Kiwiii's PFS Log

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Hi, so i decide to post my log, and will keep it updated.

Just a brief history :

Before PFS :

Ten years ago i started having Spasmophilia attacks, it is basically a panic attack with tetany, and hyperventilation.
I was prescribed magnesium, and that didn't work, i had attacks everyday. So they put me on Effexor 75 mg per day.

I didn't make blood test, but in every blood i made in this ten years what came back was always high Bicarbonate (veinous) and low potassium

PFS Story :

January last year i took 2 pills of this shit, and crashed for months. The classical, suicidal toughts, depression, panic attacks, diarrea, muscle pain, extreme fatigue, crying spells.

I managed to get a bit better with testogel.

And my bloods showed :

- High Bicarbonate
- Low to normal Potassium
- Low to high Phosphates
- Normal Sodium
- High Progesterone
- High cortisol
- High ACTH
- Low LH, Low FSH, Low T, Low E2
- Normal Thyroid

I made the amino acid test in blood, but nobody knows, my AA are for the most high, i'm waiting for my aldosterone.

So basically, i will start Betaine HCL, Potassium HCL, and Magnesium HCL.

My questions :

- We are in alkalosis, but why ?
- Will this treatement be for life ?
- Will this treatement improve my mental health ?
- What the hell is going on with my aminos ?
 
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Is taking One capsule of Now Betaine HCL with 200mg Mg and 600 mg K per day ok ?

Or should it be improved ?
 
HerrFisch

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Magnesium RDI is ~400mg and Potassium is 4700mg.

But its basically up to you how much etc. And even though I dont really like RDI, I would maybe try to kind of level out potassium and magnesium intake based on RDI.

I use 5g of potassium chloride daily with 1-2g of magnesium chloride.
Thats ~2,5 elemental potassium and probably 55% RDI, 240mg of magnesium which is also around 50-60%.
(So both around 50-60% RDI)

I split it in 1g of potassium chloride with 500mg of magnesium chloride for each meal with 3-5 capsules HCL depending on Protein quantity and quality (free aminos or hydrolized or meat) and drink it in 300ml water.

Maybe start slow and half of that?
 
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Regarding your panic attack and high bicarbonate, probably mattyb could help you better, but

In my opinion you should try to focus on slowly bringing down your CO2. With this your bicarbonate with go down slow as well and will keep your attacks away.
So I would really try to go slow if your problems with your attacks are that bad.

I think you would really profit from electrolyte protocol.
 
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mattyb

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Yeah, you just need to do what Herrfisch described. You could try fasting and/or exercise as well too, to lower bicarb. Otherwise you are a good candidate for electrolyte protocol.
 
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So i upped my Betaine HCL ( Now foods ) to 8 caps a day, and i still don't have burning sensation. Weird no ?

My stool are loose again.

When to test for Bicarbonates ?
 
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Kiwiii said:
So i upped my Betaine HCL ( Now foods ) to 8 caps a day, and i still don't have burning sensation. Weird no ?

My stool are loose again.

When to test for Bicarbonates ?
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I had to take 12 with every meal before I started feeling anything. 8 caps a day isn't that much, especially if you spread them over multiple meals. If you go too high you can get fatigued though, so probably don't do what I did lol.
 
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How long before to get out of alcalosis ?

What is causing alkalosis ?

I checked, and even 6 years ago my bloods showed alkalosis.

Some inputs on my aminos acid test ?

@gbolduev @mattyb
 
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Mixed feeling since a few days, i'm taking 9 caps Betaine HCL, and 2g magnesium with 2g Potassium per day.

I'm exhausted and mildly depressed since 3 days
 
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Kiwiii said:
Mixed feeling since a few days, i'm taking 9 caps Betaine HCL, and 2g magnesium with 2g Potassium per day.

I'm exhausted and mildly depressed since 3 days
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Same here, and quite a few others reporting this as well. It seems most are trying to take all doses down to baseline while adding in NaCl and titrating back up from there. Haven't heard if this has fixed the issue for anyone yet, though. It's been a pain for me getting the doses right, so in the meantime I've just switched to this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075SQV9YR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 until I level out and can adjust doses again.
 
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