Hair test result

[LizzieRo]

Hi everyone,
I am trying to work out some good actions to take in relation to diet, possible supplementation, and whether a breuss style fast would be appropriate for me. I have had the Trace Elements hair test and my result is 'FAST 4'. I would love to hear people's opinions on whether the Trace Element recommendations given below would be a good place to start. I am female 34y/o, with fatigue, cognitive/memory problems, and allergy type symptoms. I have a history of Accutane treatment during teens. I am struggling to make sense of it all and would appreciate any thoughts.
Thanks all, Lizzie

 

[Orion]

Since you are 4 lows and Fast 4, fasting should not be needed, until maybe you get your health in positive state. What is your height and weight?

If you can afford the packs, I would start them along with fast oxidizer diet(calcium and copper). If not you can look the the minerals in the packs, and purchase them and take the amounts X times per day in their pack recs.

Do you still have skin issues?

 

[HerrFisch]

How much protein do you get a day?

 

[LizzieRo]

Thanks @Orion and @HerrFisch. I am 5'6 height and weighing 60kg. I don't still have the skin issues, the spots and acnes were solved after second course of Isotretinoin during teens, but my skin is not ideal in that it can tendency towards oily and sometimes dryness. I do not know how much protein I eat daily, would you suggest to aim for a specific amount? I have always gone by appetite, but little meat, more fish, eggs, dairy (milk, cheeses, yogurts) daily. I notice my symptoms are much better the less I eat, I am not sure why.

 

[aztec]

@LizzieRo do you experience chronic stress? I am also a Fast 4 which is indicative of adrenal burnout and kidneys not signaling efficiently due to high stress. I had my hair test last year during a highly stressful time of chronic stress. Please share more about your personal journey so other can help out.

 

[LizzieRo]

@LizzieRo do you experience chronic stress? I am also a Fast 4 which is indicative of adrenal burnout and kidneys not signaling efficiently due to high stress. I had my hair test last year during a highly stressful time of chronic stress. Please share more about your personal journey so other can help out.

@aztec yes absolutely, I have a tendency towards stress, and lots of nervous energy as a kid. I went into quite a stressful job after graduating, but quit that several years ago because I could feel it wasn't helping my case, and now only work part-time, but still somewhat stressful environment. Something significant seemed to be I had an operation in my mid twenties on a broken foot, and I know this was not a precise starting place but for sure my health went downhill due to the incapacity and even though the bone was fully healed I could never get back to the same level of activity for some reason due to such dropped energy levels. I did a lot of running and I was a dancer, prior to that, but could never really cope with it at the same level again as once was.

 

[aztec]

@LizzieRo that makes a lot of sense ans a fast 4 metabolic rate reveals we are sympathetic nervous system dominant which takes a toll on the body. Prayer, meditation, and mindfulness breathing is vital to help reverse this and slow the body down. I am currently working on this and it is yielding good results. Stress burns out the central nervous system rapidly and drains all organs of vital energy and function. I will do a hair test next week and I am curious if my rate has changed since December 2017.

 

[LizzieRo]

@aztec yes I can know the flight or fight mode easily, which I think is sympathetic nervous system dominant type? Have you also been following the recommended fast oxidizer diet and supplementation approach since your December test?

 

[Aleksandr]

@Helen what do you think would cause phosphorous to be so high in this case?

@LizzieRo do you eat enough calories for your height and weight? Been stressed lately? Drink a lot of coffee or alcohol? These things can use up minerals fast. Checking cos it looks like ur in 3 almost 4 lows

 

[LizzieRo]

@m_arch I think depending on the day between 1800 and 2000 calories, so I think 'normal' what do you think? I find I feel better if I eat less I do not know why. Yes I think 'stressed' is my normal mode, but no more lately than usual. I drink rarely coffee or alcohol (both do not suit me very well, coffee in the a.m will still cause restless sleep, alcohol makes me feel quite unwell), but I do drink caffeinated teas, around three daily. Thank you for considering my results.

 

[aztec]

@LizzieRo yes, sympathetic nervous system activates the fight or flight response. Please check out the book “Why Zebras get Ulcers” by Robert Sapolsky so you can gain a new understainding of stress. It is a poweful book and eye opening. A buddy/colleague of mine is a talented clinical psychologist and suggested it.

 

[supernature]

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[Aleksandr]

@m_arch I think depending on the day between 1800 and 2000 calories, so I think 'normal' what do you think? I find I feel better if I eat less I do not know why. Yes I think 'stressed' is my normal mode, but no more lately than usual. I drink rarely coffee or alcohol (both do not suit me very well, coffee in the a.m will still cause restless sleep, alcohol makes me feel quite unwell), but I do drink caffeinated teas, around three daily. Thank you for considering my results.

theres a website called 'cronometer' that i and a few others use. you plug your height and weight and activity level in and it tells you how many calories you need to maintain your current weight.

stress hampers digestion which will cause lower minerals in general. "no more lately than usual" probably means you've had a similar hair test for a while. i think the tea might cause some mineral losses too


so i think some general tips:
eat more
stress less
drink less tea

obviously some of these can't be easily followed lol, but anyway... what did the hair test supplements recommend?


BTW do you supplement vitamin A? I also went on accutane as a teenager for acne, 3 seperate times. Theres a guy who has a blog saying he thinks post adults (the older the worse it is) have toxic levels of vitamin A, and past accutane users are very likely to be at full liver capacity for it already too. I'm going to do some liver flushes soon, to see if that helps with my dry eyes (never went away from accutane 10yrs ago).

 

[LizzieRo]

@aztec thank you! I made a note of this book one time ago, you have reminded me, I will definitely check it out. Are many people here sharing the same philosophy that stress may be most significant to this kind of mineral imbalances?

@supernature thank you for your input. This is something that has recently confused me whilst reading the forum, the possible ARL/TEI discrepancy - but I only found this forum after already had my Trace Element test. Could you expand further, or point me to where this is being most discussed? Thank you.

@m_arch thank you. no I do not supplement vitamin A, I do not use any supplement other than sometimes vitamin D, I work in the UK and think this may be wise but am unsure. The recommendations were Sym-pack (metabolic support), Adrenal Complex (glandular support), Min-plex B (magnesium + chromium + B6), Copper Plus, Digest V-Zyme, Vitamin E Plus. Have you followed either ARL or TE protocol?

That is sad about the lasting dryness to your eyes, I remember it well, for me it was fine shortly after stopping usage of the drug, but recently I have felt the need to eyedrops I don't know for what reason. It is in combination with a general feeling of being less well, and why I was looking for something (all standard doctor tests being normal, over years and again). Do you strongly regret using the drug? You will do the Andreas Moritz style?

 

[aztec]

@LizzieRo yes, chronic stress throws everything off balance. @Helen wrote about it in the electrolyte thread for improved health.

 

[Aleksandr]

@aztec thank you! I made a note of this book one time ago, you have reminded me, I will definitely check it out. Are many people here sharing the same philosophy that stress may be most significant to this kind of mineral imbalances?

@supernature thank you for your input. This is something that has recently confused me whilst reading the forum, the possible ARL/TEI discrepancy - but I only found this forum after already had my Trace Element test. Could you expand further, or point me to where this is being most discussed? Thank you.

@m_arch thank you. no I do not supplement vitamin A, I do not use any supplement other than sometimes vitamin D, I work in the UK and think this may be wise but am unsure. The recommendations were Sym-pack (metabolic support), Adrenal Complex (glandular support), Min-plex B (magnesium + chromium + B6), Copper Plus, Digest V-Zyme, Vitamin E Plus. Have you followed either ARL or TE protocol?

That is sad about the lasting dryness to your eyes, I remember it well, for me it was fine shortly after stopping usage of the drug, but recently I have felt the need to eyedrops I don't know for what reason. It is in combination with a general feeling of being less well, and why I was looking for something (all standard doctor tests being normal, over years and again). Do you strongly regret using the drug? You will do the Andreas Moritz style?

I dont know if i strongly regret using it. I was pretty depressed with all that acne, and it made it go away. I wish i had of known about other things like i do now though. My diet was absolute trash and i was consuming a lot of milk, which im intolerant to and causes acne fo me even now (and i have none normally).

If i could go back in time I'd order a hair test and eat better! Its hard tho cos my mum was buying all the food. She didnt cook so we mostly had microwave meals, and neither of us knew anything about nutrition. We went to the doctor and the standard reply was "what you eat has no effect on acne. We dont know what causes it"
Aside from the dry eyes my symptoms have been mild, mostly fatigue, so i guess i was lucky.

Do you regret taking it?

Yes i plan to do the andreas moritz one. I'm going to do it the same way @Orion has been. He's had some success lately too (he also suffers from oily skin)

 

[LizzieRo]

@m_arch Yes I do, but similarly it solved what was seemed to be my biggest concern in life back then. I would do things differently if I could do over again. I for sure try to persuade against any of my friends considering it.

 

[LizzieRo]

Also @m_arch I have tried looking through the forum but cannot find, maybe you know. Has anybody any experience with the nail mineral analysis? For example like this place: 3. Nail mineral analysis – 26 minerals and 15 heavy metals | Hair Mineral Analysis UK they also do the ARL hair. I don't know where to post this question best. I wonder if this is a viable option for those with color/chemical treated hair?

 

[supernature]

@supernature thank you for your input. This is something that has recently confused me whilst reading the forum, the possible ARL/TEI discrepancy - but I only found this forum after already had my Trace Element test. Could you expand further, or point me to where this is being most discussed? Thank you.

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[Orion]

I dont know if i strongly regret using it. I was pretty depressed with all that acne, and it made it go away. I wish i had of known about other things like i do now though. My diet was absolute trash and i was consuming a lot of milk, which im intolerant to and causes acne fo me even now (and i have none normally).

If i could go back in time I'd order a hair test and eat better! Its hard tho cos my mum was buying all the food. She didnt cook so we mostly had microwave meals, and neither of us knew anything about nutrition. We went to the doctor and the standard reply was "what you eat has no effect on acne. We dont know what causes it"
Aside from the dry eyes my symptoms have been mild, mostly fatigue, so i guess i was lucky.

Do you regret taking it?

Yes i plan to do the andreas moritz one. I'm going to do it the same way @Orion has been. He's had some success lately too (he also suffers from oily skin)

Doing liver flush 9 this Friday, they are definitely incrementally adding up, health continues to improve.

Not sure what is helping the most, but only getting positive outcomes from the following:
hairtest recs(slow oxidizer diet and rec'd minerals)
liver flushes
H2 water
adding bile acids to the HCl/electrolyte protocol