Varicose veins/varicoceles/valve insufficiency

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Had no idea where else to put this.

What causes this? Is there any thing that can be done about it.

Why do about a third of older women get varicose veins in the legs and a sixth of young men get varicoceles?
 

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I've also been interested in this. I had a varicocele before PFS, and still after healing from PFS, I still have it.

The urologist I saw when I first came down with PFS (who was just such a great help), told me it was nothing to really worry about, that it's so common nowadays. I guess the only time it could be of much issue is regarding fertility if you're trying to have a child.
 

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I've also been interested in this. I had a varicocele before PFS, and still after healing from PFS, I still have it.

The urologist I saw when I first came down with PFS (who was just such a great help), told me it was nothing to really worry about, that it's so common nowadays. I guess the only time it could be of much issue is regarding fertility if you're trying to have a child.
It can also affect hormones unfortunately.
 

Walker

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It can also affect hormones unfortunately.

That's interesting - I've never had any noticeable issues from the varicocele alone. Are you experiencing any?
 

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I'd be interested in what @Helen has to say about the mechanism behind this in PFS cases, as it's something I'm affected by as well.
 

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I think it has to do with oxidative stress, when you recycle your glutathione correctly it will go away. Hydrogen water will take care of it I think in the long run
 

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Also you need to make sure you have enough Sods b vitamins vitamins C which are also all about glutathione really. Best choice is to take things appropriate to your oxidation type and this will ensure that your oxidation redox system is balanced
 

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I think it has to do with oxidative stress, when you recycle your glutathione correctly it will go away. Hydrogen water will take care of it I think in the long run
That could make sense.

Do you think copper/zinc ratio in teens could cause varicoceles since copper is pro-free radical and zinc protects against free radicals?

Excess copper could also cause excess estrogen (which I believe has been found in women with varicose veins), which would also cause oxidative stress.
 

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That could make sense.

Do you think copper/zinc ratio in teens could cause varicoceles since copper is pro-free radical and zinc protects against free radicals?

Excess copper could also cause excess estrogen (which I believe has been found in women with varicose veins), which would also cause oxidative stress.


Copper is a part of SOD same as zinc , also there is histidine and aspartic acid. Also manganese . usually if you have high copper, that can activate SODs too much, SODS make hydrogen peroxide, so if you have too much copper, means too much SOD activation, and high hydrogen peroxide, and this hydrogen peroxide can make hydroxyl radicals, which damage all kinds of proteins. Hydrogen in hydrogen water will bind hydroxyl radicals and get rid of all it.
 
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Copper is a part of SOD same as zinc , also there is histidine and aspartic acid. Also manganese . usually if you have high copper, that can activate SODs too much, SODS make hydrogen peroxide, so if you have too much copper, means too much SOD activation, and high hydrogen peroxide, and this hydrogen peroxide can make hydroxyl radicals, which damage all kinds of proteins. Hydrogen in hydrogen water will bind hydroxyl radicals and get rid of all it.
So it is possible to have too much sod activity ? I thought when there is too much oxidative stress (like when there is too much copper) body shuts down SOD in order to not overload the body with further oxidative stress
 

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So it is possible to have too much sod activity ? I thought when there is too much oxidative stress (like when there is too much copper) body shuts down SOD in order to not overload the body with further oxidative stress

No, if there is too much oxidative sugar stress, the the body has to use SODS to protect against superoxide, but that creates tons of hydrogen peroxide, and if enzymes which break down hydrogen peroxide fail, then the body has to close down sugar metabolism completely. So there is less superoxide creation.

This is why hydrogen water by scavenging superoxide, basically allows sugar metabolism to open back up and kills cancer for example.
 

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No, if there is too much oxidative sugar stress, the the body has to use SODS to protect against superoxide, but that creates tons of hydrogen peroxide, and if enzymes which break down hydrogen peroxide fail, then the body has to close down sugar metabolism completely. So there is less superoxide creation.

This is why hydrogen water by scavenging superoxide, basically allows sugar metabolism to open back up and kills cancer for example.
Hello Hellen, hope you are fine.
I know this is not a smart question since it has already been discussed, but I am interested to buy an hydrogen water machine.
Do you reccomand it to everyone or, just for the slow oxidator type?
 

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Hello Hellen, hope you are fine.
I know this is not a smart question since it has already been discussed, but I am interested to buy an hydrogen water machine.
Do you reccomand it to everyone or, just for the slow oxidator type?

You can just try to make hydrogen water cheaply, and if it fits you , then use it and buy an expensive well crafted machine. I have seen both do good on hydrogen water , fast and slow oxidizers.

It is too little data on it still. So I wish I had that definite answer for you. My advice is to try something cheap. You can always buy high rich hydrogen machine. It is 200 dollars and it is very good. so not that much money. I have an expensive 2k machine. dont buy an expensive machine since you dont know how you will react and if it would fit you.

Best thing to do is probably to try to make hydrogen using @Yura method. Contact him and he will help you. this way you can test out if this is for you for almost nothing
 

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You can just try to make hydrogen water cheaply, and if it fits you , then use it and buy an expensive well crafted machine. I have seen both do good on hydrogen water , fast and slow oxidizers.

It is too little data on it still. So I wish I had that definite answer for you. My advice is to try something cheap. You can always buy high rich hydrogen machine. It is 200 dollars and it is very good. so not that much money. I have an expensive 2k machine. dont buy an expensive machine since you dont know how you will react and if it would fit you.

Best thing to do is probably to try to make hydrogen using @Yura method. Contact him and he will help you. this way you can test out if this is for you for almost nothing
Cool, thank you.
By the way I read Bruschi saying he lost his libido by drinking hydrogen water.
I am at a point where I do not want to have this happening to me, I am then wondering if it worth to try it or not cause if it doen't fit me, I will drop libido even more.
 

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Cool, thank you.
By the way I read Bruschi saying he lost his libido by drinking hydrogen water.
I am at a point where I do not want to have this happening to me, I am then wondering if it worth to try it or not cause if it doen't fit me, I will drop libido even more.. and that would be really sucking.
 

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i read that copper and calcium deficiency can cause varicose veins(see pregnant women. those women who drink plenty of RAW milk never develop vein problems)... topical application of HCL diluted to 1:500 or 1:250 might heal it... (33 drops of 10% HCL in 236ml distilled water makes 1:500 dilution, to make stronger at 1:250, double the amount of drops in the same amount of distilled water)
I think one case of varicose veins are a result of metabolic acidosis. Body tries to buffer venous blood with lots of calcium and this calcium clogs up the veins. Therefore those people have calcium deficiency, yes (I'm one of those cases - very low calcium on hair test and some varicose veins on legs). That's why many people use vitamin d3, vitamin k2, ... etc to cure/clean there veins. Never heard of using HCL for this, but it will probably decalcify the veins also - short-term. I can feel it immediately if I take a lot of calcium like lots of milk or especially some supplements (so without natural cofactors) like calcium citrate my varicose veins get worse. Also oxidative stress plays a huge role in weaking the veins walls. If I take a lot of sugar I can feel my veins immediately. As helen (you guys really have a sense of humour... great choice of pic and name LMAO) said cure is only possible if we get out of pH inbalance (less calcium in veins) and restore anti-oxidative systems (pretty sure it is a glutathione problem in my case).
 

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No, if there is too much oxidative sugar stress, the the body has to use SODS to protect against superoxide, but that creates tons of hydrogen peroxide, and if enzymes which break down hydrogen peroxide fail, then the body has to close down sugar metabolism completely. So there is less superoxide creation.

This is why hydrogen water by scavenging superoxide, basically allows sugar metabolism to open back up and kills cancer for example.
So what exactly is responsible for the weakening of veins the causes them to become varicose, do you know?

Is oxidative stress weakening the inner lining of the veins? Is it some sort of mineral thing, or both?
 

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So what exactly is responsible for the weakening of veins the causes them to become varicose, do you know?

Is oxidative stress weakening the inner lining of the veins? Is it some sort of mineral thing, or both?


I assume it is hydroxyl radicals damaging the protein structure. and membranes.
 

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I read somewhere that veins in the testicles dont really have valves, and that a most likely cause for varicose veins is pelvic floor disfunction.
I actually have varicose veins that come and go here and there, what ive noticed is that excessive heat on testicles makes the veins over time enlarge and become like worms.