Acetylcholine and nasal congestion

galio23

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Hello.
I recently read that gbold recomends that people wih allergies should actually up their intake of histidine.

My nose get congested when i am near cigarette smoke, i read that cig.smoke activates Ach receptors in the sinuses... So the same logic applies in my case too right? I need to up my ach levels in order not to get congested all the time ?

I have symptoms of low ach:\

This sub-forum seemed like the best place to post it. Sorry if it is not for here :)
 

Orion

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Interested in this too, I always get congested/blockage while sleeping every night, and goes away after waking.
 

Canari

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I think the hormone forum was best adequated, because ACh is a hormone.
i read that cig.smoke activates Ach receptors in the sinuses... So the same logic applies in my case too right? I need to up my ach levels in order not to get congested all the time ?
Only in sinus? Nicotine multiplies ACh receptors in general I think.

I also suspect too high co2 as @Ewelina and I think most congestion goes away when we get up and breathe more. I have it too. Then it can be related to sinus and teethgums prolem?

For ACh, do you eat egg yolks? I eat 3 per day... I eat 1 egg per meal having some fat.
Baccopa is a useful plant for ACh levels.
All hormones are related anyway.

Some drugs are anti-cholinergetic. Especially anti-histaminics.
 

Nina

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Interested in this too, I always get congested/blockage while sleeping every night, and goes away after waking.

This sounds like high CO2, as gbolduev mentioned CO2 goes especially high during sleep.

How did your fast affect this?
 

Orion

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This sounds like high CO2, as gbolduev mentioned CO2 goes especially high during sleep.

How did your fast affect this?

Night breathing was better during the fast, and was doing better first couple weeks post fast. But I am back to one nostril always being congested during sleep, which clears after waking. Also had a sinus cold the last few days which doesn't help either.
 

Canari

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I think most congestion goes away when we get up and breathe more.
and I forgot about glucose levels, as they also affect ACh.

Then think that ACh is triggered by the para-sympathetic system, and that this system is more at work at night, because it is a resting state.

And more CO2 also triggers a more para-sympathetic state. Thus holotropic breathing when waking up! And Buteyko to go to sleep....
 

galio23

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I think the hormone forum was best adequated, because ACh is a hormone.

Only in sinus? Nicotine multiplies ACh receptors in general I think.

I also suspect too high co2 as @Ewelina and I think most congestion goes away when we get up and breathe more. I have it too. Then it can be related to sinus and teethgums prolem?

For ACh, do you eat egg yolks? I eat 3 per day... I eat 1 egg per meal having some fat.
Baccopa is a useful plant for ACh levels.
All hormones are related anyway.
Some drugs are anti-cholinergetic. Especially anti-histaminics.

Thinking about it and seeing the comments i think mine is CO2 related too. How should i interpret it ? Is this good or bad? How to fix it?
 

Canari

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If I understood well that co2 there is blood acidosis, and tissue alkalinity = slow oxi, then it has to be balanced globally. Then do some breathing in the morning, like this of breathing through one nostril and then the other, until both are as free as possible...
I started to write some breathing exercise but nobody seems interested. I think we should have a whole life-style forum instead of human body subcategory, and have some talks about how we breathe, eat, exercise etc.
Isn't is better to concentrate on health, more motivating that concentrate on specific issues? It's like seeing the bottle half empty or half full!
 

galio23

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If I understood well that co2 there is blood acidosis, and tissue alkalinity = slow oxi, then it has to be balanced globally. Then do some breathing in the morning, like this of breathing through one nostril and then the other, until both are as free as possible...
I started to write some breathing exercise but nobody seems interested. I think we should have a whole life-style forum instead of human body subcategory, and have some talks about how we breathe, eat, exercise etc.
Isn't is better to concentrate on health, more motivating that concentrate on specific issues? It's like seeing the bottle half empty or half full!

I agree totally!