Dark circles under eyes/Dark eyelids

[esp90]

Does anyone else have dark circles under their eyes, aswell as dark eye lids? My circles are horrible and my eye lids too, it looks like I'm wearing eye-shadow, they are brown, and I dont and never have (I'm an man). I've heard it could be adrenal/thyroid related, anyone else have this? or anyone know how to fix it? Thanks.

 

[tanedout]

Yeah I have the same, but haven't sorted this yet. Goose12 on the zinc finger thread said he's sorted his dark circles though;

Before ru, randro, herbs, whey, and Pottassium chloride I had dark circles under my eyes, sunken in eyes, dry skin, ibs, impotent, hair loss, and liver pain. There was also a couple of times were had pain around my liver that made me fall to floor and start puking bile.

 

[Goose12]

Does anyone else have dark circles under their eyes, aswell as dark eye lids? My circles are horrible and my eye lids too, it looks like I'm wearing eye-shadow, they are brown, and I dont and never have (I'm an man). I've heard it could be adrenal/thyroid related, anyone else have this? or anyone know how to fix it? Thanks.

I had really dark, sunken in eyes also. It was ridiculous how dark they were. It all seemed related to copper toxicity and anything that cheated copper seems to help. Lipo Vitamin c, zinc with manganese, chorella, spurlina, and histadine chloride or you could take whey protien with potassium chloride. If you take any combo of these you should start noticing results in a day or two.

 

[esp90]

I had really dark, sunken in eyes also. It was ridiculous how dark they were. It all seemed related to copper toxicity and anything that cheated copper seems to help. Lipo Vitamin c, zinc with manganese, chorella, spurlina, and histadine chloride or you could take whey protien with potassium chloride. If you take any combo of these you should start noticing results in a day or two.

Thanks, awesome you resolved it,
But, are you saying whey protien with potassium chloride will have the same effect as Lipo Vitamin c, zinc with manganese, chorella, spurlina, and histadine chloride? how does that work? :O

 

[Goose12]

I am not 100% on how it works but I think the main issue is metal toxicity, but maonly copper. Whey with pottasium chloride and other electrolytes allow amino acids to be used in the body. Amino acids detoxify and allow other metals and minerals to be bioavailable.

Vitamin c, zinc, and manganese chelate copper in different parts of the body. A lot of copper is stored in the liver so lipo vitamin c chelate it there. With lipo vitamin c alone you should notice your dark circles fade within a couple of days to a week.

Chorella and spurlina chelates other minerals besides just copper and can also help.

Each one alone will make a difference but whey with electrolytes, zinc, and manganese are probably the most effective.

 

[esp90]

I am not 100% on how it works but I think the main issue is metal toxicity, but maonly copper. Whey with pottasium chloride and other electrolytes allow amino acids to be used in the body. Amino acids detoxify and allow other metals and minerals to be bioavailable.

Vitamin c, zinc, and manganese chelate copper in different parts of the body. A lot of copper is stored in the liver so lipo vitamin c chelate it there. With lipo vitamin c alone you should notice your dark circles fade within a couple of days to a week.

Chorella and spurlina chelates other minerals besides just copper and can also help.

Each one alone will make a difference but whey with electrolytes, zinc, and manganese are probably the most effective.

Interesting. I've treid lipo vit C before for months and it did nothing for me. Although I've always felt I dont digest proteins well, I've tried EEA before and my skin issues got way worse, it seems to do that when I go too high on proteins in general actually.

But I've got all the symptoms of protein deficiency lol. I'll give Whey protein a try though, Do you think it would be wise to use HCL and enzymes with it given the trouble I have digesting protein? Or maybe you cant do that with Protein Powders?

 

[Goose12]

Interesting. I've treid lipo vit C before for months and it did nothing for me. Although I've always felt I dont digest proteins well, I've tried EEA before and my skin issues got way worse, it seems to do that when I go too high on proteins in general actually.

But I've got all the symptoms of protein deficiency lol. I'll give Whey protein a try though, Do you think it would be wise to use HCL and enzymes with it given the trouble I have digesting protein? Or maybe you cant do that with Protein Powders?

I am surprised lipo vitamin c didn't help at least a little. Here is the brand I used.
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When I first crashed I could not digest protein either. I love eating meat but after I crashed I would only eat one serving a day, compared to it being 80% of my diet before. The only thing I could handle was fruit, at the time fruit was 80% of my diet, literally. I had a lot of liver/ galbladder pain at the time.

Wormwood, ru, and whey with electrolytes help fix my digestion.

I tried whey by itself and it did nothing, and the same with pottasium chloride and magnesium. But when I took them together it helped, and yes I think you should add hcl it should help also. Also enzymes couldn't hurt either.

 

[esp90]

I am surprised lipo vitamin c didn't help at least a little. Here is the brand I used.
EAIaIQobChMI6LSzqfKK2QIV3rrACh3B6wtQEAQYASABEgL_TfD_BwE

When I first crashed I could not digest protein either. I love eating meat but after I crashed I would only eat one serving a day, compared to it being 80% of my diet before. The only thing I could handle was fruit, at the time fruit was 80% of my diet, literally. I had a lot of liver/ galbladder pain at the time.

Wormwood, ru, and whey with electrolytes help fix my digestion.

I tried whey by itself and it did nothing, and the same with pottasium chloride and magnesium. But when I took them together it helped, and yes I think you should add hcl it should help also. Also enzymes couldn't hurt either.

What made you crash if I may ask?
What is "ru", i see it everywhere on this website? Do you recommend taking the potassium at the exact time as you do the Whey or just sometime during the day?
I've got alot of issues with food sensitivity, im intolerant to Histamine, salicylates, gluten, glutamate ect...so I'm thinking I've got methylation problems big time...

 

[Goose12]

What made you crash if I may ask?
What is "ru", i see it everywhere on this website? Do you recommend taking the potassium at the exact time as you do the Whey or just sometime during the day?
I've got alot of issues with food sensitivity, im intolerant to Histamine, salicylates, gluten, glutamate ect...so I'm thinking I've got methylation problems big time...

I crashed from saw palmetto. It's a progestin just like fin, and got all of the same sides.

I would take the pottasium chloride at the same time.

 

[Canari]

What is "ru", i see it everywhere on this website?

RU is an abortion drug that is used for its hormonal properties for helping pfs by bouncing back effect when you stop it.
There is no ONE thread summerizing its use?

I've got alot of issues with food sensitivity, im intolerant to Histamine, salicylates, gluten, glutamate ect..

This has been talked about, but maybe it is hard to connect all dots from different threads. Your intolerance to proteins, like me, proves they are not digested and assimilated properly.

I am actually eating a very high protein diet, and your taste for proteins proves you lack aminos too!
In lab section I posted about a hair bulb test that gives you your aminos and hormones status in tissues.

The solution seems to be :
- taking betaine hcl,
- and eating proteins in a way that you assimilate them, = slow cooked and nearest to raw you can. Slow cook your fish with zero boiling, and taste is amazing, also structure does not become hard. Tartare beef is a good option! I stir egg whites in hot tomato sauce until white but no boiling of the egg. Tomato has K !
- When meat is fatty, or and fat in the meal, mix an egg yolk for its lecithin emulsifying fats. If using bone broth, stir the yolk in you plate/bowl, when it has cooled down and you are about to eat.
- take bitter greens as breakfast and/or with/before your meals. I use some raw veggies as I would a spice, like taking a leave of parsley when chewing meat. It helps breaking it and I feel it better in the stomach too. I use individual leaves, and various, so that I can change and appreciate the various tastes. Eating is very interesting when you test and feel what you eat!
- Separate proteins from carbs, zero starch with meat and fish meals, if you have digestive issues. This is an overlooked point for most people.
- salt to taste for Cl,
- and KCl, potassium chloride. (but I am low in K, so it depends on you for this) Whatever mineral you need, take the Cl form. If Mg, you can take it through skin for sure, and it seems that others can too.

Cl is needed to produce you HCl in stomach, for protein digestion.

About vitamine c: I use a product called c-salt, I said the composition before, vitC + K Mg Zn
it stopped my morning or night leg cramping.

Hope this helps you!

 

[esp90]

I crashed from saw palmetto. It's a progestin just like fin, and got all of the same sides.

I would take the pottasium chloride at the same time.

OK thanks alot. couple more questions about the Whey, did you replace all of your proteinintake with Whey or just use it as a supplement? if so how many grams,, doses pery day?
How many mg of potassiumchloride did you do do with each dose of whey protein? ...just wanna get it right

 

[esp90]

RU is an abortion drug that is used for its hormonal properties for helping pfs by bouncing back effect when you stop it.
There is no ONE thread summerizing its use?

This has been talked about, but maybe it is hard to connect all dots from different threads. Your intolerance to proteins, like me, proves they are not digested and assimilated properly.

I am actually eating a very high protein diet, and your taste for proteins proves you lack aminos too!
In lab section I posted about a hair bulb test that gives you your aminos and hormones status in tissues.

The solution seems to be :
- taking betaine hcl,
- and eating proteins in a way that you assimilate them, = slow cooked and nearest to raw you can. Slow cook your fish with zero boiling, and taste is amazing, also structure does not become hard. Tartare beef is a good option! I stir egg whites in hot tomato sauce until white but no boiling of the egg. Tomato has K !
- When meat is fatty, or and fat in the meal, mix an egg yolk for its lecithin emulsifying fats. If using bone broth, stir the yolk in you plate/bowl, when it has cooled down and you are about to eat.
- take bitter greens as breakfast and/or with/before your meals. I use some raw veggies as I would a spice, like taking a leave of parsley when chewing meat. It helps breaking it and I feel it better in the stomach too. I use individual leaves, and various, so that I can change and appreciate the various tastes. Eating is very interesting when you test and feel what you eat!
- Separate proteins from carbs, zero starch with meat and fish meals, if you have digestive issues. This is an overlooked point for most people.
- salt to taste for Cl,
- and KCl, potassium chloride. (but I am low in K, so it depends on you for this) Whatever mineral you need, take the Cl form. If Mg, you can take it through skin for sure, and it seems that others can too.

Cl is needed to produce you HCl in stomach, for protein digestion.

About vitamine c: I use a product called c-salt, I said the composition before, vitC + K Mg Zn
it stopped my morning or night leg cramping.

Hope this helps you!

Wow Canari! Thx for all of that, im gonna have to read that a couple of times to get it all in Have you solved your issues healthwise...what ever they may be?

 

[Canari]

I tend to write as concentrated as tomato sauce sometimes!
Thanks for your care, I have come to put some news on my log "balance path", and digestion gets better, and signs of alkalosis too, though ups and downs. I have similarities with you about proteins and liver.

 

[Goose12]

OK thanks alot. couple more questions about the Whey, did you replace all of your proteinintake with Whey or just use it as a supplement? if so how many grams,, doses pery day?
How many mg of potassiumchloride did you do do with each dose of whey protein? ...just wanna get it right

I just did one serving a day of whey with 500mgs of pottasium chloride. I don't know if it made a difference but the whey I used was isolated whey.

There gave been some days I used two servings.

 

[esp90]

RU is an abortion drug that is used for its hormonal properties for helping pfs by bouncing back effect when you stop it.
There is no ONE thread summerizing its use?

This has been talked about, but maybe it is hard to connect all dots from different threads. Your intolerance to proteins, like me, proves they are not digested and assimilated properly.

I am actually eating a very high protein diet, and your taste for proteins proves you lack aminos too!
In lab section I posted about a hair bulb test that gives you your aminos and hormones status in tissues.

The solution seems to be :
- taking betaine hcl,
- and eating proteins in a way that you assimilate them, = slow cooked and nearest to raw you can. Slow cook your fish with zero boiling, and taste is amazing, also structure does not become hard. Tartare beef is a good option! I stir egg whites in hot tomato sauce until white but no boiling of the egg. Tomato has K !
- When meat is fatty, or and fat in the meal, mix an egg yolk for its lecithin emulsifying fats. If using bone broth, stir the yolk in you plate/bowl, when it has cooled down and you are about to eat.
- take bitter greens as breakfast and/or with/before your meals. I use some raw veggies as I would a spice, like taking a leave of parsley when chewing meat. It helps breaking it and I feel it better in the stomach too. I use individual leaves, and various, so that I can change and appreciate the various tastes. Eating is very interesting when you test and feel what you eat!
- Separate proteins from carbs, zero starch with meat and fish meals, if you have digestive issues. This is an overlooked point for most people.
- salt to taste for Cl,
- and KCl, potassium chloride. (but I am low in K, so it depends on you for this) Whatever mineral you need, take the Cl form. If Mg, you can take it through skin for sure, and it seems that others can too.

Cl is needed to produce you HCl in stomach, for protein digestion.

About vitamine c: I use a product called c-salt, I said the composition before, vitC + K Mg Zn
it stopped my morning or night leg cramping.

Hope this helps you!

I always have lots of mucus from my nose hours or a day after eating a big protein meal, I always thought of it as an allergy symptom, do you think It could be a sign that the protein I ate didnt get digested properly?

 

[Canari]

I always have lots of mucus from my nose hours or a day after eating a big protein meal, I always thought of it as an allergy symptom, do you think It could be a sign that the protein I ate didnt get digested properly?

Yes, and I have always seen mucus as part of a sugar problem, or lactose when from dairy.

My guess is that meat messes with the starches you probably eat with the meat. I would try to eat a green salad, as bitter as possible, like matty says in the morning, and salty, but also at meal, and eat meat with zero carbs at the same meal, to see the difference. Just meat and veggies, and you can also get cooked ones, if they are not starchy, no potato... Then for me works to use betaine hcl.

Is it the same for you with any protein? Or more with meat than others?

 

[esp90]

Yes, and I have always seen mucus as part of a sugar problem, or lactose when from dairy.

My guess is that meat messes with the starches you probably eat with the meat. I would try to eat a green salad, as bitter as possible, like matty says in the morning, and salty, but also at meal, and eat meat with zero carbs at the same meal, to see the difference. Just meat and veggies, and you can also get cooked ones, if they are not starchy, no potato... Then for me works to use betaine hcl.

Is it the same for you with any protein? Or more with meat than others?

I get it with all proteins although dairy and eggs are the worst. So you think i'd do better with raw eggs then?

 

[Canari]

I get it with all proteins although dairy and eggs are the worst. So you think i'd do better with raw eggs then?

/1st i would make the trial to eat proteins with vegs and absolutely no starch at the same meal.
/ those 2 proteins are the most allergizing... more than meat and fish, so maybe focus on meat and fish?
/ I gave my recipe in my log, about low cooking for the white. I rarely eat it real raw. I prefer white white!
/ Do you take betaine hcl for digesting proteins better? I see it as really necessary.

 

[MNK99]

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[RebelWithACause]

@MNK99 I swear you are the Canadian Patrick Bateman.