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So you, @Boris and myself are in the same boat. Same thing here with the stressful event. So one thing is for sure, neurosteroids are depleted. This is evident in all PFS people, especially the ones who committed suicide. Their allopreg levels are incredibly low. Likely this also has a lot to...

@Walker @Boris What do you mean by dipping? Is this the PaulWalker that took GHB and cured themselves or?

I just find that people who have success from the phenibut, bacolfen etc, it stops working after some time. Yes you can definitely become addicted and have withdrawals from GHB, but only if you are dosing multiple times per day, every day. Users who use it to sleep, a few times a week, don't...

@Boris Its difficult for me to understand your 2 latest posts here, in a nutshell, what's the summary? What is GHB doing that could be helping us?

This makes sense. If fin is a progestin which mimics progesterone...it could shut down natural progesterone production. Then this fake progesterone (fin) also cannot convert to cortisol. Stressful events = death. In addition, with 5ar inhibition, it prevents what small amounts of cortisol that...

I never took cortisol or prednisone. To be honest I was a daily coffee consumer. It wasn't until I stopped coffee completely that I began to recover. However I had cortisol tests and I had normal cortisol levels, maybe slightly elevated but nothing extreme. I have not tried phenibut. I want to...

Wow, you are literally in the same boat as me. Right after the crash my sleep was fucked and wrecked. Now in the last 1 year it's recovered. It's not 100% but I am not longer chronically fatigued and thinking "I got no sleep". So, I know my sleep has improved decently. I recovered the most when...

Gamma-hydroxybutyrate enhances mood and prosocial behavior without affecting plasma oxytocin and testosterone. - PubMed - NCBI This study shows that GHB did not increase ACTH, but the dose was only 20mg/kg body weight. Maybe higher doses of 3-5 grams at a time are needed, such as the ones to...

@Helen based on what you said earlier...please tell me if I am correct.. I am a fast oxidizer, as I crashed ON finasteride, which means I have no cortisol? Then my Cortisol receptor is over expressed? So GHB is increasing my cortisol, and causing the receptor to downregulate? That's why I...

Also, I think the benefits far outweigh the toxic risks. You can make your own GHB from GBL. You just need some sodium hydroxide...Can find recipes online

Yes the study shows that GHB acts on GABA B, but it indirectly acts on GABA A due to the increase in allopreg, which is acting on the GABA A

So for myself, I won't know exactly because I never did any of these tests. But I know I crashed while I was ON finasteride after several stressful events. I was also taking progesterone in the very beginning when I was taking finasteride. I took finasteride in October 2015, 1.25mg , along with...

Can't say, it's a highly illegal substance. If you really want it you can find it.

I don't know. I will need to get them tested. I plan on it soon. My T in 2018 was 700-900, cortisol seemed normal, I dont know my DHT though. I want to go for a full panel soon.

I've only ever seen 2 or 3...I don't count myself as cured but it certainly helped... Perhaps PFS and neurosteroids are because the body is in a chronically stressed state. Common issue with PFS people is they have zero ability to cope with stress. Another MAJOR common factor is most PFS...

I also want to add that I've had days where I felt 100% completed cured. Sex drive good and mental clarity and happiness 100%. There are some specific days I remember... The latest ones was where I would take about 15 grams of Glycine before bed. It would give me shitty sleep but I would feel...

This is certainly a factor. The problem is it's so hard to test neurosteroids on live subjects. You're playing in the dark. This is what a lot of people from raypeat forums are talking about. For myself, I have a libido, dick works fine, although my sex drive is not as high as it used to be, it...