ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

[JonnyCraig]

Does potassium, sodium and magnesium have to be in chloride form? Sodium and potassium chloride especially are impossible to find. None in supplemental form at least.

V8 juice with low sodium has salt replaced with Potassium chloride, Magnesium.

it has 850mg of Potassium per 250ml!



EDIT: looks like they took MAG OUT on website? but the bottles I buy has magnesium in as well...

Ingredients: WATER, TOMATO PASTE, JUICE OF (CARROTS, CELERY, BEETS, PARSLEY, LETTUCE, WATERCRESS, SPINACH), WHITE GRAPE JUICE CONCENTRATE, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE (SALT SUBSTITUTE), CARROT JUICE CONCENTRATE, SALT, ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), FLAVOUR, SEASONING, CITRIC ACID (FOR TARTNESS).

 

[tallglass13]

Update:
still taking histidine and cysteine...but 3 days ago I added just a touch of biotin in the capsule. I noted a increase in penis sensitivity. I am not sure if it is just the continued improvements from the histidine cysteine. Or from the added biotin. I also added some NADH 5mg to help increase dopamine. that may have helped also. but the penis sensitivity is very noticeable. the last three nights been waking up wanting to "play with it". no ejaculation FYI, Im practicing a scheduled ejaculation frequency of once every 10 days or so.

 

[Helen]

Update:
still taking histidine and cysteine...but 3 days ago I added just a touch of biotin in the capsule. I noted a increase in penis sensitivity. I am not sure if it is just the continued improvements from the histidine cysteine. Or from the added biotin. I also added some NADH 5mg to help increase dopamine. that may have helped also. but the penis sensitivity is very noticeable. the last three nights been waking up wanting to "play with it". no ejaculation FYI, Im practicing a scheduled ejaculation frequency of once every 10 days or so.

Nice, bud. Cysteine and histidine increase biotin uptake from the intestine.

 

[Reverse]

@gbolduev
Hi, thanks for your insight on the issue of PFS. It's definitely a different approach.

I just want to shed some light on a few of my issues and how they connect to your theory.
I posted somewhere in the forum that I have carpal tunnel syndrome as a side effect of pfs. I found a site about 2 weeks ago that claimed most cases of CTS are caused by Vitamin B2 & B6 deficiency. So I gave it a try and I've been recovering slowly but surely.

Weird thing is that I NEVER had any vitamin or mineral deficiencies in my life until crashing. This definitely connects with your theory about zinc finger.

Questions:
Do You think pfs can cause someone to have issues with methylation? Do I need methylated vitamins? Or is your original theory still what you believe in.

Also, how do I fix this issue with vitamin b?
I also have low thyroid issue but you say it's not hormones. What do I take to fix it and get my vitamins and protein working normal?
I've lost muscle in my hands and body and have wrinkles in them. I take amino acids but they don't seem to absorb in the body.
what is HCL? how do I supplement that?

Will I be stuck taking B vitamins forever? lol

 

[tallglass13]

As for the hair. hair growth is a slow process I assume. and the bald crown is a feat in itself so it is a waiting game. but Im dermarolling, redlight, salt scrubs sometimes, and massage sometimes. So Hope to see some improvement over the next few months. but I think it is going in the right direction. I shave my head. looks like I have a full head of hair, when its shaved. but you can feel that there is no hair at the very tip top of the crown. thats were im judging the success. if hair grows there, then it time to grow everything out.

 

[tallglass13]

I wanted to start posting some pics, but for some reason I cannot connect to hackstasis from my phone. @TubZy might be able to help, but when I try to open it from my phone, the whole internet connection is lost. Every time. So I only post when Im at work on the computer.

 

[TubZy]

I wanted to start posting some pics, but for some reason I cannot connect to hackstasis from my phone. @TubZy might be able to help, but when I try to open it from my phone, the whole internet connection is lost. Every time. So I only post when Im at work on the computer.

What OS and browsers are you using? Did the old site give you trouble on mobile too?

 

[TubZy]

Hi everyone, i was pretty inactive and sorry that i didn’t reply.
Soo i felt pretty good on the things i mentioned in my post, but i added vitamin e to the protocol because it was the last days of the Clomid protocol and really got signs of low Estrogen. I didn’t take it since then. Last Sunday i added Beta alanine citrulin and arginine.
On that day a drank all things together with HCL and got really really bad stomach aches, since then i feel not so good anymore maybe something happened, was very fatigued and anxious the next days. Also one mistake was to increase folate from 500 mcg to 1000 mcg 2 days after the alanine citrulin arginine Combo.
The next day i really had very heavy breath problems i think due the potassium wich was always low and the methylation push just used that little bit that left. I tanked a lot of potassium the last days and slowly feel better now. In the last week i dont had Libido at all i comes back slowly now.

You may not even need HCL anymore if you have been taking histidine and aminos for a while as hisitidine itself can bring up low stomach acid.

 

[Sevens]

Sevens, which aspartic acid product are you taking?

Take some from Myprotein.com

 

[Sevens]

Beta alanine? methylfolate? there is no beta alanine on the protocol, also there is no methyl forms of folate on the protocol. Both of them lower histidine

Active form of folate converts histidine to glutamic acid. That is why people experience methylation problems in histidine deficiency, and when they take methylation , they run into potassium problems and this and that, since it kills histidine even lower and raises cortisol.

that is why I said to increase foods with folate, not some methyl folate. and let the body convert folic acid into its active form as needed once histidine goes up.

Plus aminos, you should take in very small amounts, you need to concentrade on histidine cysteine, aspartic acid, serine.

You mentioned alanine in your Protocol, so that’s why im taking it
I didn’t no that methyfolate and methylgroups are a big no no on that protocol but i really felt that something goes wrong, short breath like crazy, irritability and so on.

Is NAC an okay source of cysteine for slow oxidiser?

 

[Helen]

You mentioned alanine in your Protocol, so that’s why im taking it
I didn’t no that methyfolate and methylgroups are a big no no on that protocol but i really felt that something goes wrong, short breath like crazy, irritability and so on.

Is NAC an okay source of cysteine for slow oxidiser?

So everytime you take methylfolate , you are short of breath?

Short of breath could also be if your insulin goes way down. So we need to figure this out. Since you guys who are trying all this, so we need to see the feedback from supps.

Dont put everything in one pile. We need your feedback to see what is going on.

Our goal is to increase cortisol sensitivity and lower cortisol levels, thus increasing potassium. If your are going down on potassium. that is not good. and either we are not doing it right, or you are taking it in the wrong combinations.

SO you need to stay in touch and we need to figure out what is going on.

According to the USSR study. histidine arginine lysine and potassium chlorides . fixed potassium loss, not the opposite.

 

[Admiral]

@gbolduev - I keep reading the full protocol is to lower cortisol. Do you think I should still try the full protocol with low adrenaline output? Or am I more suited for progesteron suppletion? I’m kind of lost..

 

[Helen]

@gbolduev - I keep reading the full protocol is to lower cortisol. Do you think I should still try the full protocol with low adrenaline output? Or am I more suited for progesteron suppletion? I’m kind of lost..

We are trying this protocol, and we need to see that it does what we need from it. So I would not suggest you using it yet, until we clear it

 

[Helen]

https://hackstasis.com/forums/-/list Just look up the ingredients LOL

 

[tallglass13]

Update on other benefits noted
my muscles in the legs are staying strong. Before I would notice that if I didnt move much, the next day My quads would feel softer, almost like the muscles dissolved from not using them. So , now , my legs feel fuller and stronger, despite spending the last 5 days in bed with a sinus infection. which by the way did not take ANY medication. Now I am fine. Like that paper on Sulfur and autism that Gbold posted, just one dose of Tylenol completely wiped out the sulfur enzymes.
I have some gut issues for a long time now, probably candida. rectal itching, small ezcema rash on ankle. So now, those issues are all improving. Alot less itching, almost down to nothing.
Today while working , Im enjoying a fuller, stronger penis underneath my scrubs.

 

[Nina]

So everytime you take methylfolate , you are short of breath?

Short of breath could also be if your insulin goes way down. So we need to figure this out. Since you guys who are trying all this, so we need to see the feedback from supps.

Dont put everything in one pile. We need your feedback to see what is going on.

Our goal is to increase cortisol sensitivity and lower cortisol levels, thus increasing potassium. If your are going down on potassium. that is not good. and either we are not doing it right, or you are taking it in the wrong combinations.

SO you need to stay in touch and we need to figure out what is going on.

According to the USSR study. histidine arginine lysine and potassium chlorides . fixed potassium loss, not the opposite.

I have same thing, shortness of breath on methylation (folate)

 

[TubZy]

So everytime you take methylfolate , you are short of breath?

Short of breath could also be if your insulin goes way down. So we need to figure this out. Since you guys who are trying all this, so we need to see the feedback from supps.

Dont put everything in one pile. We need your feedback to see what is going on.

Our goal is to increase cortisol sensitivity and lower cortisol levels, thus increasing potassium. If your are going down on potassium. that is not good. and either we are not doing it right, or you are taking it in the wrong combinations.

SO you need to stay in touch and we need to figure out what is going on.

According to the USSR study. histidine arginine lysine and potassium chlorides . fixed potassium loss, not the opposite.

Has anyone tried just replicate the USSR study yet? How did you even find that study Mr G ?

Hisitidine
Lysine
Arginine
Potassium chloride

 

[snowball]

I got L-Histamine.

For remaining protocol items:
Can we use D-Aspartic acid, NAC and Phosphadylserine....in place of Aspartic acid, cysteine, serine?

 

[TubZy]

Update on other benefits noted
my muscles in the legs are staying strong. Before I would notice that if I didnt move much, the next day My quads would feel softer, almost like the muscles dissolved from not using them. So , now , my legs feel fuller and stronger, despite spending the last 5 days in bed with a sinus infection. which by the way did not take ANY medication. Now I am fine. Like that paper on Sulfur and autism that Gbold posted, just one dose of Tylenol completely wiped out the sulfur enzymes.
I have some gut issues for a long time now, probably candida. rectal itching, small ezcema rash on ankle. So now, those issues are all improving. Alot less itching, almost down to nothing.
Today while working , Im enjoying a fuller, stronger penis underneath my scrubs.

@gbolduev says Candida will clear once body is back in balance

 

[JonnyCraig]

I got L-Histamine.

For remaining protocol items:
Can we use D-Aspartic acid, NAC and Phosphadylserine....in place of Aspartic acid, cysteine, serine?

No to all 3