling them the list of what they have to say in their own presentation. Some forum have a list of questions that you are free to answer, if it helps doing your presentation.

By separating and adding more sub forums is not going to do anything

Not adding, naming them the way that shows the process, and give emphasis on the different parts. Recovery is more than rotating some drugs to fight effect of the first drug. And identifying what is theory talking from its application, instead of now separating by disease.

I don't think testimony is the right word

I cannot guess right in English... Recovery stories are part of it, feed-back can be a better name? What you did and what was the result, but with the reference to your personal characterisitcs, so that people can know if they are in the same case. logs are part of this as well.
This is focus on the fact that everybody can bring something, not only receive. When you are in need, you think you cannot give and have nothing to give... but this is not true.
It is application and feed-back...

it sounds like we are selling some product

Yes, if we say "i have done this and it works" but do not say what was you metabolic state etc. Here the product is a protocol you want to decide and establish, and you will want to do the same as what worked for others, except that you are not the same. So testimonies allow to group people by ressemblances, and direct others to decide what has more chance to work for them.

What do you mean lifestyle? Give me an example... if you are talking about the swimming post

In exercise forum, if there is a thread about all that is about swimming, all can go there. gbol do not have to answer even... just a member who knows the forum better will say "hey, there is a topic about swimming in the exercise forum". If the guy has time, he will even put the link...

Life style is all that is not about taking pills and that helps!

Life-style is all about identifying what is good in traditional ways of living and what they offer. Gardening, fishing,, hunting, trekking, swimming, taking your bike instead of your car, is not fitness and bodybuilding. Then I have made the list before, about what we need for health.

I'm sure Steve just posted it in this thread because it was high traffic and Gbol's attention was here, so there is no "sub forum" that is going to fix that concept.

Yes, that is why Nina said very well she did not understand why he answers this kind of question to say he answered 100 times. This triggers to answer more. In rpf it triggered people to be provocative, as they noticed it was the best way to get an answer.... Answering with repetition make people try to ask more of such questions. And if I had been answered in the topic I made, i would not be derailing here.

the only issue that is left is asking repetitive questions in threads that do not pertain to the title

That can be avoided by what I said, and not having a forum called pfs and other specific issues. It cannot be separated from "general health" .

The only thing that is missing really in the content, is a way to know in what "box" we fit for balancing, and this should be out of a sharp focus on a desease. We balance persons, ourselves, and not our illness.

 

[Canari]

Its for hair analyse, www.arltma.com

Still want to know if we can follow TEI or if ARL is really better...

 

[Aleksandr]

I've repeated this before on my blogs, but the only medical doctor to proclaim being cured from PFS on PropeciaHelp went by "-JN-."

After 10 years of trying to battle it with hormones and all sorts of stuff, over a 6 month or so period of time he just went the "eradicating pathogens" route and "zinc/copper balance (ARL)" route.

I mean lets be honest here- this is what GBOL is saying. This is what that doctor "-JN-" said. I'm saying "eradicating pathogens" is extremely critical for how far I've come (realllly far), Chi said "eradicating pathogens, healing CFS" was how he healed from PFS.

It adds up. Using ARL to correct mineral balance will give one the optimum oxidation as possible. When oxidation is at its peak, the body does it's best possible job of eradicating pathogens. Less pathogen= better oxidation, mineral balance as well.

Does this not make sense to people? Do I sound crazy? LOL people on solvepfs think I'm out of my mind.

But this is PFS. This is what @gbolduev is explaining. You need to get balanced. Everybody is an individual. There is no one exact cure. All of these things can help that he suggest but the overall outcome is one needs to clear the bad (pathogens, toxins) and balance themselves so their body can do the best job of basically doing that for itself.

I think its iron to cooper ratio that is for pathogens. Zinc to copper is testosterone / progesterone to estrogen

 

[TubZy]

You did, in PM, which is not showing the general concern of members. So it seems that nobody cares, but then everybody sees that some informations are lost in 50 pages and more. And also it results in repetitions. Clear titles are needed.

I told you both in PM and in public as well....it was in the other half of this thread in which you separated posts too

In exercise forum, if there is a thread about all that is about swimming, all can go there. gbol do not have to answer even... just a member who knows the forum better will say "hey, there is a topic about swimming in the exercise forum". If the guy has time, he will even put the link...

Life style is all that is not about taking pills and that helps!

Life-style is all about identifying what is good in traditional ways of living and what they offer. Gardening, fishing,, hunting, trekking, swimming, taking your bike instead of your car, is not fitness and bodybuilding. Then I have made the list before, about what we need for health.

Yes, that is why Nina said very well she did not understand why he answers this kind of question to say he answered 100 times. This triggers to answer more. In rpf it triggered people to be provocative, as they noticed it was the best way to get an answer.... Answering with repetition make people try to ask more of such questions. And if I had been answered in the topic I made, i would not be derailing here.


That can be avoided by what I said, and not having a forum called pfs and other specific issues. It cannot be separated from "general health" .

The only thing that is missing really in the content, is a way to know in what "box" we fit for balancing, and this should be out of a sharp focus on a desease. We balance persons, ourselves, and not our illness.

Because he has mentioned it many times before. I uploaded Gbol's quotes and so did other members in this thread: Gbol Quotes & Ideas

Just press control + F and search "swimming" he mentions it twice how swimming is good for minerals. Any time you have a question in general, go to that thread (I put it in my sig) and search for the topic first, usually it has been addressed before 90% of the time.

Members here don't want to have to sort through a million sub forums and everyone elses health issues in order to find something in particular, that is how it gets unorganized and frustrating for everyone. We had this before. Members want to be able to go to specific disorder or category plus all disorders aren't the same. You keep looping together all disorders should be the same and treated the same way after Gbol told you different disorders require different protocols....so it does not make sense to list everything under "general health" (male members don't want to have to dig through female issue topics and vice versa)

Bottom line, nothing you mentioned is going to change the fact that if a new member wants attention, they are going to go to thread with high traffic and attention to get a quick answer. You are splitting hairs here, you are really trying to argue that fitness can't be considered exercise, biking, running? You really think that is going to make a difference just be changing the name? The people who are creating new threads are perfectly fine, they are creating content in the right space/sub forums. I already told you the issue, it is the random questions and posts that are posted in already existing threads.

Adding a wiki and transferring a lot of the content to it (like from the Gbol quote and ideas thread) will eliminate majority of the repetitive questions that get posted in this thread.

 

[Aflac94]

@gbolduev please confirm this final point and I’ll be another recovery to the list in a month.

Already cracked a fat at the beach today over a nice milf changing near me.

Of all the thousands of posts I've read on this site -- I think this is my favorite

 

[Aflac94]

I tried to PM you but it is impossible for me to PM you...maybe some administrator issue going on?
I receive a message telling me I can't PM you.

Same

 

[Canari]

I answered all here in sub-forum thread.

Anyway transferring to a wiki will do! What I did in forums was the equivalent of a wiki, but this was 15 years ago and wiki was not an option. The organisation I imagined for the forum is a wiki form.

Any way, the wiki will help, and as Ii work on a computer, I guess from reading some members, that a lot are using a smart phone! And this causes the mess of the lack of flexibility!

 

[Steve]

You did, in PM, which is not showing the general concern of members. So it seems that nobody cares, but then everybody sees that some informations are lost in 50 pages and more. And also it results in repetitions. Clear titles are needed.


By telling them to not do so and their question can be deleted. And by telling them the list of what they have to say in their own presentation. Some forum have a list of questions that you are free to answer, if it helps doing your presentation.


Not adding, naming them the way that shows the process, and give emphasis on the different parts. Recovery is more than rotating some drugs to fight effect of the first drug. And identifying what is theory talking from its application, instead of now separating by disease.


I cannot guess right in English... Recovery stories are part of it, feed-back can be a better name? What you did and what was the result, but with the reference to your personal characterisitcs, so that people can know if they are in the same case. logs are part of this as well.
This is focus on the fact that everybody can bring something, not only receive. When you are in need, you think you cannot give and have nothing to give... but this is not true.
It is application and feed-back...

Yes, if we say "i have done this and it works" but do not say what was you metabolic state etc. Here the product is a protocol you want to decide and establish, and you will want to do the same as what worked for others, except that you are not the same. So testimonies allow to group people by ressemblances, and direct others to decide what has more chance to work for them.


In exercise forum, if there is a thread about all that is about swimming, all can go there. gbol do not have to answer even... just a member who knows the forum better will say "hey, there is a topic about swimming in the exercise forum". If the guy has time, he will even put the link...

Life style is all that is not about taking pills and that helps!

Life-style is all about identifying what is good in traditional ways of living and what they offer. Gardening, fishing,, hunting, trekking, swimming, taking your bike instead of your car, is not fitness and bodybuilding. Then I have made the list before, about what we need for health.



Yes, that is why Nina said very well she did not understand why he answers this kind of question to say he answered 100 times. This triggers to answer more. In rpf it triggered people to be provocative, as they noticed it was the best way to get an answer.... Answering with repetition make people try to ask more of such questions. And if I had been answered in the topic I made, i would not be derailing here.


That can be avoided by what I said, and not having a forum called pfs and other specific issues. It cannot be separated from "general health" .

The only thing that is missing really in the content, is a way to know in what "box" we fit for balancing, and this should be out of a sharp focus on a desease. We balance persons, ourselves, and not our illness.

You are wrong on the swimming stuff being related to health. I already knew he said it for health. I was asking for specifically the zinc finger and pfs.

You might be trying to make a separate point, albeit a poor one, but you have used a shocking example to try to do this considering what I was asking was specifically related to the topic, not general health which I already knew what he had written.

 

[jacknap]

I am not an ARL consultant. LOL I am a hedge fund manager. I run a serious business. And I make money trading stocks , not balancing people. This whole health medicine thing is just a hobby. I don't balance people. I simply don't have time for it.

This is why I post here when I have free time, and I have very little free time. You could hire any practitioner from ARL to help you . the computer balances you , not the person.

Trust me computer will take care of most of your problems within 3-6 months. But then you have to quit and eat normally, since ARL does have long term mistakes.

When you give hair to ARL, practitioner gets computer recs. Practitioner himself knows nothing. So dont even ask them anything. They are clueless. They are just taught how to support a person during detox situations and reactions on the program. So it does not matter which practitioner you get , since it is the computer who makes the program, not the practitioner

what's ARL? would this work for someone who crashed from RU58841 as well?

 

[Aleksandr]

I told you both in PM and in public as well....it was in the other half of this thread in which you separated posts too





Because he has mentioned it many times before. I uploaded Gbol's quotes and so did other members in this thread: Gbol Quotes & Ideas

Just press control + F and search "swimming" he mentions it twice how swimming is good for minerals. Any time you have a question in general, go to that thread (I put it in my sig) and search for the topic first, usually it has been addressed before 90% of the time.

Members here don't want to have to sort through a million sub forums and everyone elses health issues in order to find something in particular, that is how it gets unorganized and frustrating for everyone. We had this before. Members want to be able to go to specific disorder or category plus all disorders aren't the same. You keep looping together all disorders should be the same and treated the same way after Gbol told you different disorders require different protocols....so it does not make sense to list everything under "general health" (male members don't want to have to dig through female issue topics and vice versa)

Bottom line, nothing you mentioned is going to change the fact that if a new member wants attention, they are going to go to thread with high traffic and attention to get a quick answer. You are splitting hairs here, you are really trying to argue that fitness can't be considered exercise, biking, running? You really think that is going to make a difference just be changing the name? The people who are creating new threads are perfectly fine, they are creating content in the right space/sub forums. I already told you the issue, it is the random questions and posts that are posted in already existing threads.

Adding a wiki and transferring a lot of the content to it (like from the Gbol quote and ideas thread) will eliminate majority of the repetitive questions that get posted in this thread.

I think the issue is everyone is different. Th whole message here is that you need to test your hair. The ultimate message of gbold: hair analysis and mineral balancing is what fixes people. Everyone will be different. Dont guess.

 

[Aleksandr]

what's ARL? would this work for someone who crashed from RU58841 as well?

Analytical research labs. They do hair testing and supplement recs based on that

 

[wuf]

I think you need to cure the causes , not to use patches to fix the causes, basically making the causes even worth.

I am trying to outline the causes why people lose potassium. And you are trying to override it with progesterone, which is basically the same as finasterid only it can be converted to cortisol if needed which is good.

Progesterone should be taken only when for some reason you are low on it. Otherwise you should take magnesiu, zinc potassium b6 and the whole nice yards, to retain potassium which will lower your progesterone.

May be it is ok for your case, but I know tons of people who lost all their hair on progesterone. I had the worst hairloss on progesterone, like lost half of my hair in a month.

Just do what works for you , I am against hormones. I am looking for the actual reason.

there are many cases of hairloss. If you found something that is working for you then great. If progesterone is working for you. Then you have to understand why your potassium is low and deal with it. Since progesterone alone will screw up your steroids. SO there will be hair , but with no testosterone.

I am not sure it is a good idea for a male to stay on progesterone constantly. And it is not like you will cure it and it will stay. You take away progesterone and you are screwed.

100mg seems like a huge dose to say on constantly for a man. these kinds of dosages could be taken to cure PFS for some people

You told me to take the same..mag zinc be potassium but my progesterone is low.

I TRIED PM you and mattyb. No one gives me back any simple answer. Could you please?

 

[Reverse]

Guys, I honestly wish you all the best and I try to steer you into the right direction. If I thought you could be helped by yourself I would definately try to outline more protocols. But for those who took some kind of drugs or got an imbalance not from the birth. Trust me your best choice would be ARL. Since ARL will manage your specific case and since you just took the drug and it was not inborn mutation, ARL will fix it very fast. MattyB and I are trying to help you . But it is hard since, it is case by case. When I have free time I will take a bunch of people into my skype and fix them. I promise. But it takes a lot of time.

@gbolduev
I was thinking about mutation and I agree there is no genetic mutation. However, I wonder if what we are experiencing in PFS is RNA mutation, alteration or disorder. Is there a change in transcription language? Also you said once we get things balanced via whatever you describe here or ARL, we should cease ARL protocol? Is it ok to then continue with lets say a body builders diet after being cured? What is your experience and the experience of those you've helped with diet and mineral/vitamin intake post recovery?

Also, now I'm just confused on what to do with all the recent posts in this thread. smh

 

[Vida]

Guys, I honestly wish you all the best and I try to steer you into the right direction. If I thought you could be helped by yourself I would definately try to outline more protocols. But for those who took some kind of drugs or got an imbalance not from the birth. Trust me your best choice would be ARL. Since ARL will manage your specific case and since you just took the drug and it was not inborn mutation, ARL will fix it very fast. MattyB and I are trying to help you . But it is hard since, it is case by case. When I have free time I will take a bunch of people into my skype and fix them. I promise. But it takes a lot of time.

Pray that you stand by your word and help all of these GUYS that are hoping that you will fix them, when you dont even have the decency to answer PM that someone in need sends you. Talk is cheap you know!

 

[Helen]

Pray that you stand by your word and help all of these GUYS that are hoping that you will fix them, when you dont even have the decency to answer PM that someone in need sends you. Talk is cheap you know!

Sorry, but I have no ability to live on this forum. I steered people in a direction. I showed that that direction works. Now you need to go and get balanced. I have no ability nor time to answer questions via PM. I usually don't answer Pms at all. People just write me Pms asking this or that. I have no clue, I dont have your tests. I dont have your labs. I don't guess. And I am not going to look at the labs, since I DO NOT BALANCE PEOPLE.

Mattyb and I outlined alklalosis fixing protocols, They are all in this thread. Plus there are protocols for slow and fast oxidizers, plus there is a thread with possible treatments all outlined @Tubzy( People cant see it for some reason)

So stop this decency talk. It is not decent that you expect me to sit here answering your questions. I am a healthy person with my own life. I am not a doctor and I am not planning to become one , or practice medicine. I mentioned this million times already.

I gave all the people the way out. Go do it. And stop making me your practitioner

if I took 1-2 people from here and fixed them, it does not mean I will sit here and keep fixing people one by one.

I said

1) ZInc finger protocol, HCL, aminos, brewest yeast( All outlined @TubZy)
2) ARL = program created by a computer specific to you , Will fix your SHBG and all other stuff.
3) Alkalosis protocol, plus fasting. outlined many times in this thread.


@TubZy People don't seem to see the outline you have and keep asking me questions. Sorry I won't be able to answer them, since most of your questions just don't make any sense and I 'm not going to spend hours explaining to you why. You have high SHBG, that is a metabolic problem ,not SHBG problem.( nettle root does not fix metabolic problem)

 

[raven]

The entitlement is ridiculous here. No one is responsible for fixing you except yourself. Be appreciative that this forum exists and that we aren't as isolated or hopeless as we were in the past. That being said I do think it would be good if the forum had a better educational section, where one could learn exactly what labs indicate which issues, what the recommended reading would be etc. That way we could all start contributing a bit more. I realise that the information is all out there it's just bloody impossible to find at the moment.

 

[Admiral]

Problem is that all most of these protocols are all over the place. I’ve come across the zinc finger protocol multiple times and it looks different each time. Not to mention the dose and durability often misses. I think that we could make progress there still, but I appreciate this site a lot.

Everybody is different, so there’s no cure all protocol, but this thread gave the lot of us hope in that the protocol Sevens used would be posted. We could all add and adjust his our selves, but that would have been a solid base for many of us.

Maybe the protocol was posted and I missed it, my bad if it has.

My only question for @gbolduev is if he would just help me read the bloodtest he specifically adviced PFS sufferers to take. Could barely afford the test so any help would make it a little less painful.