Something to Consider to Expedite Healing

[lakehouse]

Hey guys, I'm still on CDSnuts protocol just like many of you guys, but something has come up in my mind regardless of how many of you may take it.

Here are some objective points about all of us in regards to this condition:
- there is no scientific data on this disease.
- we cannot prove that someone is 100% cured. I am not saying people aren't cured, because theres dozens of stories of people going back to their lives and putting this in the past, but how do we know something sinister isn't still going on at a molecular level?
- some people take FOREVER, and expediting this process is not negative.

Thoughts:

We may not like some of the guys at propeciahelp, but I can't help but not agree that at this point, we should get more scientific in order to refine this healing process. Maybe many of us won't need it, but it will definitely help many more. We have to think like a team that works together. Even if you are healing up, you have to help your fallen comrades. Leave no one behind.

The boys at PH are doing a genetic test, and it would really help if we can all pitch in data points by ordering a 23&me test.

Please consider it, we all have to mobilize together to beat this more efficiently, because without a doubt it would help some of the slow healers.

 

[Slayo]

Everyone wirh pfs should do organic acid test, dutch test and hair test, immo 23andme is bs, the tests I indicated are the cheapest one and they are very broad spectrum, if everyone would do them, we would have tremendous amount of data

 

[lakehouse]

Everyone wirh pfs should do organic acid test, dutch test and hair test, immo 23andme is bs, the tests I indicated are the cheapest one and they are very broad spectrum, if everyone would do them, we would have tremendous amount of data

yeah that's the point, ph guys are using high powered software to analyze.

Also, the theory is the problem is regarding epigenetics, so in order to get the most precise data, they have chosen to use genetic testing.

respect this thesis, and lets contribute

 

[MNK99]

YA BUT THEY STRAIGHT PARANOID, SON. THEY ON THAT SHYT. EVERY 4mins looking out the window like WHAT?!

 

[lakehouse]

YA BUT THEY STRAIGHT PARANOID, SON. THEY ON THAT SHYT. EVERY 4mins looking out the window like WHAT?!

not all, just some guys. most of the dudes that put in work come to check messages like once every 1 or 2 days

 

[MNK99]

Well strong statistical data doesn't lie. So you got me there bro. I was kidding. Scientific method should prevail long term... Ideally. I hear you fellows.

 

[diffi]

Everyone wirh pfs should do organic acid test, dutch test and hair test, immo 23andme is bs, the tests I indicated are the cheapest one and they are very broad spectrum, if everyone would do them, we would have tremendous amount of data

23andme cannot test all possible factors, is very limitated. Its kinda strange they ASK you if you took fin when ordering.
Some guys think they will use crispr one day. Really? Ppl are dreaming.

In my eyes, all the symptoms we are facing, are just the surface: immune reactions, upregulated AR, gut issues, receptor issues (E,Dop, Androgen), issues with the Krebs cycle, change of 5ar (epigenetic or even Mutation?), CNS issues etc.
Some got sides on fin due to rwducwd dht, elevated estro and testo...: There was a different balance on fin already.

The raising dht levels (in general crazy new imbalance) after fin could have also brought up the immune system (very complicated) to attack 5ar, not dht.
If we suppress dht with prog, dht comes back normally. But it was 5ar suppresed all the time. What if body did not recognise 5ar properly anymore?

Anyway, I am convinced our way of balancing with minerals, vits and aminos is one big step. I even resized my penis within three days to prefin state, but don't know what I took exactly.

I personally think that urine protocol could be very interesting. Helen explained why.

I will give it a try. Ppl are aware now how bad pfs can be if you are ready to try your own piss. Never thought I would do this

 

[lakehouse]

23andme cannot test all possible factors, is very limitated. Its kinda strange they ASK you if you took fin when ordering.
Some guys think they will use crispr one day. Really? Ppl are dreaming.

In my eyes, all the symptoms we are facing, are just the surface: immune reactions, upregulated AR, gut issues, receptor issues (E,Dop, Androgen), issues with the Krebs cycle, change of 5ar (epigenetic or even Mutation?), CNS issues etc.
Some got sides on fin due to rwducwd dht, elevated estro and testo...: There was a different balance on fin already.

The raising dht levels (in general crazy new imbalance) after fin could have also brought up the immune system (very complicated) to attack 5ar, not dht.
If we suppress dht with prog, dht comes back normally. But it was 5ar suppresed all the time. What if body did not recognise 5ar properly anymore?

Anyway, I am convinced our way of balancing with minerals, vits and aminos is one big step. I even resized my penis within three days to prefin state, but don't know what I took exactly.

I personally think that urine protocol could be very interesting. Helen explained why.

I will give it a try. Ppl are aware now how bad pfs can be if you are ready to try your own piss. Never thought I would do this

try what you want, but without writing off the 23&me, just add the data

who cares if its wrong? just pitch in if you can. theres a chance its right as well, no one knows

 

[bruschi11]

The PH guys are searching down the wrong avenues. It’s so sad what they do over there doing whatever they can to not let people know about our work here.

If you’ve made any sort of recovery- you get it. Finasteride got us sick. It created an imbalance in system that let whatever capable pathogens, toxins, imbalances completely disrupt system.

Yea I’m sure there is a molecular way of going about pfs. But I’m also sure that a good portion wouldn’t even respond to this molecular type type treatments because imbalance is so deep that someone would need to be in moderately good health for said imbalance to be erased.

If you’ve spent as much time as I have on these sites you just see the trends in what gets people better.

I think fixing gut and making it optimal should be #1 on everyone’s list. And when I say optimal I mean your digestion is absolutely robust and you are making 2-3 large good looking bowel movements a day. And you’re food is making you feel strong and energetic.

Once you do that and follow a TEI or other NB circuit for a couple months to a year, I’m sure you wouldn’t be looking into these crazy PH gene type methods.

The best way of fixing your genes is cleaning yourself internally. Health causes genes to express.

 

[bruschi11]

And I don’t want to highjack this thread as just a “PH is bad.” It’s not what intend to do.

But time is a major concern for people in this battle here. Why waste months on end looking for genetic modification type ways of going at this when we have person after person getting better.

I was destroyed by fin to degree where I was at parents house in bed for 6+ months on suicide watch. Obviously, having come back from that makes me a bit biased with an eternal optimist attitude “if I can come back from that, anybody could.”

There’s no definitive way in getting out
Of health problems. But if we look at pfs as just a health problem, then we can use alternative health to fix our bodies. It might be one thing you need to fix, or a series of issues that need to be fixed one after another.

For me last year, a Lyme/mycoplasma infection was #1. After removing the infection to a significant degree, I was then able to work on my liver, gut, kidneys, immunity with mainly fasting, liver flushes, diet/exercise, and digestion/immune system supplementation.

This is an intricate issue we have and it takes a lot of mindwork in getting out. Having said that and going through what I’ve experienced, I highly doubt one actual universal cure will ever exist for this entire community.

 

[lakehouse]

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And I don’t want to highjack this thread as just a “PH is bad.” It’s not what intend to do.

But time is a major concern for people in this battle here. Why waste months on end looking for genetic modification type ways of going at this when we have person after person getting better.

I was destroyed by fin to degree where I was at parents house in bed for 6+ months on suicide watch. Obviously, having come back from that makes me a bit biased with an eternal optimist attitude “if I can come back from that, anybody could.”

There’s no definitive way in getting out
Of health problems. But if we look at pfs as just a health problem, then we can use alternative health to fix our bodies. It might be one thing you need to fix, or a series of issues that need to be fixed one after another.

For me last year, a Lyme/mycoplasma infection was #1. After removing the infection to a significant degree, I was then able to work on my liver, gut, kidneys, immunity with mainly fasting, liver flushes, diet/exercise, and digestion/immune system supplementation.

This is an intricate issue we have and it takes a lot of mindwork in getting out. Having said that and going through what I’ve experienced, I highly doubt one actual universal cure will ever exist for this entire community.

No one here is wasting months on this.

All I’m asking people to do is spend 30-60 min total possibly on ordering a genetics test and uploading the results

 

[raven]

I have 23&me data already, lmk when you need it sent, also @Ghost has already done a huge amount of great work on a PSSD genome project, so get in contact with him if you can

 

[lakehouse]

I have 23&me data already, lmk when you need it sent, also @Ghost has already done a huge amount of great work on a PSSD genome project, so get in contact with him if you can

Appreciate it, will contact soon

 

[Chapman]

I'll buy a kit as well, I'm interested in the ancestry stuff.

 

[bruschi11]

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No one here is wasting months on this.

All I’m asking people to do is spend 30-60 min total possibly on ordering a genetics test and uploading the results

I have results. Where to upload. Propeciahelp (and solvepfs) banned me. Tell them to unban me and I’ll give them my results.

I do think 23andme is great for assessing your health. Learned a lot from mine.

 

[Trump_1776]

I have results. Where to upload. Propeciahelp (and solvepfs) banned me. Tell them to unban me and I’ll give them my results.

I do think 23andme is great for assessing your health. Learned a lot from mine.

I get banned places too lol we're too savage for these cucks bruv

 

[bruschi11]

I get banned places too lol we're too savage for these cucks bruv

Lol I admit I went too far sometimes on solve. Was just so excited I was getting healthy and passionate about it that I went off the rails.

On PH I want to like file a lawsuit for why I was banned. Haha would never do that but I just can’t believe why I got banned. Was trying to provide hope for a dude.

 

[BC2018]

The boys at PH are doing a genetic test, and it would really help if we can all pitch in data points by ordering a 23&me test.

"The boys" at PropeciaHelp are actually girls so us following their lead is laughable and like females their intelligence is to follow fads and authority without worrying about consequences. If I ever see them doing something especially their leader mew I will know to stop doing that thing because it's a waste of time. The 23andme project is more dangerous than merck, I'm not giving them money and genetic material so they can create more bioweapons like pfs. Remember what Mark Zuckerberg said about his early users he called them dumbfucks for giving him their personal information for free. And Facebook is childs play compared to Google/23andme.

 

[lakehouse]

I have results. Where to upload. Propeciahelp (and solvepfs) banned me. Tell them to unban me and I’ll give them my results.

I do think 23andme is great for assessing your health. Learned a lot from mine.

Okay I’ll tell them to unban you, thanks for your Co-operation

 

[bruschi11]

Okay I’ll tell them to unban you, thanks for your Co-operation

Sounds good. Thanks man.