RWAC's PFS log (on the TEI train)

[RebelWithACause]

My skin is oilier today.
No dry skin.
This is after having dry skin for months. My skin looked bad for a while.
Less bloat in face.
Libido is not great. But I slept bad and I trained hard this morning.

Tomorrow I am going to take a day off from training.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Adding in R-Andro 200mg for 1 day. To see what happens.

Today: copper 1 mg, magnesium, potassium + R-Andro 200mg

 

[RebelWithACause]

To update last days:

• My libido and motivation is low. Lowest it has been in a while. Feels like a flatline. No fantasising, no boners.
• Mood has been OK, anxiety throughout the day is less
• Sleep has been shit. I think from the copper.
• Increased hunger
• Today I added in R-Andro 200mg. For 1 day. To see what it does.
• I ordered Ella today and it will be here on Tuesday
• Supplements at this point: copper 1-2mg, l-cysteine 500mg, magnesium chloride 250-500mg, potassium chloride 500+mg (+R-Andro 200mg today)
• Diet: no caffeine, red meat, chicken, spinach, whey, white rice, white potatoes, some dates, beet juice, tomato juice
• NoFap

 

[barbaar]

To update last days:

• My libido and motivation is low. Lowest it has been in a while. Feels like a flatline. No fantasising, no boners.
• Mood has been OK, anxiety throughout the day is less
• Sleep has been shit. I think from the copper.
• Increased hunger
• Today I added in R-Andro 200mg. For 1 day. To see what it does.
• I ordered Ella today and it will be here on Tuesday
• Supplements at this point: copper 1-2mg, l-cysteine 500mg, magnesium chloride 250-500mg, potassium chloride 500+mg (+R-Andro 200mg today)
• Diet: no caffeine, red meat, chicken, spinach, whey, white rice, white potatoes, some dates, beet juice, tomato juice
• NoFap

Fwiw, if I do nofap my already super low libido disappears completely. I don't bother with it anymore as it doesn't seem to give me any benefits.

 

[MNK99]

@barbaar
NF is super hard for me unless I occupy all my free time with friends/or I'm outside, after handling responsibilities. Or I travel for a few weeks. It did however make me better with eye-contact and better with women, more natural. (need to do it again for a long time). I know you didn't get libido benefits but what about mentally? I thought it may help focus, mood, and energy ... it does a bit, and also I think gym gains bc of the testosterone boost at around day 7 and 14 again. The most significant benefit was confidence and energy, but it was no panacea (way before pfs).

 

[barbaar]

@barbaar
NF is super hard for me unless I occupy all my free time with friends/or I'm outside, after handling responsibilities. It did however make me better with eye-contact and better with women, more natural. (need to do it again for a long time). I know you didn't get libido benefits but what about mentally? I thought it may help focus, mood, and energy ... it does a bit, and also I think gym gains bc of the testosterone boost at around day 7 and 14 again. The most significant benefit was confidence and energy, but it was no panacea (way before pfs).

You're right, I did notice some mental benefits like reduced social anxiety and a little bit more energy after a week or two. If it helped libido too I'd do it way more often lol.

 

[RebelWithACause]

So yesterday I took: copper 1mg, potassium, magnesium, R-Andro 200mg, Tongkat Ali, tomato juice, beet juice, meat, whey

Had a good day today guys. Low anxiety. Confidence. Girls seemed to be into me. Not sure if it was still the R-Andro working. Libido was higher in the morning.

I did not feel the same pre-fin but mentally I felt close. Just with a lower libido.

Hopefully tomorrow I will feel good again.

I am not taking R-Andro today. It was to test.

Tomorrow Ella will arrive.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Got the Ella. Starting tomorrow morning with 5mg ED.

 

[Admiral]

You are agressive man, goodluck!

Won’t you try a hair test and get balanced that way, though? Seems like the safest and most effective route..

 

[RebelWithACause]

You are agressive man, goodluck!

Won’t you try a hair test and get balanced that way, though? Seems like the safest and most effective route..

Yea I ordered the hair test. I agree it's safer. But I want to try this since some guys had success with it. I will let you know how it went.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Took 5mg Ella today. I will take it for the next 5 days every morning. I also sent my hair to lab to get it tested.

Cannot tell what effect Ella has. I had nervous energy today. Less brainfog. Overall I feel OK. I would say better than baseline.

Funny story. I cut the Ella on a plate. Left the plate in my room. Our heater had to be fixed. In my room too. My roommate had to place my desk somewhere else and he threw the Ella away.

Luckily you can buy Ella in stores here.

So I went to the store. Asked for Ella. The girl was looking at me like I was crazy. There were a few women in line. All looking at me like "WTF?".

What matters most is that I got the Ella.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Update of today - Day 2 Ella 5mg:

• Energy levels were good and constant. No energy crashes.
• Less hungry throughout the day. Could go without food longer.
• Libido was low, I am cutting out the copper, l-cysteine, magnesium and potassium and just take Ella 5mg. I think copper was affecting me negatively last three days.
• Slight nervousness/nervous energy throughout day
• Testicles hurt sometimes

That is it.

Hope you're doing good guys. Keep fighting.

I'm going to sleep. Good night.

 

[TubZy]

Update of today - Day 2 Ella 5mg:

• Energy levels were good and constant. No energy crashes.
• Less hungry throughout the day. Could go without food longer.
• Libido was low, I am cutting out the copper, l-cysteine, magnesium and potassium and just take Ella 5mg. I think copper was affecting me negatively last three days.
• Slight nervousness/nervous energy throughout day
• Testicles hurt sometimes

That is it.

Hope you're doing good guys. Keep fighting.

I'm going to sleep. Good night.

You may be better off just dropping everything except the ella until your trial is over to better gauge what is going on.

 

[Niles]

Update of today - Day 2 Ella 5mg:

• Energy levels were good and constant. No energy crashes.
• Less hungry throughout the day. Could go without food longer.
• Libido was low, I am cutting out the copper, l-cysteine, magnesium and potassium and just take Ella 5mg. I think copper was affecting me negatively last three days.
• Slight nervousness/nervous energy throughout day
• Testicles hurt sometimes

That is it.

Hope you're doing good guys. Keep fighting.

I'm going to sleep. Good night.

Was testicle pain a common symptom for you prior to Ella?

 

[RebelWithACause]

Had a good day today guys.

Now I see how much I was living in a fog the past 3 years. Yesterday night it felt like a blanket was removed from my eyes. I saw what damage I had done to myself. I saw how much I lost myself. I lost myself completely. It stings. But it is good to see clearly.

Ella seems to do something for me.

My libido is not the same yet. But I was calm today. Way less anxiety. Good vibe around me. I feel optimistic about the future. I feel more like me. More like the guy I was before finasteride. That is great.

Tomorrow I am going to swim in the freezing sea.

I am going to take a break from the forums and I will update in a few days.

I am only taking Ella 5mg. No other supps.

Never give up.

 

[TubZy]

Had a good day today guys.

Now I see how much I was living in a fog the past 3 years. Yesterday night it felt like a blanket was removed from my eyes. I saw what damage I had done to myself. I saw how much I lost myself. I lost myself completely. It stings. But it is good to see clearly.

Ella seems to do something for me.

My libido is not the same yet. But I was calm today. Way less anxiety. Good vibe around me. I feel optimistic about the future. I feel more like me. More like the guy I was before finasteride. That is great.

Tomorrow I am going to swim in the freezing sea.

I am going to take a break from the forums and I will update in a few days.

I am only taking Ella 5mg. No other supps.

Never give up.

Awesome brother, continue that now like you have started (w/ no supps at all for now on).

 

[bruschi11]

Had a good day today guys.

Now I see how much I was living in a fog the past 3 years. Yesterday night it felt like a blanket was removed from my eyes. I saw what damage I had done to myself. I saw how much I lost myself. I lost myself completely. It stings. But it is good to see clearly.

Ella seems to do something for me.

My libido is not the same yet. But I was calm today. Way less anxiety. Good vibe around me. I feel optimistic about the future. I feel more like me. More like the guy I was before finasteride. That is great.

Tomorrow I am going to swim in the freezing sea.

I am going to take a break from the forums and I will update in a few days.

I am only taking Ella 5mg. No other supps.

Never give up.

Love the cold sea swimming. Lol I’ve been slacking on the cold showers, this will wake me up to get back on!

 

[RebelWithACause]

Hey guys. Hope you are doing well. I have been doing good. The changes have been big.

This is the last day on Ella. I did 5 days in total. 5mg everyday in the morning.

What I have noticed:

• Less neuroticism/negative thoughts/bitchiness/irrational fear: see my life in perspective again, this is the biggest change. I had negative thoughts, anxiety and irritation. This is gone on Ella.
• Less social anxiety and more confidence
• Less brainfog
• Memories came back. I memorise stuff from the past more vividly.
• Sociability, friendlier to people, wanting to socialise and rebuild my social circles
• More motivation to go to the gym and hit the weights
• Falling asleep was harder but I slept fine
• Sometimes a bit fatigued
• Libido not great but higher, I would say 40/100. Sensitivity is better. Not 100%.

I think it can only get better from here. I am curious what will happen next week since I will not take Ella.

I will keep you guys updated.

Let's keep it going.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Love the cold sea swimming. Lol I’ve been slacking on the cold showers, this will wake me up to get back on!

Yea it's awesome. It was too cold to swim though so I just sat in the water haha. It hurt bad. But it felt good afterwards. Cold showers are good too!

 

[MNK99]

Those are very nice results @RebelWithACause
I hope it all sticks man. Your description is very succinct and you seem quite perceptive. I think I noticed a lot of what you mentioned, especially motivation for the gym.
Ella did help social anxiety and help me get into contact with old friends as well. I experienced lessened brain-fog and could understand things better.