Well, I crashed myself unfortunately. Any advice for what to do in the midst of a crash that helps You? Just looking for some advice and some support. Haven't been able to sleep at all these last few days, my body won't let me fall asleep or stay asleep for more than an hour or two, typical crash stuff. What do you do during a crash?
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Well we just saw @Concerned really make some good strides from fasting only a week or so after his PFS crash. Also, in my instances when I mess myself up with something fasting for a day or two really usually "normalizes" me back to baseline.
I'd just do it if you're that bad of shape man. Whether its 1,3, 5, 10, 21 days. Just get one done. Another dude on solvepfs Gibson has done the same type of stuff- fasting when things go wrong.
I'd just do it if you're that bad of shape man. Whether its 1,3, 5, 10, 21 days. Just get one done. Another dude on solvepfs Gibson has done the same type of stuff- fasting when things go wrong.
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Phosphatidylserine, oleamide, ziziphus, and l-theanine is my magic stack for sleep. My sleep has been really good recently, but that stack got me through some really rough times. Also, any rigorous exercise makes things much worse for me during a crashed state, but yoga and long walks help a lot. Also getting lots of sun.
Did ARL supps crash you? For my first 3 weeks on ARL supps all of my symptoms were worse on most days, including sleep, but now after a month and a half I'm sleeping much better than I was prior to ARL.
Did ARL supps crash you? For my first 3 weeks on ARL supps all of my symptoms were worse on most days, including sleep, but now after a month and a half I'm sleeping much better than I was prior to ARL.
Thanks guys, I'll fast for a day and get a good reset. I tried to normalize my sleep schedule, I work a lot of night shifts and I can feel it wearing on me. I think this crash was a combo of taking high dose lic a week or so ago, starting arl and not getting sleep. It's amazing how fast I can go from being in great shape to being in nightmare mode.
Feeling much better now after having to take the benzo route and passing the fuck out
Any thoughts on Xanax? I know we want to stay away from pharmas, but idk if I was gonna make it through yesterday without, quickly got me on my feet. I'll definitely try your stack niles
Feeling much better now after having to take the benzo route and passing the fuck out
Any thoughts on Xanax? I know we want to stay away from pharmas, but idk if I was gonna make it through yesterday without, quickly got me on my feet. I'll definitely try your stack niles
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@Rid... why the xanax again? Bc of sleep or anxiety? gotta be something else, like melatonin, nootropics, etc.
Benzos are one of the few things I never took (probably, maybe ativan a long time ago, made me extremely depressed threw it away - I was like 21).
I am not sure what's good for sleep, bc I get bad reactions or no reaction to melatonin, ashwagandha, and all that stuff (way before fin).
Most people have more normal rxns to those though. Melatonin was sometimes ok.... but if I wanted to sleep at 3am, I'd need to take it at like 10pm or something.
I'm doing tons of business at night (NY, asia, etc hours). So I feel your pain on that.... then again, I've always been like that. But I'm sure further along, it'll be easier. And more normalized. Slept like 5-6 days almost 7-8 hrs that hasn't happened in like 2 yrs all that often.
I think Phosphatidylserine as Niles suggested is worth trying, probably a lot of other things too, maybe Alpha-GPC (by Cognitex, which has GPC and phosphatidylserine too).
-L-Theanine does help me sleep a lot (which is good but not really my goal), but it may be too strong and doesn't help my mood much, so I barely use it.
Benzos are one of the few things I never took (probably, maybe ativan a long time ago, made me extremely depressed threw it away - I was like 21).
I am not sure what's good for sleep, bc I get bad reactions or no reaction to melatonin, ashwagandha, and all that stuff (way before fin).
Most people have more normal rxns to those though. Melatonin was sometimes ok.... but if I wanted to sleep at 3am, I'd need to take it at like 10pm or something.
I'm doing tons of business at night (NY, asia, etc hours). So I feel your pain on that.... then again, I've always been like that. But I'm sure further along, it'll be easier. And more normalized. Slept like 5-6 days almost 7-8 hrs that hasn't happened in like 2 yrs all that often.
I think Phosphatidylserine as Niles suggested is worth trying, probably a lot of other things too, maybe Alpha-GPC (by Cognitex, which has GPC and phosphatidylserine too).
-L-Theanine does help me sleep a lot (which is good but not really my goal), but it may be too strong and doesn't help my mood much, so I barely use it.
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I know you were doing multiple things but ARL in itself can make you feel like crap and cause insomnia, it has for me andany others (check out the logs @Niles @brix) that is normal to feel that way given all of the reactions. However if you were doing high dose licorice root, that in itself can give you similar symptoms too.
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I feel for you! When we are good we can feel so much on the good track and "I am fine now"! Working night shifts is taxing on the body, a lot.
I guess you have no solution for this or else you would have already changed job... I think fasting is good indeed for all that has to do with cortisol cycles. It helped me a lot to use only red light in the evening, also try to find something for computer screen. Getting sun in the morning is also helping to regularise and prepare already the sleep of the next evening.
I guess you have no solution for this or else you would have already changed job... I think fasting is good indeed for all that has to do with cortisol cycles. It helped me a lot to use only red light in the evening, also try to find something for computer screen. Getting sun in the morning is also helping to regularise and prepare already the sleep of the next evening.