BeLikeWater PFS blog (Ella, Pine Pollen, Spinachs, ...)

BeLikeWater

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Hello 7 years of suffering, 1 year of minoxidil at 2% followed byt 1.5 years of finas + minox, followed by 1.5 years of minox at 5%.

I have suffered all symptoms possible looking at propeciahelp.com list of symptoms.

I have never got flu once since this hell, I usually had flu every year before that.

I have got much better mentally since quitting gluten from my diet, and sexually also, my hypothesis is that gluten is absorbed into blood stream and our inmune system is hyperreactive and it generates a lot of inmune and inflammation reaction also in the brain.

Getting success with antiinflamattory diet, probiotics, etc..
Getting success with spinachs, brocoli..
Tomato Juice and Bananas do something for the libido (had my first natural libido surge after eating a banana after long time not eating those)

Huge one day success with ingestion of Mediterranean Pine Pollen:
Ingesterion of this pollen (2gr) and followed by masturbation, activated te primal dominant part of sexual fantasizing that was completly inhibited by finsateride, after not ejaculating and going outside, everything was brighter, I was happy, people respected myself in a different but possitive way, girls noticed me more and different way, I saw the world like pre-fin pre-minox, that night much more interested in porn. After that everything went downhill but ok, Im feeling better.



17th May 2018:

Took Ella 10mg (1/3 of a pill) at 20pm, I had the common symtpoms palpitations, and insomnia, I had very good feelings when i wokeup in the middle of the night, in the morning I had to stay on bed until 12am (im freelancer so no need to go to work).

2 days have passed by, the only things to report is taking beer put me in a lowered libido state, and music is sounding a little bit better. I have experience with music sounding better with taking progesterone and taking 5DHP, so I guess is something related with a better progesterone action (rebound effect), feeling maybe a little less femenin.

Im planning to not take any more ella at least until a month has passed, i have been inspired by RWAC and PFStinks later success, also with Aztec success.

btw also is very interesting that we have a 100% recovery that has stick 4 months for now, by just taking 20mg Oxandrolone from PrimusRay Laboratories, its debatable that the compound is the same as its announced, but I find that recovery extremly interesting because it has a lot of similarities with Ella


STUDIES:

5AR fails to return to baseline levels!I found PFS on pubmed
 
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Jack17

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Have you considered trying low dose progesterone after Ella. With the half life of Ella I’d wait 6 days, if u were considering it.
 

BeLikeWater

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Have you considered trying low dose progesterone after Ella. With the half life of Ella I’d wait 6 days, if u were considering it.
Why I would like to do that? If I take Ella to upregulate progesterone receptors.... I took progesterone and made me estrogen dominant after quitting it, not a good place to be ... so femenin brain.
 

tonysoprano

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What is this oxandrolone that you speak of
 
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IHateFin

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Hello 7 years of suffering, 1 year of minoxidil at 2% followed byt 1.5 years of finas + minox, followed by 1.5 years of minox at 5%.

I have suffered all symptoms possible looking at propeciahelp.com list of symptoms.

I have never got flu once since this hell, I usually had flu every year before that.

I have got much better mentally since quitting gluten from my diet, and sexually also, my hypothesis is that gluten is absorbed into blood stream and our inmune system is hyperreactive and it generates a lot of inmune and inflammation reaction also in the brain.

Getting success with antiinflamattory diet, probiotics, etc..
Getting success with spinachs, brocoli..
Tomato Juice and Bananas do something for the libido (had my first natural libido surge after eating a banana after long time not eating those)

Huge one day success with ingestion of Mediterranean Pine Pollen:
Ingesterion of this pollen (2gr) and followed by masturbation, activated te primal dominant part of sexual fantasizing that was completly inhibited by finsateride, after not ejaculating and going outside, everything was brighter, I was happy, people respected myself in a different but possitive way, girls noticed me more and different way, I saw the world like pre-fin pre-minox, that night much more interested in porn. After that everything went downhill but ok, Im feeling better.



17th May 2018:

Took Ella 10mg (1/3 of a pill) at 20pm, I had the common symtpoms palpitations, and insomnia, I had very good feelings when i wokeup in the middle of the night, in the morning I had to stay on bed until 12am (im freelancer so no need to go to work).

2 days have passed by, the only things to report is taking beer put me in a lowered libido state, and music is sounding a little bit better. I have experience with music sounding better with taking progesterone and taking 5DHP, so I guess is something related with a better progesterone action (rebound effect), feeling maybe a little less femenin.

Im planning to not take any more ella at least until a month has passed, i have been inspired by RWAC and PFStinks later success, also with Aztec success.

btw also is very interesting that we have a 100% recovery that has stick 4 months for now, by just taking 20mg Oxandrolone from PrimusRay Laboratories, its debatable that the compound is the same as its announced, but I find that recovery extremly interesting because it has a lot of similarities with Ella

Someone here recovered from anavar? Who was it? I am curious to read their log
 

MNK99

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-What similarities does ulipristal acetate have with oxandrolone? Directed @ belikewater (lower case for you).
-wtf man.
-oh maybe I misread you. MAYBE you mean, the recovery has similarities, but not the compound itself. That makes more sense. Still not a lot.

Actually, as per Ihatefin and Tubzy you may be on to something. If It made things better and got me permanently ripped, but did not hurt hair, I'd be down. Easy to get too compared to some things.
 
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BeLikeWater

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Someone here recovered from anavar? Who was it? I am curious to read their log

Yeah he has no log is a Spanish user, complete recovery including the way alcohol intake affects him (pre pfs), I have had a similar experiences 2 days ago, drinking 2 beers and it was amazing, I had buzz for first time in years, drink it yesterday and not like that more like pfs, seems a bit varying.
 

BeLikeWater

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Im feeling ok this days, having some Tinder Dates, some constipation that diesnt go ( I think this is good ), girls seem extremly atractive to me (seem very pretty). Also I have found that when masturbating is difficlt for me to achieve orgasm lately. Also my work as programmer is completly wrecked as I cannot find motivation for it and cant focus (dont know if its related). One person in the group has made blood test and found that he had above higher range the "Transpeptid Phosphatase Alkaline" I dont know if that is related with us.
 

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Yeah he has no log is a Spanish user, complete recovery including the way alcohol intake affects him (pre pfs), I have had a similar experiences 2 days ago, drinking 2 beers and it was amazing, I had buzz for first time in years, drink it yesterday and not like that more like pfs, seems a bit varying.

I posted some studies about anavar on things like cortisol sensivity before here on the forum a while back. Would be interesting to hear the full the details behind what exactly he did.
 

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Yeah he has no log is a Spanish user, complete recovery including the way alcohol intake affects him (pre pfs), I have had a similar experiences 2 days ago, drinking 2 beers and it was amazing, I had buzz for first time in years, drink it yesterday and not like that more like pfs, seems a bit varying.


You tried anavar too?

I'm interested in Ella a bit more these days. Someone said anavar had similar effects... interesting
 

BeLikeWater

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You tried anavar too?

I'm interested in Ella a bit more these days. Someone said anavar had similar effects... interesting

No I did not try Anavar, who said Anavar got similar effects? Im interested.

I can say I can masturbate more often, bcause body somehow ask for it. Its been more than 12 days since I have taken Ella, uring this 10 days, I had the same "fatigue" that other users commented, what I consider it, is more the need to sleep more that has affected me.

Greetings

BeLikeWater
 

MNK99

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Literally every single brain affecting drug, neurotransmitter, and hormone affecting drug (I mean real drugs not minor not vitamins or snake oil) can cause memory problems. I'm fairly certain Ella caused me some memory issues it was temporary.
 
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BeLikeWater

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Near one month after my ELLA pill:

- Im not cured
- I have noticed increased sleep time (it happened to me also while I was on progesterone cream) so maybe its related
- I also feel I have very low dopamine: No motivation, very slow movements, only easy tasks, depresión etc..
- I have noticed extremly por memory I dont know why

I maybe going to try Anavar...
 

BeLikeWater

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I posted some studies about anavar on things like cortisol sensivity before here on the forum a while back. Would be interesting to hear the full the details behind what exactly he did.

Tubzy I have talked with him again, he did exactly this:

- 50 tables of 10mg "Primus Ray" Oxandrolone (Anavar)

He started with some pills here and there but he was afraid of sides, then later he went 20mg/30mg everyday until he finished it in 2/3 weeks, he claims to be completly recovered 5 months right now.
 

tonysoprano

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Tubzy I have talked with him again, he did exactly this:

- 50 tables of 10mg "Primus Ray" Oxandrolone (Anavar)

He started with some pills here and there but he was afraid of sides, then later he went 20mg/30mg everyday until he finished it in 2/3 weeks, he claims to be completly recovered 5 months right now.
How does one obtain anavar
 

snowball

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Near one month after my ELLA pill:

- Im not cured
- I have noticed increased sleep time (it happened to me also while I was on progesterone cream) so maybe its related
- I also feel I have very low dopamine: No motivation, very slow movements, only easy tasks, depresión etc..
- I have noticed extremly por memory I dont know why

I maybe going to try Anavar...
From when you started noticing memory issues? Within few days? Weeks?

I have not heard any negative sides like this before (Ella or RU) from anyone so far..wondering if you took anything else before or after this cycle that might be affecting it?
 

BeLikeWater

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From when you started noticing memory issues? Within few days? Weeks?

I have not heard any negative sides like this before (Ella or RU) from anyone so far..wondering if you took anything else before or after this cycle that might be affecting it?

Well I have Heard of "fatigue" post Ella, (needed to sleep more t han before) or other symptoms could be related to dopamine and YES I was taking inositol before Ella and stopped taking it while I was taking Ella, so answering your questions, that could be related definetly.

Greetings.
 

snowball

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Well I have Heard of "fatigue" post Ella, (needed to sleep more t han before) or other symptoms could be related to dopamine and YES I was taking inositol before Ella and stopped taking it while I was taking Ella, so answering your questions, that could be related definetly.

Greetings.
I was referring to memory issues NOT “fatigue”!!