Nervous System Questions

joekool

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I have some nervous system questions for the other folks here [mention]Canari[/mention] (i've seen you have some replies on this so I'm hoping this makes sense)

Correct me if I'm wrong on some of my understanding here...

Sympathetic Nervous System controls Adrenaline & Norepinephrine
Parasympathetic Nervous System controls acetylcholine & nitric oxide

My mornings I tend to be cold (i'm going to get body temps over the next week to correlate) & I continue to suffer the tightening up of my genitals but release by mid day. I've researched and believe it's related to Norepinephrine ... what can be done to offset such a morning response?

Would an alpha blocker help here?

How about T3 again?

I'm all over the place here , I know... looking for advice on a lasting symptom...
 

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Yes I can try to answer... but maybe I will answer what you did not ask.... as your questions are playing on different systems, and not only about the nervous system. So I cannot make a simple answer. If I write in such a way that you can refine your questions and pinpoint, then I will be happy!

- The system you talk about is the ANS, Autonomic Nervous System. We have 3 branches and not 2. Well, one is double, the brake system, we have also pedal and hand break. One works in alternance with accelerator, and one can work at the same time as accelerator.

- The ANS is also related to the limbic and cortex, and all 3 form the "triune brain".

- Nerves are nerves! They are strong threads in our body and they are like electricity cables. So they have nothing to do with the blood circulation, and they are not the endocrine system nor hormones.

- The ANS is NOT only the fight and flight response, and far from it, and is not only about instinct, far from it.

- The language of the ANS is called the felt sense. The ANS has no word but through connexion with the other parts of the brain, influences emotions and thoughts. When we do not feel the felt sense, sometimes we feel only the emotion or the repetitive thinking. The truth is that they try to attract our attention to what is happening at physiological levels.
 

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Adrenaline & Norepinephrine
Or noradrenaline, this is the same, just different according to the country!
 

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Thank you very much ! I have some reading and understanding to do... didn't want you to think I wasn't appreciative but standby for my questions lol
 

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Sympathetic Nervous System controls Adrenaline & Norepinephrine
Stimulates epinephrine & Norepinephrine release.

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The above can also show 2 things:

Asthma is a bronchial constriction, and the main parasympathetic nerve is the vagus nerve. There is a method curing asthma (I know 1st hand testimonies) with manipulations that remove some sub-luxations of the ribs, as the vagus nerve is just under the ribs. So someone figured out that there was some phantom sensations sent to the brain, same as amputated people who suffer from feeling a phantom limb.

You can also see that BOTH parts of the ANS are involved in sexual behaviour. We know that we need a rest state for digestion, immune sysgem and sex, but actually, we also need some sympathetic tone!
 

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Thank you very much ... this is all great information... I've been researching my body's stress response but I've begun using T3 & i've seen marked improvements in a lot of my remaining symptoms ... I think this information helps me a lot...

thank you again and I'll work to write up what I think is happening to me, as more evidence comes in
 

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Taking whatever like T3 or any supp will not do much on the ANS. But indeed, whatever you do to balance your body will reduce the agression on your body, thus removing the necessity to get a defensive response!

This is the important point, hope I explain it in a way easy to understand: if you remove a threat, you feel better, but this does not mean that you are regulating your nervous system better! It is easy to feel calm when everything is fine, and not so easy to feel good in the midst of problems, even metabolic problems.

The ability of your nervous system you want to develop is to hold the difficulties without rupturing your limits: you want to become more elastic, like a helium balloon. And this has nothing to do with will or strength and bravoury. The abilities you want to develop are called coherence and resilience and capacity to hold and carry more at subtle energetic levels.

And the reason you would want to work on this is that you need the right parasympathetic state called also the rest and digest mode. The truth is uncomplete... as this mode has 2 other caracteristics: capacity to have sex and capacity of the immune system to function.

When your sympathetic (accelerator) mode is on too much and too long and not alternating enough with rest mode, then your body suppresses part or most of the 4 "useless at the moment" functions of rest digest sex and immunity. Your body just want to concentrate its energy on urgent tasks. When the sympathetic is really high, it burns a lot of energy. Of course this state is supposed to be very momentary.

The bad news is that you cannot force relaxation, and that most humans have forgotten how to induce a real SPONTANEOUS relaxation. We can act with consciousness, but ONLY indirectly and using tricks. it is an autonomic intelligence that has its own life...

The good news is that we can learn to be conscious of what happens on its own, so that we can have some efficient action. Knowing how it works is the 1st step, and the 2nd is to pay attention to what happens and what we feel.
wow, thank you, this is so interesting! can you give us a step by step of how to heal/fix/balance our nervous system? my add brain gets confused/distracted easily lol.
 

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can you give us a step by step of how to heal/fix/balance our nervous system?

1) The nervous system language is called the felt-sense. It is all you feel at physical sensation level. For example if you are angry or afraid or sad, this is not the language of the ANS but of the limbic/emotional brain. Then if you ask your self "how do I know I am angry or afraid or sad? How and where do I feel this is my body?", then the answer comes from the ANS.

2) Instead of a scale, I want as an image the seesaw: we are all the time going up and down, and this is the balance, we need to be adapted to what happens, act when we do sport, relax when we go to sleep. If you fix the nervous system, it goes like the straight line of light we see in films when in hospital they monitor a heart, and want to make understand the person is dead. ----------------- iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
I can also represent htis by saying that if you do a hair test and you ar a balanced metabolic type, then it allows you to choose: you can be a fast 4 when you run for your life, a slow 4 during anesthesia, and a slow-just-what-is-needed when you are a the hammock on the coconut beach! The goal of being balanced is to never stay stuck in one state.

3) So we need to learn how to be more resilient, how to let our body do its job, as it is autonomic, we do not make it happen with our thinking mind. We interfere too much when we are not in contact with our felt-sense, our body sensations, our somatic feeling. It would be easy if it was only this! The problem by not having done this properly all our life, is that we have a stock of past activations that heve not been discharged, and that it prevents the automatic proper balance to happen well. Just thank our culture for this....

4) So we need to do this step by step. Let go water from the dam to make electricity without rupturing the dam with too much at a time.

5) I will give ways to help this, I an thinking about how to do it. But beofre this, to let you know what is possible, I will let you know what is not: a step by step cannot do anything. It would be as if you asked for all what you have to say during the day at your job, what do you answer when somebody ask you "how are you" or "where do you come from". Ok..., when you learn a language, this is useful, and then you become autonomous and can make your own sentences...!

6) But the truth is that you already speak this language! You have to listen to it more, and you have to remember to ask yourself these questions I suggested when you have emotions: how do you know you have this emotion and where do you feel it in the body? This language is talking to you like a child who pulls mother's skirt and ask for attention. Put your attention on it and let it happen and you will notice that the felt sense evolves and changes in a few minutes. Our ANS is quite slow when it can. It is super quick when needed, like removing your hand from the hot stove! But who pays attention to the coming down to a calm state after having succeeded in avoiding the burn? Nobody, and it should be everybody...

In meditation they will always first tell you to notice your breathing without changing it. The first step is then to pay attention as much as possible to what happens in your body.
 

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Healing and balancing of the nervous system is to give it a full free range of balancing movement,
think about the seesaw!

When you are stressed, you cannot stand a lot of noise and movement around you, but you cannot stand silence and allow full rest either... You are like a seesaw that can barely move, either nearly horizontal and you cannot reach the ground with your feet, nor go high in the air! Or you can be too heavy on one side.

Healing is to allow progressively more movement in your system.

It will help all diseases, because any health issue is felt as an aggression and diminishes our ability to bounce. Also, all the charge of stress that puts you in a sympathetic activation / arousal will inhibit the immune system. And you want to hack back your immune system = you want a parasympathetic state = you want to make go down all your sympathetic activations. And you cannot fake it, you have to make it for real, because anyway you do it for you. You do not want to take a nice yoga pose and make everybody believe you are in utter harmony and bliss!

- look at the image above - sympathetic activation inhibit saliva and digestion. They forgot to mention that it inhibits also the immune system!

Remember that this system is nervous, electric, and that neurotransmitters are released in the blood : they are not equivalent. Think also that cells have no nervous system. It is supposed that mineral movements inside the cells are playing the role of the nervous system in the intra-cellular medium...