TEI and 4 lows

[Ingeno]

Hello all,

I've been trying to find any information about TEI reading a 4 lows hair test properly? Can't find anything conclusive and I've read that 4 lows is always a slow oxidizer, but TEI does rank some 4 lows as fast oxidizer, based on the ratio's, meaning that you'll get all the wrong supplements and diet, right?

Any information would be great. Maybe @Helen knows more about this subject.

I remember that ARL does treat 4 lows correctly, or at least recognizes the 4 lows pattern.

 

[Admiral]

Good question. I've read the same stuff. Interested in hearing someone else his thoughts on this.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Dunno man they don't give the same supps to every "fast 1" either. So I think they can see you are four lows and what is wrong with you.

That is why we have fast 1's who get zinc + manganese and we have fast 1's who get copper + manganese.

Same for the slow oxidizers. Some get copper or zinc. Or something else.

Still I don't know evrything about this stuff. Would like to know as well.

 

[Ingeno]

Dunno man they don't give the same supps to every "fast 1" either. So I think they can see you are four lows and what is wrong with you.

That is why we have fast 1's who get zinc + manganese and we have fast 1's who get copper + manganese.

Same for the slow oxidizers. Some get copper or zinc.

Still I don't know evrything about this stuff. Would like to know as well.

I think that is somewhat of a problem with these protocols the uncertainty and unanswered questions make it tough sometime. It would be great if we could get some more conclusive answers on those subjects.

The main problem is that I'm almost reading everywhere that 4 lows can't be a fast oxidizer and is always a burnt out slow oxidizer, but TEI does rank you as a fast oxidizer because they only look at the ratio's, thus the diet and maybe the faxt oxidizer supplements, like sym-pack III could be wrong for me. I would be throwing away a lot of money if I'm staying in the 4 lows for 3-4 hair tests and even more important, throwing away 1 year of my life.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I think that is somewhat of a problem with these protocols the uncertainty and unanswered questions make it tough sometime. It would be great if we could get some more conclusive answers on those subjects.

The main problem is that I'm almost reading everywhere that 4 lows can't be a fast oxidizer and is always a burnt out slow oxidizer, but TEI does rank you as a fast oxidizer because they only look at the ratio's, thus the diet and maybe the faxt oxidizer supplements, like sym-pack III could be wrong for me. I would be throwing away a lot of money if I'm staying in the 4 lows for 3-4 hair tests and even more important, throwing away 1 year of my life.

Yes I think it is good to ask questions.

What I think but I am not TRACE ELEMENTS so don't pin me on it:

The computer will calculate what you need incl. sympack or parapack. The name is automatic from the ratios - it is not that important. I wonder if you can get parapack if you are named a "fast oxidizer". If so then that would be enough evidence.

 

[Ingeno]

Yes I think it is good to ask questions.

What I think but I am not TRACE ELEMENTS so don't pin me on it:

The computer will calculate what you need incl. sympack or parapack. The name is automatic from the ratios - it is not that important. I wonder if you can get parapack if you are named a "fast oxidizer". If so then that would be enough evidence.

I know Rebel, and I agree with you for the most part. I don't doubt their knowledge about fixing imbalances, they probably know it all. But I'm talking about the specific well known pattern 4 lows, which is one of the hardest to fix.

This is also worriesome from Dr. Wilson, very recent update about the 4 lows, even admitting that it can result in an improper program.

"UPDATE 4/6/19. Faux four lows. We have discovered a few cases on retests only that look like low four lows patterns, but are not really four lows. So far, this is what we know:
- Faux four lows only occurs on retests.
- The person is always following the program faithfully.
- It looks like a low four lows pattern and we believe the Na/K ratio is good.
- The calcium and magnesium levels are really much higher in the tissues, but not in the hair.
- It is an intervention.
- It is not a regular four lows case and they do not need a four lows pattern.
- Fortunately, the pattern is rare since it can result in an improper program.
- We are still researching how to identify the pattern easily."

 

[RebelWithACause]

I know Rebel, and I agree with you for the most part. I don't doubt their knowledge about fixing imbalances, they probably know it all. But I'm talking about the specific well known pattern 4 lows, which is one of the hardest to fix.

This is also worriesome from Dr. Wilson, very recent update about the 4 lows, even admitting that it can result in an improper program.

"UPDATE 4/6/19. Faux four lows. We have discovered a few cases on retests only that look like low four lows patterns, but are not really four lows. So far, this is what we know:
- Faux four lows only occurs on retests.
- The person is always following the program faithfully.
- It looks like a low four lows pattern and we believe the Na/K ratio is good.
- The calcium and magnesium levels are really much higher in the tissues, but not in the hair.
- It is an intervention.
- It is not a regular four lows case and they do not need a four lows pattern.
- Fortunately, the pattern is rare since it can result in an improper program.
- We are still researching how to identify the pattern easily."

Hmm interesting. Didn't you have four lows on the first test?
He says "faux four lows only occurs on retests"

Anyways I understand your concern. I would ASSUME TEI has a system for this.

 

[Ingeno]

Hmm interesting. Didn't you have four lows on the first test?
He says "faux four lows only occurs on retests"

Anyways I understand your concern. I would ASSUME TEI has a system for this.

Yes first test was 4 lows, but I wouldn't be suprised that their theory is also valid for people like us who have been experimenting with all kind of hormones, minerals and things like hydrogen water before hair testing. In a way we all have been doing cycles of other stuff, we weren't like normal people who just ate like crap and didn't use any supplements at all.