Caprylic Acid and MCT Oil to augment androgen receptors like dutasteride?

[IHateFin]

check out some info i fount specifically a blog post:

Chemical Penis Enlargement: New Research Chemical: Caprylic Acid in MCT Oil

"in a previous post I describe my experimentation with dutasteride and dht gel. Dutasteride is used to reduce the body's total synthesis of dht by blocking the alpha-reductase enzyme from decomposing testosterone. By having an extended period of low dht levels, androgen receptors become starved for dht and when dht is actually given to them, it uses them in the optimal manner.

But MCT oil potentially augments local androgen receptors to overclock its transcription abilities (MCT oil is also an energy substrate in which the cells can use as fuel without convertion, which could account for its supercharging effect). If this is true, it may function better than dutasteride for its androgen receptor sensitizing capabilities."

Novel phytoandrogens and lipidic augmenters from Eucommia ulmoides

"The following bioactivities of E. ulmoides were found: (1) a phenomenal tripartite synergism exists between the sex steroid receptors (androgen and estrogen receptors), their cognate steroidal ligands and lipidic augmenters isolated from E. ulmoides, (2) phytoandrogenic activity of E. ulmoides was mediated by plant triterpenoids binding cognately to the androgen receptor (AR) ligand binding domain."

Caprylic Acid is what is found in Eucommia ulmoide. i think i will try this! if it can resensatize androgens the way dutasteride can then this would help us a ton no? anyone ever try this?

MCT oil:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073DWW45D/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_12?ie=UTF8&smid=A2X8GRLWLRY5WA&th=1

Caprylic Acid:
https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Encapsu...1Tz00FrlSL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/NOW-Caprylic...pID=51c9k4vFTrL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

[IHateFin]

Chemical Penis Enlargement: MCT Oil Penis Injections A Sucess

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george lopezMarch 13, 2014 at 11:35 PM

I don't know if you are still doing MCT injections, but I read your blog and I have begun to experiment with this. I have been doing PGE1 injections for two months and it is extremely painful and my erections only last for an hour at the most. So I bought a laso penis ring (the rubber ring with a bead at the base) and injected .5 ml MCT oil on each side. Within 2 minutes I had a the hardest erection I've ever had in my life and my girth and length was instantly increased. I am normally bpel 6" and 5.25 girth. After injection is was bpel 6.25 and 5.50 girth mid-shaft and about 6" at the base. I kept the ring on and masturbated to porn for over 30 min. then took of the ring for 5 min. I then reapplied the ring and masturbated for another 30 min. I continued this for about 2 hours until my penis was so internally sore I couldn't stand it. For the next two days the internal corpus cavernosum was extremely sore and at first I thought this was injection site soreness, but after further examination, I discovered that my entire internal structure of the CS was sore like after an intense workout. After three days the soreness abated with no loss of function of my penis. I have repeated this several more times, each time increasing the amount of oil injected. After a month, my erect penis with ring on is over 6.35 bpel and 6" width without injecting and my erection quality is awesome. I think the MCT oil injections are doing exactly what you say in your blog and they seem to be permanent.

PS - My wife who knows I'm doing this says thank you!

David"

 

[brix]

The lengths people will go... lol

 

[IHateFin]

The lengths people will go... lol

i wouldnt inject my dick but taking it could be beneficial for receptors haha

 

[Helen]

@IHateFin Yes, funny that you posted it . I just asked Tubzy yesterday about this , coconut oil is capric oil. It regulates the zinc finger expression, effecting all kinds of zinc fingers, Ppars, cortisol androgen, etc


the only thing is we have 2 cases here. With high and Low DHT

And if you say that duta makes the receptors more sensitive. Since duta just kills 5 alpha reductase. then fin does the same way in some cases.

Then why would you want to make your receptors more sensitive then.

but fin is a progestin so it effects the transcription of the receptors 2 ways. increase zinc finger or decrease.

This is why we have 2 groups of people , people with high prolactin, who do good on DHT supplements, and people with low estrogen who crash on DHT supplements.


I personally had a case with low estrogen and low Dht in PFS. I am in a crash now. SO I am experementing with stuff.




We had the same with POIS. Some people cured POIS on choline lecithin and some had crazy POIS on it.

one person would cure POIS on fenugreek and another person would crash with POIS on fenugreek

Some person will cure POIS with niacin, and the other person will crash on niacin with POIS/


this is basically 2 ways to get shut down, with too sensitive androgens and cortisol , this way you get shut down from them and you run low on estrogen( thus no libido , like being on AI)


and the second way , is when your receptors are not sensitive. This way you make too much testosterone and DHT which increases estrogens and prolactin and prolactin shuts you down.

 

[Helen]

this is why we see some people crash on saw palmetto and get PFS. and some people fix their PFS with saw palmetto.

Oils are the same, some upregulate zinc finger and some downregulate.

SO i guess capric acid has merit. And can be used for sure

 

[Ingeno]

@Helen I tried Saw Palmetto some years ago, even before I used Finasteride. I got insane libido on it, almost couldn't control myself with fapping. Also had insane hair loss and extreme scalp itch. Finasteride had the opposite effect on me, low libido, hair loss stopped.

 

[Helen]

@Helen I tried Saw Palmetto some years ago, even before I used Finasteride. I got insane libido on it, almost couldn't control myself with fapping. Also had insane hair loss and extreme scalp itch. Finasteride had the opposite effect on me, low libido, hair loss stopped.

Yes, and some people crash on saw palmetto like Goose.

Saw Palmetto lowers DHT. Which in some cases can lowers prolactin. And makes libido go nuts.

Saw Palmetto May Reduce Elevated Androgens and Prolactin in Women with PCOS - Restorative Medicine

 

[Ingeno]

Yes, and some people crash on saw palmetto like Goose.

Saw Palmetto lowers DHT. Which in some cases can lowers prolactin. And makes libido go nuts.

Saw Palmetto May Reduce Elevated Androgens and Prolactin in Women with PCOS - Restorative Medicine

Do Saw Palmetto and Finasteride work by different mechanism? Because I got opposite effects from them, but both lower DHT right?

I think I have low DHT, because I have zero beard and body hair.

 

[Helen]

Do Saw Palmetto and Finasteride work by different mechanism? Because I got opposite effects from them, but both lower DHT right?

I think I have low DHT, because I have zero beard and body hair.

I had low DHT in PFS with increased beard and body hair growth . this crash, I did not test the hormones yet. I will test them soon.

Why dont you test it in blood.

I am not sure what saw palmetto does exactly. All I am saying that we have people crash on both upregulating and downregulating receptors.( zinc finger)

Some people even crash by just simply taking zinc 50 mg for 10 days. and then crashed for years after that .

 

[Ingeno]

I had low DHT in PFS with increased beard and body hair growth . this crash, I did not test the hormones yet. I will test them soon.

Why dont you test it in blood.

I am not sure what saw palmetto does exactly. All I am saying that we have people crash on both upregulating and downregulating receptors.( zinc finger)

Some people even crash by just simply taking zinc 50 mg for 10 days. and then crashed for years after that .

Blood tests are quite expensive in my country, and most doctors are stubborn regarding blood tests.

I'm soon doing TE hair analysis and will go from there. I always thought I am a slow oxidizer but lately I am not so sure. I'm tired a lot and low motivation. But lately I dropped zinc and added more copper to my diet and I'm sleeping and feeling better already, thus the more reason to get a hair test, because symptoms don't mean shit.

 

[IHateFin]

this is why we see some people crash on saw palmetto and get PFS. and some people fix their PFS with saw palmetto.

Oils are the same, some upregulate zinc finger and some downregulate.

SO i guess capric acid has merit. And can be used for sure

Yeah I find it interesting that this was compared to dutasteride in sensitizing androgens... some ppl cure themselves with dutasteride.

Coconut oil is good but the Lauric acid inhibits 5AR. MCT oil doesn't have this acid. I'm going to take the cyprilic acid pills and rub mct oil on my dick and face n see what happens. Hoping for some bears growth and libido gainz.

I think I personally am a case of low 5AR and low androgen sensativity. As I heal my body hair thickens and I sprout new hairs on my hand, arm and face, but the overall growth of body hair is relatively slow.

 

[Helen]

@IHateFin

All I have to say is that oils could be really powerful in upping or lowering zinc fingers. I once lost almost all my hair from making the z

Yeah I find it interesting that this was compared to dutasteride in sensitizing androgens... some ppl cure themselves with dutasteride.

Coconut oil is good but the Lauric acid inhibits 5AR. MCT oil doesn't have this acid. I'm going to take the cyprilic acid pills and rub mct oil on my dick and face n see what happens. Hoping for some bears growth and libido gainz.

I think I personally am a case of low 5AR and low androgen sensativity. As I heal my body hair thickens and I sprout new hairs on my hand, arm and face, but the overall growth of body hair is relatively slow.

If you are low 5 AR. you're not low androgen sensitivity. Since no DHT will upregulate androgen receptor like crazy. this is what duta is used for in the case above.

Dutasteride also inhibits 5 AR. 5 AR is never a problem it goes up and down.. but the zinc finger signaling does get affected.So coconut oil does both - dutasteride and capric acid in ONE. Inhibits 5AR and upregulates the zinc finger, by blocking actual receptor. I think capril oil also inhibits 5 AR. this is how it works to upregulate zinc finger.





People need to get tested, since if someone takes dutasteride and it is not for their case, they will crash very hard. Since it will be just like taking fin.

As I wrote, that is all about the zinc finger. So people can cure themselves with cortisol, ar, progesterone receptors agonist or antagonist.

But if you choose the wrong one. It will be like fin crash.


So it is funny that you are excited about duta. Duta same as FIN upregulate AR( zinc finger transc) in half of the people by blocking 5 AR.

But then. after you quit and you have it upregulated. You will have low 5 AR. and low DHT. and high DHT sensitivity. and the body simply does not want to make DHT.

But since DHT is sensitive it shuts you down a lot more than needed and you run low on estrogen. And without estrogen you feel no DHT. no matter what levels you have of that .

Look at the Stud's thread./ He is taking titan gel)) that thing is strong and just lowers estrogen and boom no libido , no erection, nothing. and the guy does not even have PFS at all

 

[IHateFin]

@IHateFin

All I have to say is that oils could be really powerful in upping or lowering zinc fingers. I once lost almost all my hair from making the z



If you are low 5 AR. you're not low androgen sensitivity. Since no DHT will upregulate androgen receptor like crazy

Dutasteride also inhibits 5 AR. 5 AR is never a problem it goes up and down,. but the zinc finger signaling does get affected.So coconut oil does both - dutasteride and capric acid in ONE. Inhibits 5AR and upregulates the zinc finger, by blocking actual receptor. I think capril oil also inhibits 5 AR. this is how it works to upregulate zinc finger.




People need to get tested, since if someone takes dutasteride and it is not for their case, they will crash very hard. Since it will be just like taking fin.

As I wrote, that is all about the zinc finger. So people can cure themselves with cortisol, ar, progesterone receptors agonist or antagonist.

But if you choose the wrong one. It will be like fin crash.

Taking dht makes me feel worse especially by lowering estrogen too much and I would probs say overall I have healthy androgen levels since my muscles n pumps are nuts.

I'll take it light n see what happens

 

[Helen]

Taking dht makes me feel worse especially by lowering estrogen too much and I would probs say overall I have healthy androgen levels since my muscles n pumps are nuts.

I'll take it light n see what happens

yeah me too. in my first PFS crash, I had low AR and low DHT, but my beard and my hair was growing like crazy. And I had low estrogen

DHT was too sensitive so the body shut down the axis and I was making little estrogen.

Why this happens/ since androgen receptor= cortisol receptor/ they are identical since they run on zinc cysteine. So if one is sensitive another one is the same.

And cortisol since it is also too sensitive was causing the hypokalemia. and progesterone went up to save potassium which cortisol was trying to lose.


Also I was so robotic. No emotions.


I am in a stronger crash now. Will get bloods this week. and see wtf. Since this feels pretty bad now.


I guess for people with higher androgens, they will actually feel good on cortisol. they will feel recovered on it. Since their receptors are not sensitive.

 

[Nighteyes]

yeah me too. in my first PFS crash, I had low AR and low DHT, but my beard and my hair was growing like crazy. And I had low estrogen

DHT was too sensitive so the body shut down the axis and I was making little estrogen.

Why this happens/ since androgen receptor= cortisol receptor/ they are identical since they run on zinc cysteine. So if one is sensitive another one is the same.

And cortisol since it is also too sensitive was causing the hypokalemia. and progesterone went up to save potassium which cortisol was trying to lose.


Also I was so robotic. No emotions.


I am in a stronger crash now. Will get bloods this week. and see wtf. Since this feels pretty bad now.

Have you mentioned how you originally fixed that imbalance of too sensitive cortisol/Androgen receptor? Also, would coffee be helpful in this? Would it not make cortisol less sensitive as well as adrenaline?

 

[Helen]

Have you mentioned how you originally fixed that imbalance of too sensitive cortisol/Androgen receptor? Also, would coffee be helpful in this? Would it not make cortisol less sensitive as well as adrenaline?

I have a log. I will fix it soon, and post how I did it. I pretty sure fin affected me the same way this time.

The first time I did so many things. but this time I will try to fix it faster and more precise, since we know a lot more now about it.

 

[freeflow]

@IHateFin

All I have to say is that oils could be really powerful in upping or lowering zinc fingers. I once lost almost all my hair from making the z



If you are low 5 AR. you're not low androgen sensitivity. Since no DHT will upregulate androgen receptor like crazy. this is what duta is used for in the case above.

Dutasteride also inhibits 5 AR. 5 AR is never a problem it goes up and down.. but the zinc finger signaling does get affected.So coconut oil does both - dutasteride and capric acid in ONE. Inhibits 5AR and upregulates the zinc finger, by blocking actual receptor. I think capril oil also inhibits 5 AR. this is how it works to upregulate zinc finger.





People need to get tested, since if someone takes dutasteride and it is not for their case, they will crash very hard. Since it will be just like taking fin.

As I wrote, that is all about the zinc finger. So people can cure themselves with cortisol, ar, progesterone receptors agonist or antagonist.

But if you choose the wrong one. It will be like fin crash.


So it is funny that you are excited about duta. Duta same as FIN upregulate AR( zinc finger transc) in half of the people by blocking 5 AR.

But then. after you quit and you have it upregulated. You will have low 5 AR. and low DHT. and high DHT sensitivity. and the body simply does not want to make DHT.

But since DHT is sensitive it shuts you down a lot more than needed and you run low on estrogen. And without estrogen you feel no DHT. no matter what levels you have of that .

Look at the Stud's thread./ He is taking titan gel)) that thing is strong and just lowers estrogen and boom no libido , no erection, nothing. and the guy does not even have PFS at all

I will never forget when coconut oil cured me overnight, not to 100% but to a very good level. Had so high libido that I had to fap and boom I crashed again lol.
The theory is correct.

 

[IHateFin]

I will never forget when coconut oil cured me overnight, not to 100% but to a very good level. Had so high libido that I had to fap and boom I crashed again lol.
The theory is correct.

i think mct oil would be better tho since it lacks the medium chain fatty acid lauric acid which inhibits 5AR.

i took a heap of coconut oil a week ago and it lowered my 5AR since my penis shriveled a bit and it had been chubbed all day and lowered my libido... it didnt affect my mood at all tho.
MCT is basically coconut oil without lauric acid..

 

[BeLikeWater]

Yeah I find it interesting that this was compared to dutasteride in sensitizing androgens... some ppl cure themselves with dutasteride.

Coconut oil is good but the Lauric acid inhibits 5AR. MCT oil doesn't have this acid. I'm going to take the cyprilic acid pills and rub mct oil on my dick and face n see what happens. Hoping for some bears growth and libido gainz.

I think I personally am a case of low 5AR and low androgen sensativity. As I heal my body hair thickens and I sprout new hairs on my hand, arm and face, but the overall growth of body hair is relatively slow.

Wih you good luck, seems the guy from the blog didnt continued talking about that Oil, why it would be?