ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

[wuf]

Another thing is, my hair loss was LARGELY kick-started by megadosing vitamin B5, in 2012.

I had great thick hair. 2 months into using that.... shed like crazy, and just continued to dwindle down... really ever recovered from it.

So the fact that I did it to myself (like you did with fin) is also what hurts.

If I had baldness in my family and whatnot, then sure.... but, looking at family history I should have great hair genes. I kickstarted my hair loss somehow with B5, and that is a hard pill to swallow.

So, get ready to imbalance your health because of your hair. If this is the way you want, go haead, no problem.
I wouldn't do since I lost my penis, my brain, my personality, my skills etc etc because of hair..... lucky you that you only have to swallow the hair pill.. we have much more pills to swallow)))
Good luck!

 

[Helen]

being bald is a mutation, at one point in your life you got to the point of missing some nutrient that the body had to mutate the organ, not the skin, but some organ. So now basically you live in the mutated state and it is a compensatory state. meaning shaky. this is what aging is , a mutation. to me it is unbalanced and not a healthy state . person will always need to compensate for it.

the only antimutate therapy I know is fasting and extreme fasting not some 10 days worthless stuff. LIke 100 days, or 50 days, after that you are reborn.

fasting is anti mutation thing. that is what RPF does not get. If you tell me your hair wont grow back after series of 50-100 days fasts. I would say NO WAY. It will. And you will look like you are in high school . Peat says that fasting breaks down heart, spleen kidney. Great, that is what I want. I want to fast to the point when fasting starts breaking down organs. Only then it works. All this 5- 10 day fasts to me are worthless and waste of time. Plus you need to be in the ocean while fasting, since body take what it needs to rebuild.

feeding the body nutrients from food in a mutated state, does not fix the mutation. Crazy manipulations are needed to change the mutation and you have to be really good at it. And have a lot of courage since to change the mutation you will need to do yourself harm . this is what ARL does. it harms you to get you better. And people never go by that. they go by things that make them feel good. Which to me is worthless in a mutated state.

In Russia every child knows if you get sick you just fast for 40 days. this is the first thing people do. Doctors will never fix your mutation. If you eat normally and you dont get balanced to the point of having a strong buffer and your hair does not grow back. You are mutated, there is no question about it. It is an accelerated aging path now , since any mutation will cause an imbalance and if you smart enough you can compensate for imbalance, but it is never compensated to the full extent.

 

[freeflow]

Haha, okay guys, hair loss case closed, we will be happy mutants without PFS!
Gbold you had 2 serious cancers which easily motivate you to do very long fasts, but people with hairloss will never do a 50 day fast, good to know its the way out but still most people's life situation or will power wont be there to accomplish this.

 

[Helen]

Haha, okay guys, hair loss case closed, we will be happy mutants without PFS!
Gbold you had 2 serious cancers which easily motivate you to do very long fasts, but people with hairloss will never do a 50 day fast, good to know its the way out but still most people's life situation or will power wont be there to accomplish this.

The thing is fasting cures PFS also.

basically fasting is anti aging. You are reborn, and rebuilding just like a kid. I think aging is you carrying all these mutations on you . You look older and older, and you get bald and you get wrinkly skin. But after 2-3 series of long fasts. Your skin and you will be young again. your hair will grow, your skin will glow. to me fasting and swimming in the ocean is the best anti aging there is.

People just eat garbage , and then they build their kidney heart etc with mutated aminos. but once you are in the mutated state, eating healthy does nothing. need to fast first and fast extreme.

 

[freeflow]

The thing is fasting cures PFS also.

yep, there was an italian guy who did a 29 day water fast and got cured.
So a good 30 days of water is needed, my 13 days of water was not enough yet i experienced some very strong personality gains during it but not to 100% for sure.

 

[mattyb]

@gbolduev

Outside of your own personal experience, I'm wondering why you think 40 days of continuous fasting is necessary for autophagotic processes and tissue renewal? Tons of animal research has been done in this area, and autophagosomes are detectable in multiple sites throughout the body after even 24-48 hour fasts. What do you think is the physiological difference between say, 15 three day fasts over a year vs. one 40-day fast once per year?

I see the need for aggressive 40-day fasts when people have terminal or debilitating disorders that require immediate attention. But for things like hair loss, which don't require immediate attention and can be dealt with more slowly, I don't see why we can't opt for solutions that aren't so disruptive to regular people's lives. Not everyone can afford the time and loss of energy to fast for 40 days and move to the coast to swim in the ocean.

 

[Helen]

@gbolduev

Outside of your own personal experience, I'm wondering why you think 40 days of continuous fasting is necessary for autophagotic processes and tissue renewal? Tons of animal research has been done in this area, and autophagosomes are detectable in multiple sites throughout the body after even 24-48 hour fasts. What do you think is the physiological difference between say, 15 three day fasts over a year vs. one 40-day fast once per year?

I see the need for aggressive 40-day fasts when people have terminal or debilitating disorders that require immediate attention. But for things like hair loss, which don't require immediate attention and can be dealt with more slowly, I don't see why we can't opt for solutions that aren't so disruptive to regular people's lives. Not everyone can afford the time and loss of energy to fast for 40 days and move to the coast to swim in the ocean.

Matty, i fasted long and short fasts, short fasts don't do anything in my opinion at all. I think it starts after day 25. After second acidic crisis.

I dont even get a crisis until day 15. first crisis to me is day 15. second crisis day 25-27( this is when the fast starts working. ) and last crisis when you quit. day 45-50. I am talking water fast. Breuss you need 60-70 days.

I tried to fast short fasts first, it does not work. It does not renew you . When I started to go over 40 days, that is when mutations were gone. Like it actually changed you.

I think short fasts are ok, but not for anti mutation. they are ok to clean your body and have less stress from toxins like ammonia etc . but to me it did nothing for regeneration.

I think it is better to wait and find some time for a 40 day fast, then do many 10 day fasts. one 40 days fast does it, but 3 - 10 days fasts , do absolutely nothing . This is in my personal experience.



to me baldness is the same mutation as cancer strength wise. So I think it needs the same organ renewal degree to get fixed.

Some people fast to kill cancer or infection. I fasted to get the mutation out so my body could kill the cancer later on its own.

 

[mattyb]

Matty, i fasted long and short fasts, short fasts don't do anything in my opinion at all. I think it starts after day 25. After second acidic crisis.

I dont even get a crisis until day 15. first crisis to me is day 15. second crisis day 25-27( this is when the fast starts working. ) and last crisis when you quit. day 45-50. I am talking water fast. Breuss you need 60-70 days.

I tried to fast short fasts first, it does not work. It does not renew you . When I started to go over 40 days, that is when mutations were gone. Like it actually changed you.

I think short fasts are ok, but not for anti mutation. they are ok to clean your body and have less stress from toxins like ammonia etc . but to me it did nothing for regeneration.

I think it is better to wait and find some time for a 40 day fast, then do many 10 day fasts. one 40 days fast does it, but 3 - 10 days fasts , do absolutely nothing . This is in my personal experience.

Okay, but the question was in regards to outside of your own personal experience.

You are telling people to do something pretty extreme. It may not be extreme to you, but it is to everyone else. For people to buy-in, this requires immense desperation on their part or extremely compelling evidence of efficacy. I mean, only one person on this forum has fasted for as long as you and the results are good but by no means extraordinary - Orion finished a 54-day Breuss fast doing everything right but is still shedding hair and dealing with oily skin.

 

[Helen]

Okay, but the question was in regards to outside of your own personal experience.

You are telling people to do something pretty extreme. It may not be extreme to you, but it is to everyone else. For people to buy-in, this requires immense desperation on their part or extremely compelling evidence of efficacy. I mean, only one person on this forum has fasted for as long as you and the results are good but by no means extraordinary - Orion finished a 54-day Breuss fast doing everything right but is still shedding hair and dealing with oily skin.

I cant say outside of my personal experience, No one knows this until you try it out yourself. You need to do one 40 day fast, brother, and see for yourself. one day. I am not telling them to do the fasts, I am just saying that this is what worked for me. and worked good.

I bet if Orion does series of fasts for 1.5 years. he will forget about any disease or imbalance. It will totally rebuild him. Also liver flushes.

 

[health]

@gbolduev

Do you think such a 40+ days water fast would also help with PSSD and post-TRT problems (0 libido, 0 stomach acid)?

I'm just refeeding after my 1st 7 days water fast and besides slight improvements with skin and digestion - no other effects.

If such sacrifice is needed, then I'd go for it 100%

 

[Helen]

I am trying to balance couple of people for PFS now. when they are done, they will post here. Scenes already posted , when Tubzy is done , he will post. but I want to make sure, we just did not find some stilt and fed it instead of fixing the issue @wuf.

 

[Admiral]

Somehow betaine HCL and any sort or combination of amino’s is giving me constant nocturnal erections. Not hating it.

 

[wuf]

being bald is a mutation, at one point in your life you got to the point of missing some nutrient that the body had to mutate the organ, not the skin, but some organ. So now basically you live in the mutated state and it is a compensatory state. meaning shaky. this is what aging is , a mutation. to me it is unbalanced and not a healthy state . person will always need to compensate for it.

the only antimutate therapy I know is fasting and extreme fasting not some 10 days worthless stuff. LIke 100 days, or 50 days, after that you are reborn.

fasting is anti mutation thing. that is what RPF does not get. If you tell me your hair wont grow back after series of 50-100 days fasts. I would say NO WAY. It will. And you will look like you are in high school . Peat says that fasting breaks down heart, spleen kidney. Great, that is what I want. I want to fast to the point when fasting starts breaking down organs. Only then it works. All this 5- 10 day fasts to me are worthless and waste of time. Plus you need to be in the ocean while fasting, since body take what it needs to rebuild.

feeding the body nutrients from food in a mutated state, does not fix the mutation. Crazy manipulations are needed to change the mutation and you have to be really good at it. And have a lot of courage since to change the mutation you will need to do yourself harm . this is what ARL does. it harms you to get you better. And people never go by that. they go by things that make them feel good. Which to me is worthless in a mutated state.

In Russia every child knows if you get sick you just fast for 40 days. this is the first thing people do. Doctors will never fix your mutation. If you eat normally and you dont get balanced to the point of having a strong buffer and your hair does not grow back. You are mutated, there is no question about it. It is an accelerated aging path now , since any mutation will cause an imbalance and if you smart enough you can compensate for imbalance, but it is never compensated to the full extent.

I got what you say.
But by your reply, than an adult person is mutated cause 30 years ago this person was a kid just 1.30 cm tall and 45kg wegth. LOL
by the way I keep waiting and hope you can fix me as well.
I have 1 more question: I just got candida from sex. What should I do to kill it?
I am using special antifungal on my genital,is it right and enough?

 

[Slayo]

i have done a 10 days water fast with some therapies like hydro colon, vapour sauna, clay patches on liver and kidney etc......the day i stopped it i felt a new person, i was feeling my body healing from pfs and the constant red scalp on my head went away as well as hair loss stopped completly, i wasn't finding any hair in my shower while previously i was loosing a lot, also the hairs were thicker, but once i started eating normally again in a couple of days everything reversed, so i believe water fasting is very powerfull but you need to do it for lots of days and with also other theraphies during it to speed up the process

 

[Slayo]

howewer this doesn't explain why women even if they are very unbalanced eating junk foods, drinkin alchool, using toxic make up, etc don't loose hairs meaning they don't have receeding hair line and don't get hair thinning to the degree of what males get. @gbolduev any idea ? Do you think the theory about hairs being androgen sensitive is right ? I don't think so because androgens are necessary for hair health, but if so i don't know why women don't loose hairs generally

 

[Helen]

howewer this doesn't explain why women even if they are very unbalanced eating junk foods, drinkin alchool, using toxic make up, etc don't loose hairs meaning they don't have receeding hair line and don't get hair thinning to the degree of what males get. @gbolduev any idea ? Do you think the theory about hairs being androgen sensitive is right ? I don't think so because androgens are necessary for hair health, but if so i don't know why women don't loose hairs generally

Are you serious? women lose tons of hair. and have the same alopecia cases just like men. Especially after they go menopausal. and retain iron.

 

[Slayo]

yes, i'm serious, i'm saying look at them, i haven't seen much girls loosing their hair line aging, and i haven't seen women becoming bald like men do (except in rare cases when there are disseases), so why so much difference ? Why generally women retain their hair line and loose much less hair quality than men ?

 

[Orion]

I bet if Orion does series of fasts for 1.5 years. he will forget about any disease or imbalance. It will totally rebuild him. Also liver flushes.

Planning liver flushes starting soon, curious to see what effect they will have. Was planning a 14 day water fast in May 2018, but maybe I will push it to 40 day water fast. Have to see how I am physically when I get there, these long fasts do drop lots of weight, people get quite shocked how gaunt you look so quickly. My strength has come back quickly and so has my muscle definition from lifting, in a much better place with respect to body composition.

I do have faith in fasting though, 54 day Bruess fast eradicated the acne on my back/chest completely, skin looks so nice! Cleared up my face, but just dealing with oily skin coming back, which means acne will most likely return. My shedding increased when I experimented with copper after the long fast, I have stopped all supplements for now, and will see how I respond in the coming weeks. I am 1 month post long fast.

 

[Aleksandr]

I agree with most of this. We all need a reminder every now and then that aging is normal and perfectly fine. Not everyone is perfect, and often people who appear perfect on the outside aren't actually perfect. My ex-girlfriend was super lucky that she always looked good, she could stay very lean despite eating junk food all the time. At least that's what most people saw. She actually had IBD, and this is what kept her lean - her nutrient absorption was so poor the food never made it's way in. Everyone, even perfect people, carry their own hidden burdens and almost no ones life or health is really perfect.

I think being bald just shows that at one time you were imbalanced. Shedding is imbalance. But being bald and not shedding doesn't speak to your current state - I lost most of my hair about +8 years ago. But I haven't shed anymore hair since then and other than a 1.5 year hiccup in between I have been perfectly healthy and happy.

I think once you are bald, the hair doesn't come back with balance. I think it requires more to regrow hair than just balancing yourself.

Matty has your gf fixed her IBS? What did she do for it?

 

[Aleksandr]

Planning liver flushes starting soon, curious to see what effect they will have. Was planning a 14 day water fast in May 2018, but maybe I will push it to 40 day water fast. Have to see how I am physically when I get there, these long fasts do drop lots of weight, people get quite shocked how gaunt you look so quickly. My strength has come back quickly and so has my muscle definition from lifting, in a much better place with respect to body composition.

I do have faith in fasting though, 54 day Bruess fast eradicated the acne on my back/chest completely, skin looks so nice! Cleared up my face, but just dealing with oily skin coming back, which means acne will most likely return. My shedding increased when I experimented with copper after the long fast, I have stopped all supplements for now, and will see how I respond in the coming weeks. I am 1 month post long fast.

1 month on, is your tongue still clear?

Damn @gbolduev making fasting sound so enticing. I am 12.5% body fat right now. You can basically see my abs. I dont think id survive a 40 day water fast!!! Would i have a better shot doing something like this?:

End of jan: 5 day fast

End of march: 10 day fast

End of may: 20 day fast

End of august: 40 day water fast. The do one 40 day water fast a year until symptoms go away?

Would that work better? The initial fasts get my body cortisol sensitive and thyroid down, so i dont eat myself?


Or would it be better to eat like a horse, gain 10kg, then begin the fast? (Im worried actually that this would upregulate my thyroid more, and flare my IBS)