Amino Acids & Hair

JonnyCraig

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"In a paper regarding evidence based guidelines in the treatment of alopecia for both women and men (Blumeyer et al.), various amino acids are mentioned with a special mention for cysteine. Cysteine is considered to be one of the main factors involved in hair growth.

The group that also followed the dietary supplement had a 50% increase in hair growth.

The paper cites a study (Morganti et al.) where there was a significant mean change of total hair count in both male and female patients after a treatment containing cysteine.
The participants had to take an oral supplement that contained cysteine, copper, zinc and histidine 4 times a day for 50 weeks and the treatment group had remarkable results with their anagen rate."

"The amount of cysteine in a hair fibre is an indicator of the hairs health. (J Cell Biol. 1990) In various animals, cysteine, along with other amino-acids and proteins, can protect hair and feathers and help them establish mechanical resilience. (Strasser et al., 2015)"

"Another study suggests that l-cysteine prevents the reduction in keratin synthesis induced by iron deficiency in human keratinocytes. It seems that l-cysteine promotes an important up regulation of keratins expression in the de novo protein synthesis and it counteracts the adverse effect of iron deficiency in keratin expression. (Miniaci et al., 2016)"

"The groups of mice received three dose levels of l-cysteine and vitamin B6 daily. Vitamin B6 was used due to its important role in incorporating l-cysteine in hair cells. After 6 months of exposure, the results showed that mice receiving the most l-cysteine/vitamin B6 doses had less hair loss, concluding that oral administration of vitamin B6 and l-cysteine may be an effective preventive treatment in alopecia. (D’Agostini et al., 2007)"
 

JonnyCraig

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Alanine seems to be super important as well (not to be confused with Beta-Alanine).

Histidine, BCAA's..serum folate levels (this is huge, 91% of people with MPHL had low serum folate levels in this study)..copper, also.

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Aleksandr

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Really it just sounds like we have to eat a lot and betain hcl it up in this motherfucker

@gbolduev did you say betaine hcl lowers potassium? Whenever i take hcl now its like ive taken a sleeping drug. Im completely knocked out. But i haven'tbeen taking potassium with it sibce my hairtest showed normalish potassium
 

TubZy

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Really it just sounds like we have to eat a lot and betain hcl it up in this motherfucker

@gbolduev did you say betaine hcl lowers potassium? Whenever i take hcl now its like ive taken a sleeping drug. Im completely knocked out. But i haven'tbeen taking potassium with it sibce my hairtest showed normalish potassium

Basically, I mean if you aren't absorbing shit in the first place nothing will increase lol.

Yes, try taking it with potassium chloride though.
 

mattyb

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Really it just sounds like we have to eat a lot and betain hcl it up in this motherfucker

@gbolduev did you say betaine hcl lowers potassium? Whenever i take hcl now its like ive taken a sleeping drug. Im completely knocked out. But i haven'tbeen taking potassium with it sibce my hairtest showed normalish potassium

Chloride, sodium, magnesium and potassium are the easiest to lose minerals through urine/sweat (in that order, from easiest to less easy). So high potassium in hair means nothing, the kidneys can ditch potassium super easily, and therefore total body concentrations can decrease very quickly. Minerals that are present in high quantities in sea water are lost the easiest.
 

Aleksandr

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Chloride, sodium, magnesium and potassium are the easiest to lose minerals through urine/sweat (in that order, from easiest to less easy). So high potassium in hair means nothing, the kidneys can ditch potassium super easily, and therefore total body concentrations can decrease very quickly. Minerals that are present in high quantities in sea water are lost the easiest.
I wonder if we could craft the ultimate sports drink:

What ratios would we use? How much chloride? How much sodium? how much magnesium, potassium?

Today when I played tennis (ive been feeling lightheaded/weak/ dizzy from playing) I took some salt with me and just licked a bit whenever I felt weird. Gave me very dry lips but seemed to help my performance! It still felt like something was missing though. I guess it was the magnesium and potassium.
 

Legna88

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I wonder if we could craft the ultimate sports drink:

What ratios would we use? How much chloride? How much sodium? how much magnesium, potassium?

Today when I played tennis (ive been feeling lightheaded/weak/ dizzy from playing) I took some salt with me and just licked a bit whenever I felt weird. Gave me very dry lips but seemed to help my performance! It still felt like something was missing though. I guess it was the magnesium and potassium.

@m_arch u must drink water with salt! u did not watch the video about unprocessed sea salt and athletic performance?
 

Aleksandr

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@m_arch u must drink water with salt! u did not watch the video about unprocessed sea salt and athletic performance?
Yeah I was drinking water too, not just having salt lol
 

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JDreamer

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My observation may be completely off-base and other factors may be contributing - but my hair seems to be getting worse after 5 months or so of ditching protein supplements in favor of a BCAA regimen. The recession along my hair line has sped up significantly over that timeframe.

I should note I also dropped pretty much all other pill supplements within the last couple months. Of course my stomach is still terrible and Betaine HCL pills don't seem to be doing much.

This is the BCAA I'm on at the moment: Scivation Xtend Elite (30 servings)
 
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opiath

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Don't take BCAA man.
It will kill the levels of tryptophan, tyrosine & histidine in the CNS and then you are left with no serotonin, dopamine, adrenaline and histamine where you need them most.
 

JDreamer

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Don't take BCAA man.
It will kill the levels of tryptophan, tyrosine & histidine in the CNS and then you are left with no serotonin, dopamine, adrenaline and histamine where you need them most.

Understood. Guess I'll have to ditch it.

Ya, I generally speaking just don't feel nearly as well. I also find it a lot harder to wake up in the morning. I used to be on a mix of Tyrosine and either B3 or B6 (can't remember) in an attempt to raise dopamine. Hair was doing better, but I was a bit more agitated than I would've preferred.
 

opiath

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@JDreamer
If you have problems digesting protein look up Dymatize iso 100 hydrolyzed whey protein.
Very easy to digest mixed with water and 500-1000mg HCL.
 

JDreamer

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@JDreamer
If you have problems digesting protein look up Dymatize iso 100 hydrolyzed whey protein.
Very easy to digest mixed with water and 500-1000mg HCL.

I have digestion problems in general. It's made it difficult to get the necessary calories I need and maintain muscle mass.