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things work when close, just keep at it. don't worry, there's no perfect way, otherwise ... no one would ever cure anything. I did things as perfectly as my ADD ass could...
 
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Last 2-3 days I had the DHT feeling again. This is also after increasing my intake of TEI recommended cashews (nuts). Maybe I was missing ARA like Helen said in his post. Before this cycle I ate plenty of fat from red meat and milk (ARA) but didn't do anything. Not sure how stable it is. Maybe in a few days I will feel different. Just posting this to keep track of the ups and downs.

Random girls are attracted to me and sitting close to me. Staring at me with their bedroom eyes. Funny. I also got a few boners sitting next to girls. I got that drive again to fuck bitches!

With that my scalp has become itchy again ("DHT itch") and I have insomnia. It is 4AM and I am wide awake like I want to go to the gym or fuck a girl. I will pobably only sleep 3 hours this night.

Libido and boners are on/off. But overall physically I seem to react to women again.

This is only 3 days so yea let's see how stable it is. Plus I have to get off the supps. See what happens then.
 

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bang bro sometimes you just have to whip it out (only at your place and jokingly and with someone who's down. not in public, definitely not in school/work).
 

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Wow reading this back is funny. I changed my life a lot and my health is good/stable now. It's weird to read this. Like I was in a bad dream for a few years.

It was awesome being around people who were all highly motivated to get out of PFS. It's a shame the forum disappeared. I am still around on Discord and I will visit the forum once in a while. Perhaps we can explore different territories as well (apart from PFS, PSSD, PAS, etc.).

I have my own ideas about PFS which I will post soon. It might shake things up. It could help some people I think. Although a lot of the information and insight came from Helen but also other forum posters from here. I think I found connections. I am not a theorizer and I find it hard to write down what is in my head but I will try my best. I have done this myself and used this to get out of the last bit of PFS. This process made me understand finally (in my opinion) what PFS really is. But I do want to write it down properly instead of just throwing it out there.

Apart from living my normal life, I do fasting sometimes now just for health benefits and will keep doing it.

RIP to zadig. RIP to Ocguy. Hopefully the rest of you are doing good now or at the very least better.
 

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I’m still around. Mister on ray peat forum posted this was back up that’s only way I saw it; don’t think others would know this is here again. Definitely want hear your thoughts on PFS mechanism; glad you are doing well.

I want to try the proviron protocol badly, this summer after I get married (don’t want any experiments before that since I’m decent. But I’m not cured)

Can you actually get in trouble buying this stuff off internet? Only thing I ever bought was R-andro. I can’t take any risks with my job. How do I source?
 
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@Aflac94 Should be good. I would try to get pharma grade Proviron. You can use UGL Proviron which I also did and it worked but it's more risky. If you do, get the stuff tested before you take it.

I don't think you will get in trouble. Even in the USA lots of people use anabolic steroids. Unless you are buying kilograms of gear I don't think they care.
 

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Thank you. What does UGL stand for? It’s not approved/prescribed in US, so how would I get pharma grade?

I google and these sites come up but don’t know if anything is real. Quite expensive too if they are 25mg tabs to get to the 200mg per day for 6 weeks
 

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I can get drunk again sort of. Which is kind of cool. Used to feel nothing from alcohol in PFS for years. Still can’t exercise/build muscle and sleep like I used to my biggest things left to fix
 

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Thank you. What does UGL stand for? It’s not approved/prescribed in US, so how would I get pharma grade?

I google and these sites come up but don’t know if anything is real. Quite expensive too if they are 25mg tabs to get to the 200mg per day for 6 weeks
UGL is underground lab. So homebrewed or made in a non-official lab somewhere. So not official product from Bayer. But the same active ingredients.

You can do UGL. But it is risky. You don't know 100% what is in it unless you test it.

Pharma grade is often expensive but the quality is good.
 

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UGL is underground lab. So homebrewed or made in a non-official lab somewhere. So not official product from Bayer. But the same active ingredients.

You can do UGL. But it is risky. You don't know 100% what is in it unless you test it.

Pharma grade is often expensive but the quality is good.
Another option if wanting to avoid UGL is AlphaGels' transdermal stuff. I can personally vouch for his product. DHT raws in a DMSO carrier with some secret coco cola formula of eleven herbs and spices for purportedly increasing transdermal uptake. By virtue of being transdermal the terminal half life is limited to that of DHT itself (an hour-ish iirc), however I suspect DHT products with shorter half lifes (and higher androgenic transcriptional effect) produce better therapeutic outcomes. However I have no proof to support this claim, only anecdotal vibes from seeing people's outcomes with stuff like Andractim vs Proviron vs Masteron, etc. Also if you're sensitive it it his product may cause some mild burning on the skin either through the DMSO or additives he uses.

@Aflac94 Not sure what country you're in but I've had no issues ordering UGL & Indian Pharma stuff direct to my front door here in the United States. Unless you're ordering something like schedule I or II most authorities couldn't care less.

Not sure if we're comfortable discussing these UGL sources on the forums. Feel free to DM me and I can send you sources I've used successfully. I'm also jrod#0001 on Discord if you're on there
 
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I can get drunk again sort of. Which is kind of cool. Used to feel nothing from alcohol in PFS for years. Still can’t exercise/build muscle and sleep like I used to my biggest things left to fix
I cant get drunk either this shit is fucking so stupid.
 

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Failed the first waterfast I did. I did 6 days last week. Then refeed for 1 day and started another one. Now I am on day 2. Doing a dryfast as long as possible. Then drink once I am thirsty. Repeat that. Last time I did a dry fast I broke my whole fast because of thirst. I assume if I drink something I can go further again. We will see.
 

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Started fasting again. I want to see how far I can push the body without dying.

I did 3 day dry fast, now fourth day I got severe thirst so drank water and will listen to my body when it needs water.

I workout every day while fasting just like my first fast. Hopefully hit higher than 11 days now.
 

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Congrats my brother!! Seen you are crushing it this year and last year or so.
 

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I'm decent bro. Going through some degenerative disc disease stuff and my routine really got messed up. But i'm ok I think mostly.
 

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Wow reading this back is funny. I changed my life a lot and my health is good/stable now. It's weird to read this. Like I was in a bad dream for a few years.

It was awesome being around people who were all highly motivated to get out of PFS. It's a shame the forum disappeared. I am still around on Discord and I will visit the forum once in a while. Perhaps we can explore different territories as well (apart from PFS, PSSD, PAS, etc.).

I have my own ideas about PFS which I will post soon. It might shake things up. It could help some people I think. Although a lot of the information and insight came from Helen but also other forum posters from here. I think I found connections. I am not a theorizer and I find it hard to write down what is in my head but I will try my best. I have done this myself and used this to get out of the last bit of PFS. This process made me understand finally (in my opinion) what PFS really is. But I do want to write it down properly instead of just throwing it out there.

Apart from living my normal life, I do fasting sometimes now just for health benefits and will keep doing it.

RIP to zadig. RIP to Ocguy. Hopefully the rest of you are doing good now or at the very least better.
Hi
You have not posted your idea yet, which protocol you performed to get rid of pfs ?
 

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Hi
You have not posted your idea yet, which protocol you performed to get rid of pfs ?
I used all info from this forum. Mostly from Helen but also from some of the people on PropeciaHelp and SwoleSource. I can write down an in depth protocol that I did. It's just that it worked for me and it was over months of doing it. So I am not sure if it is a good idea to write a specific program down and hurt people.

I do think things like TEI and the experiments done here set me up for success as well.