Effective Weight Loss with PFS

[Continuous Heal]

What diets or approaches have you guys taken to combat weight gain while dealing with PFS?

I seem to continue to struggle with liver / pancreas issues (given digestive issues and yellow stools), as well as spiked cholesterol levels, and a sense that I have thick blood.

I have been doing a keto type diet for the last 3 days or so, and have had a crash in my libido / sexual function for the first time in months since starting with TEI, so I am thinking the low carb thing may not be working for me.

 

[TubZy]

Sprints and just eating a diet similar to okinawa

 

[RebelWithACause]

Depends if you are fast oxidizer/slow oxidizer IMO. Even that is too simple distinction.

For me calcium food like dairy + high fat + meat and some carbohydrates keeps me most satisfied. When I eat too much fruit I don't feel well (nervous, irritated, want to punch a wall) and I keep eating small things A.K.A. grazing. I just started following the diet TEI outlined to a T from today on.

If you are slow oxidizer do intermittent fasting with at the end of the day a big carbohydrate + protein meal not too high fat. Never tried this but I think this could work where you also don't feel terrible while dieting. Why IF? Because Slow Oxidizer can handle longer periods without food (fasting) and it will give you energy on it's own. Then at the end of the day you eat a meal of around 2000-2500 calories.

For fast oxidizer I would say eat enough fat with every meal just cut down on the amount you eat in total.

 

[Continuous Heal]

Depends if you are fast oxidizer/slow oxidizer IMO. Even that is too simple distinction.

For me calcium food like dairy + high fat + meat and some carbohydrates keeps me most satisfied. When I eat too much fruit I don't feel well (nervous, irritated, want to punch a wall) and I keep eating small things A.K.A. grazing. I just started following the diet TEI outlined to a T from today on.

If you are slow oxidizer do intermittent fasting with at the end of the day a big carbohydrate + protein meal not too high fat. Never tried this but I think this could work where you also don't feel terrible while dieting. Why IF? Because Slow Oxidizer can handle longer periods without food (fasting) and it will give you energy on it's own. Then at the end of the day you eat a meal of around 2000-2500 calories.

For fast oxidizer I would say eat enough fat with every meal just cut down on the amount you eat in total.

TEI says I'm a fast 4. I think I may stick to their dietary recs, as this certainly didn't make me feel very good.

The high cholesterol thing is concerning to me though, as its relatively new, and I don't understand what brought it on.

 

[RebelWithACause]

TEI says I'm a fast 4. I think I may stick to their dietary recs, as this certainly didn't make me feel very good.

The high cholesterol thing is concerning to me though, as its relatively new, and I don't understand what brought it on.

Not sure how bad high cholesterol is. They did study on oldest (90+) Japanese people in caretaker house and they all had higher cholesterol. Maybe lower some of the cholesterol foods. If you feel like shit then I would try something different.

 

[MNK99]

LDL vs HDL distinction supposedly is important. AND also, organic, proper - grass fed cows and livestock... NOT corn and grain fed (sloppy, gross, fat, malelovent, disgusting cows).

gained fat... lost - fasting and working out like crazy, and RANDRO/4andro helped fix dht estrogen ratios... and water retention was probably 5-10lb but probably was stronger I mean i was jacked as fuck (for me) on randro and 4andro, but probably better to be natural and a bit smaller and... not overtraining/ needing drugs.

Maybe 90-93% strength. So 40-70dips instead of 98 like it's nothing /. need to take it easy tho/ can;t remain active breaking/ snapping myself up. altho i say this all the time/ so ive forced self to lift light. --anyways i literally had maybe 20 lb of toxins, fat, water... now like 0 extra maybe 3lb at times.... I mean EXTRA to what i did. Often look very lean, other times very in shape, but eating very regimented/ usually the same. WHEREAS I think FEB - JUNE was like... ripped / then water retention / then very good / then water retention again ---> all correlated with digestion changes. KIND of pissed me off, but not like say 6mo of last yr; also when bigger in bodyfat; literally had other stuff to worry about like cleansing first and foremost.

 

[Continuous Heal]

I'm in a very strange place right now exercise wise. I largely only do resistance training, but it is almost as if my bar for healthy training is really low.

For instance, yesterday I began the morning with a rather intense weightlifting session. I could feel a cortisol type spike with a bit more of a racing heart and my scalp being itchy during the workout. For the rest of the day after I felt brain fog and very lethargic (not how I used to feel after lifting). I got home from work 9 hours later and had a 3 hour nap and woke up with a headache. This has been a consistent pattern for a long time now.

Even on weekends, I will work out, come home tired and will have greasy skin that seems to be brought on by the activity, while feeling lethargic for the rest of the day.

Stacking on top of this is a very stiff muscle feeling. I will regularly get cramps in my arms after any amount of lifting, and my joints and muscles will be stiffer and crack more often. Interestingly this all seems to be brought on by lifting, and isn't the case in the days following.

I have been thinking about supplementing magnesium, as a lot of the above sounds related to me, but it must be more complex than this. Also I have been wanting to give TEI a chance with as little interference as I can.

TEI seems to be impacting this too, almost as if its happening more intensely and predictably after workouts. My dutch test (posted in the tests section) showed low cortisol (with high conversion), and low test. I'm sure this must be related.

 

[Helen]

you are 4 lows, you have to take it easy.

IN your body chemistry you will have POIS from exercise, from drinking water in the morning after sleeping

Are you following the diet?

 

[Continuous Heal]

you are 4 lows, you have to take it easy.

IN your body chemistry you will have POIS from exercise, from drinking water in the morning after sleeping

Are you following the diet?

Is this a good source for reading about 4 lows? My hair test was Fast 4.
THE FOUR-LOW ELECTROLYTES PATTERN
My test:
https://hackstasis.com/threads/cont...test-now-featuring-hair-test.1000/#post-42189

Just read the description of POIS, and it sounds very accurate for what I've been experiencing. Are you saying I also shouldn't drink water in the morning? In addition maybe less weight training across the board... Less cardio too?

I'm a bit over 2 months into my TEI treatment, and getting much more strict on the diet. I have been following it loosely, but only recently cutting back sugar as strictly as I likely should have.

 

[Continuous Heal]

you are 4 lows, you have to take it easy.

IN your body chemistry you will have POIS from exercise, from drinking water in the morning after sleeping

Are you following the diet?

This thread still has my head spinning. I have been feeling a weird reaction to weight training for a long time now, but kept going. Since this discussion, I haven't gone, and I haven't had that kind of crash. I would really rather not stop weight training entirely, but this scared me off. How can I make it more tolerable on my body?

 

[RebelWithACause]

This thread still has my head spinning. I have been feeling a weird reaction to weight training for a long time now, but kept going. Since this discussion, I haven't gone, and I haven't had that kind of crash. I would really rather not stop weight training entirely, but this scared me off. How can I make it more tolerable on my body?

Train light for 2 months. Instead of deload week you do deload month x2. Train with 60-70% of the weight you max out on. Focus on form. Not too much volume. Not too long (30 minutes) 3 times a week. Get good sleep/rest + enough calories.

I am similar although not as bad I think. When I train too heavy I get very tired rest of the day and sometimes even depressed. When I train medium(not too light, heavy or too long) I feel good and it actually improves mental. Deadlift 1 rep max for example makes me tired for at least 2-3 days. I don't max out at all anymore.

I have bad habit of lifting too heavy and too much. I remember going to the gym 5-6 days a week and hitting close to maxes 3-4 days out of that. It is not healthy and counterproductive. Especially if you are already in compromised position.

 

[MNK99]

I have bad habit of lifting too heavy and too much. I remember going to the gym 5-6 days a week and hitting close to maxes 3-4 days out of that. It is not healthy and counterproductive. Especially if you are already in compromised position.

I do this too. I think when I'm in there, can't really help it. SO sometimes just gotta not go. And just walk instead. It's addictive, and also helps destress, but breaking/ injuring something else, helps no one. Can just lift light but then that turns into many reps. I don't know. Lifting a lot less reps but still quite a bit. And realistically, I can gain and lose several pounds quickly (last couple may be pretty hard but will take longer). And also basically taking 3 weeks off or more, probably look nearly the same but weigh less.... so perhaps replace it. Like that guy, kept saying.

It's like anything... just addictive nature. Go take care of some bs... since, I want to save money and am far away, walk half there, or walk there then come back in uber...
--and you think it will be 30mins, but then walk somewhere else and it's like 60mins. So sometimes, being lazier and doing nothing is key. For recovery.

 

[Continuous Heal]

I just did my first weight training since my last post. I purposely kept it light, and shorter than normal. I finished about an hour ago, and still feel a light headache, and drowsiness. I have been dealing with this for a while without really understanding it, but it concerns me that I'm so sensitive.

I'm almost through my first TEI treatment, and it only seems worse / more sensitive. Maybe though this is possibly due to recovering?

Based on the four lows link I posted above, I wasn't technically four lows when I started the treatment, though I was close (Calcium was above the range, 55 vs the link saying <40mg%, Mg 6.5 vs <6, with Na and K well under). However this comment is interesting as maybe this is part of the recovery:

"At times, on a retest a four lows pattern will become an even lower four lows pattern. This means that the one or more of the macromineral levels (calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium) will decline further on a retest. We call this digging deeper pattern. It indicates that a person is delving more deeply into traumas or other blockages that caused or contributed to the four lows pattern. This is not a problem at all. It usually resolves on its own on the next hair tissue mineral retest."

 

[RebelWithACause]

I just did my first weight training since my last post. I purposely kept it light, and shorter than normal. I finished about an hour ago, and still feel a light headache, and drowsiness. I have been dealing with this for a while without really understanding it, but it concerns me that I'm so sensitive.

I'm almost through my first TEI treatment, and it only seems worse / more sensitive. Maybe though this is possible due to recovering?

Based on the four lows link I posted above, I wasn't technically four lows when I started the treatment. However this comment is interesting as maybe this is part of the recovery:

"At times, on a retest a four lows pattern will become an even lower four lows pattern. This means that the one or more of the macromineral levels (calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium) will decline further on a retest. We call this digging deeper pattern. It indicates that a person is delving more deeply into traumas or other blockages that caused or contributed to the four lows pattern. This is not a problem at all. It usually resolves on its own on the next hair tissue mineral retest."

Yes you can feel worse. When you are done take a break 2-4 weeks and see if you feel better/higher baseline.

 

[Continuous Heal]

I had some gum graft surgery yesterday to deal with some gum recession. Makes me wonder if the bone loss is connected to PFS.

Either way, following surgery, they gave me 3 days of dexamethasone. I was basically awake all night last night and had a very similar feeling today that I have mentioned above in following a workout.

I believe anything spiking my cortisol is making me very tired and drowsy, which is why I may have had good results with phosphatidylserine.

I also think this connects to my dutch test, showing low cortisol and high conversion. Any thoughts?

https://hackstasis.com/threads/cont...d-up-dutch-test-now-featuring-hair-test.1000/

 

[Continuous Heal]

I have been going easy on workouts, and abridged, light weights seem to be ok, or at least give me a relatively mild form of whatever is happening to me.

Yesterday, I tried just 30 minutes light cardio on the exercise bike, and managed to give myself this reaction. I guess it is POIS.

Not sure what to do with this situation, but will be sending in my next hair sample this week, and hope TEI gets me out of this mess.