Protocols

[sanka]

Hi guys how are you. I have been reading the forum and im trying to see the best protocols. So far i can say that nitric oxide protocol, potassium loading, nadph precursors, hydrogen water, this may help us? Also anavar looks like a good choice. I have a bad acne, fatigue ( i cant get out of bed at morning, this is my worst symptom right now) , seborreic dermatitis. If someone can help me with this or where i can start i will be very gratefull. Thanks

 

[TubZy]

yeah there will most likely be an summary update soon of the stuff, hard to say right now things are still on going. ARL/TEI or electrolytes protocol are the safest right now. If you want to try nitric oxide protocol that is pretty safe too.

 

[Niles]

How's your diet? I know of some folks who got cured of all the symptoms you list by going on an anti-inflammatory diet and supporting gut with probiotics.

 

[sanka]

I really dont have a diet right now, i have been in diet for like 8 months and i feel horrible, i cant digest proteins it gives me like diarrea. Also i cant grow any hair in body, at the beggining, that was not a problem, but now i really hate that, i looo like a 17 child and im starting to work as a dentist and most people dont trust in me most of all because i looo very young, i know it sounds stupid but is like that, if there is something tht can help me with this.

 

[Helen]

How's your diet? I know of some folks who got cured of all the symptoms you list by going on an anti-inflammatory diet and supporting gut with probiotics.

this just lowers lactic acid levels. We implemented this on POIS forums , this helps only people with very high lactic acid levels, and it never lasts

What we did was load on bifido only probiotics, which lowered lactic acid levels, pushed potassium back into the cell, and took a little pressure of progesterone


The problem with PFS POIS people is the actual crash after orgasm. People dont realize that it brings all the symptoms. And all the diets, or this or that, just little stilts to control it.


People can look at POISCENTER.com. this is s forum basically for PFS. and POIS. all the protocols not to have POIS are there. in PROTOCOL section.

Probiotics, gluten free diet, niacin , IDO inhibitors, testoserone cycling etc. None of this stuff cured it. but it helps to control POIS.

 

[MNK99]

-It's ok man, results will take time. Looking young isn't the end of the world - people feel that way about like EVERYONE freshly out of med, dental, etc school. @sanka.
-Really it's "imposter's syndrome" or feeling like not belonging there. Restoring DHT or whatever, and androgenicness and also balance --> will fix it.

-DOPAMINE more @SANAKA and also: SEROTONIN - FAR AND AWAY ISN'T THE HAPPY NERUOTRANSMITTER, I BELEIVE. AREA knows a TON about this.
-SEROTONIN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THINGS SURE.

-I HAD PSSD, and also (mania) from EFFEXOR XR -- FOR depression/anxiety... it was pretty messed up to say the least. DOPAMINE --> WORKS 1000x better for me.
-Even so, that is not to suggest that a "chemical solution" exists to this spiritual/existential crisis (iatrogenic illness/ post-drug disorder).
-i.e. no clear precise biochemically targeted application will cure it immediately.

-Maybe T and DHT effects also, mood regulation and confidence, ambition, etc. --- edit: MAYBE T + PROGESTERONE, like Helen says. I keep forgetting that.

 

[sanka]

Ye i know obviously is not just that but imagine, i look much younger, with acne, im sonfucking tired all the time, i really dont enjoy nothing, is like nothing makes me happy so i dont like being at my work. All this dont help in the pacients to trust me. Also the part i dont enjoy nothing, that can be serotonin?

 

[Helen]

Ye i know obviously is not just that but imagine, i look much younger, with acne, im sonfucking tired all the time, i really dont enjoy nothing, is like nothing makes me happy so i dont like being at my work. All this dont help in the pacients to trust me. Also the part i dont enjoy nothing, that can be serotonin?

just go on testosterone with progesterone. or wait till we finish anavar testing.

Also you can go on TEI. and stay only on it.


Some people have less body hair. No idea why you need that.

Usually people should have higher testosterone levels than DHT. With aging it goes the opposite, DHT goes higher than testosterone= thus you get hairloss and aging.

Real strong people have little hair on their bodies. Like Blacks for instance. they have higher testosterone than DHT levels.

Italians have high higher DHT than testosterone. thus get stomachs and hairy. and age very fast.

In a healthy body DHT should be always normal and never high. high DHT= aging and hairloss since DHT releases aldosterone which wastes potassium

 

[sanka]

Both orally or have to be injectable? In my country i cant find a shit but i will try

 

[Helen]

Both orally or have to be injectable? In my country i cant find a shit but i will try

you can try 100mg a week of test Enanthate and 5 mg of progesterone cream daily. This is a regular TRT .


But this is just guessing , since I had no idea what your body chemistry is.

It is best to go on TEI for you and stay on it. since hormonal routes are just substitution.

 

[sanka]

Thanks helen! I think i can find that. For how long i do this?

 

[Helen]

Thanks helen! I think i can find that. For how long i do this?

FOREVER lol

you can also add HCG 500, once a week. So your balls never shrink.

 

[MNK99]

wtf/ safe foreverz maybe you'ze sayingz?

 

[sanka]

And trying with anavar is the same? Im very scared with the injection and i really never do it before haha

 

[Helen]

And trying with anavar is the same? Im very scared with the injection and i really never do it before haha

Anavar we are just testing now.

there is nothing to be scared about injection it is SUB Q injection.

you can take testosterone sublingual mixed with OIL. read about it online, you dont even have to inject it.


also you can take PINE POLLEN tincture , and add tiny amounts of progesterone.


WTF, you are a dentist and you are scared of injections LOL I thought you inject shit into the gum daily ))

 

[MNK99]

-If someone does SUBQ can they just trial and error till they get it right?
-JUST SHOOT IT AND STARE RITE AT IT RITE? PPL always said I'm clumsy, so it trips me out. I can shave with a knife tho, so prolly can do this.

-OH it's just like an epi pen rite? JUST Lightly inject with some force, AN AREA ON THIS DIAGRAM?

Subcutaneous Injection: Definition and Patient Education

-It's easy. HS said thigh like 5mo ago or so. IIRC. Shoulder is fine too. MYB he said that.

 

[Admiral]

Is T + Prog your favorite protocol to get us out of this hell hole, now @Helen? That is with anavar still uncertain and ARL/TEI only getting us gentle results it seems..

 

[Helen]

Is T + Prog your favorite protocol to get us out of this hell hole, now @Helen? That is with anavar still uncertain and ARL/TEI only getting us gentle results it seems..

NO it is not, this person cant do anything else

this protocol does nothing but substitute problematic places we dont know if it works or not. It never worked for anyone yet.

TEi fixes things, so you dont have to take anything later.



Stop looking into hormones, you already tried them all. Did they work for you - NO. go on TEI

He was looking for the body hair, that is why I suggested this.

 

[HerrFisch]

Real strong people have little hair on their bodies. Like Blacks for instance. they have higher testosterone than DHT levels.

But how does one stay in that state of higher testosterone than DHT ?

Improve DHT to metabolites conv. or lower Test to DHT ?

 

[MNK99]

-What do you mean they can't do "anything" else? Due to location or...?

for me fuck it. TEI --> ILL GET JACKED ANYWAYS. Not quite like african americans but still.
im strong but must be stronger for prison to ward off aggressors. fml.

ill befriend afro americans in prison, no homo. to be safe.