Corpus Cavernosum Fibrosis

[TubZy]

@TubZy I have put in a ton of work man. 7 months of supplements. Exercise. Living well. Several short fasts followed by a long one. Spent thousands of dollars on tests, PRP treatments. Pelvic floor physio. Etc. But at the end of the day. Things are just getting worse. My penis has gotten progressively worse over the past 7 months and not better one bit. My testosterone has doubled. It’s now 556. Sensitive estradiol is in a good range. My libido and mind seems to be somewhat recovering yet my dick gets progressively worse every day. So that’s why I am starting to lose hope in that department.

Not trying to come across as an asshole, but 7 months is nothing most on here have been suffering for years. Like I said a 7 day fast is not long at all, especially for what you are trying to treat directly. Look up how long it takes for scars to fade from fasting it is much longer than 7 days.

Same with testosterone, most of us here have high T levels (700-800 range) and still aren't recovered, 556 is OK (not that good) so you still have work to do on that end. Like you said, you are still "recovering" so wait until you feel 100% back to normal before jumping to conclusions in other areas. And BTW your T levels really aren't that important in this scenario since the issue is making DHT sensitive again so even with sky high T levels and DHT levels on paper it won't matter so DHT is technically inactive in your body.

You could try @Cdnuts regimen or look at other experimental regimens, they are talked about every day. Honestly, if you are in that temperamental of a state, I would stay with something safer like CD's regimen.

 

[Nina]

No idea what a hair test is.

Well read up on it, might be helpful.

 

[Canari]

No idea what a hair test is.

Well read up on it, might be helpful.

Yes there are other informations on the forum than just tackling one aspect of physiology. It is all linked. A hair analysis gives you the minerals and their ratio in your TISSUES. It means that is will show the ratio of calcium, which is important in fibrosis for example. If you click on my signature on the link saying I am a slow 1, it will give you my results as an example. Here we all try to balance our minerals, as this is what is fucked up in the body. And the process goes far beyond taking supplements! Also, if you are a fast oxidizer, then you cannot fast, it will not help.

A hair analysis will also give you your toxic heavy metals and toxic ratio or amount of the normal minerals too!

There is also a topic with labs and how to send to the 2 good labs according to where you are in the world...

Then, I will say 1 more word about fear, which is normal when we are ill, and if we do not have fear this is what would be abnormal (it would still be there but invisible, thus frozen which is not what you'd want). You are not believing arguments, Ulysses, because they go to the cortex and emotions are in the limbic. But at the same time, what put fear in you are mostly DOCTORS arguments, and they went to the cortex too. But actually, doctors also put us in some "impotency", which is a freeze response of the ANS, because they are not human enough sometimes, and they are not there to support us at nervous system level. They seem to talk to our cortical brain, but they actually touch the rest. See the difference with the real human support here? Try something different and you might have different results! I was also told that nothing could be done when starting fibromyagia....

 

[wuf]

@TubZy I have put in a ton of work man. 7 months of supplements. Exercise. Living well. Several short fasts followed by a long one. Spent thousands of dollars on tests, PRP treatments. Pelvic floor physio. Etc. But at the end of the day. Things are just getting worse. My penis has gotten progressively worse over the past 7 months and not better one bit. My testosterone has doubled. It’s now 556. Sensitive estradiol is in a good range. My libido and mind seems to be somewhat recovering yet my dick gets progressively worse every day. So that’s why I am starting to lose hope in that department.

Try to search and speak with biologist doctors.
Try to get someone that can help you to restore the tissue, that's what you need.
Plus, what Tubzy says about Testo, DHt values is true. I also have great numbers on paper but I am not fixed.. that's the main issue with PFS.

 

[Ulysses]

[mention]TubZy[/mention] 7 months is a long time to me man. Especially when its all sexual as that is very important to me especially now that I am newly single. Also, when you actually have tests showing things that are not reversible, its a tough pill to swallow. As for the androgen insensitivy theory I don't know if I buy into that or not. I am just not sure about that yet because there isn't a lot of research into that and I have met guys who have recovered using TRT to a pretty acceptable level of life.

I only took the drug for one month so it is completely mind blowing to me and I am still wrapping my head around it. Hopefully things will recover but my dick is definitely smaller as is my wallet with all the bullshit money I'm blowing to get better.

The PRP shot I will keep you guys updated on that. I really hope it helps out and makes things better down there. So far, it hasn't done anything.

 

[wuf]

@TubZy 7 months is a long time to me man. Especially when its all sexual as that is very important to me especially now that I am newly single. Also, when you actually have tests showing things that are not reversible, its a tough pill to swallow. As for the androgen insensitivy theory I don't know if I buy into that or not. I am just not sure about that yet because there isn't a lot of research into that and I have met guys who have recovered using TRT to a pretty acceptable level of life.

I only took the drug for one month so it is completely mind blowing to me and I am still wrapping my head around it. Hopefully things will recover but my dick is definitely smaller as is my wallet with all the bullshit money I'm blowing to get better.

The PRP shot I will keep you guys updated on that. I really hope it helps out and makes things better down there. So far, it hasn't done anything.

Let us know.

 

[Ulysses]

Has anyone taken clomiphene arimidex etc? How should I feel on it? I honestly don’t feel much different. I am about 10 days on it now.

 

[wuf]

Has anyone taken clomiphene arimidex etc? How should I feel on it? I honestly don’t feel much different. I am about 10 days on it now.

It happened to different guys to feel nothing and others to feel shit.
It is subjective

 

[wuf]

Has anyone taken clomiphene arimidex etc? How should I feel on it? I honestly don’t feel much different. I am about 10 days on it now.

Check this out....

http://www.herballove.com/solutions/viapal-hgh-p-herbal-remedy-penis-shrinkage-numbness

 

[Ulysses]

Again the above site seems to talk about peyronies.

I have over masterbate my whole life and the entire time during propecia and after. Docs say this would cause scar tissue but I’m
Not sure.

I really hope that 5 your ereftion didn’t cause problems. Because it became very painful. Very very painful.

I’m going to try and lay off the masterbation in hopes that it will bring some back. Will rely on the daily cialis to try and bring back the tissues.

 

[wuf]

Again the above site seems to talk about peyronies.

I have over masterbate my whole life and the entire time during propecia and after. Docs say this would cause scar tissue but I’m
Not sure.

I really hope that 5 your ereftion didn’t cause problems. Because it became very painful. Very very painful.

I’m going to try and lay off the masterbation in hopes that it will bring some back. Will rely on the daily cialis to try and bring back the tissues.

I dont think over-masturbation can cause scare in tissue.
It can cause brain and neurotrasmitters issues... my not scares in tissue I guess.
DO YOU HAVE PAIN IN ERECTION WHILE ERECTED?
i USED TO HAVE IT BUT THAT'S GONE.

 

[Ulysses]

The only time I have had pain in my erection was when I had priapism. It was so bad because I had skinny jeans on. I hid in a parking lot after the ultrasound and just let it fly for a while but it was really really painful.

I went to emergency and they brought it down but in total looking at 5 hours with a woody.

They say that prompt treatment of priapism shouldn't cause lasting damage but this is in healthy men. Not in men with PFS, so a 5 hour erection with low androgens and already existing erection problems. I don't know.

Research leads to nothing really. My erections and sensitivity have totally decreases while on arimidex and clomiphene. I might drop the arimidex or lower the dose because my estrogen ultrasensitive was already 24 prior to clomiphene.

 

[wuf]

Yes man.
To drop estrogens is not a good idea. We already discussed it on here.
I did it also and it destroyed me..in general. Felt totally shit and no libido.
So drop that stuff. Before dropping, make a research if it is fine to drop it suddenly or little by little.

 

[Ulysses]

See the thing is that clomiphene increases estrogen so arimidex just keeps it in range i guess. I guess thats the science. I went and saw Goldstein however I didn't really like his approach. He didn't really seem that interested in my care, and just seemed kinda spacey and all over the place. No real discussion of the meds or anything like that. It was wierd.

He just seemed more interested in selling me his PRP shot.

 

[wuf]

See the thing is that clomiphene increases estrogen so arimidex just keeps it in range i guess. I guess thats the science. I went and saw Goldstein however I didn't really like his approach. He didn't really seem that interested in my care, and just seemed kinda spacey and all over the place. No real discussion of the meds or anything like that. It was wierd.

He just seemed more interested in selling me his PRP shot.

Get used to that..doctors

 

[Ulysses]

Yah I know. Last night I was sexting a girl and my erections are so pathetic. It’s brutal. Things are actually getting worse?

Maybe I took too much arimidex? Cuz my sensitivity went is at down last week. Yesterday I took 0.5 mg and I feel like it’s kinda getting more sensitive but erection quality is quite poor. When I first started finasteride my erection quality was still ok with stimulation but I had no libido and sexual pleasure was not as good at all. 6 months later and I definitely want to have sex and lots of it but my dick doesn’t respond at all. It’s like a soft hard on.

I am buying a penis pump today to try and see progress there. I am trying to not watch porn anymore and only jerk off using my mind like when I was a kid.

I am not too sure how I am going to recover erectile function. It’s getting worse and worse and I feel like I might be making it worse myself. Maybe if I had of just waited 6 months before doing anything at all I would have recovered by now. Maybe he priapism is what fucked me now. I wish real bad that my GP would have done pre finasteride blood tests. Maybe then I would have had some answers.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

DMSO, vitamin K2, topical DHT, proto enzymes, gelatin can all break up fibrosis. Even fasting too, but I would fix PFS first and that would probably take care of most of it.

You just use plain DMSO powder or prepare a cream from it ? Can you provide any dosage ?

 

[joekool]

DMSO is just a liquid in a bottle... you can just put a few drops on your clean penis and rub it in with very clean hands, let it dry and go about your day. This is a vasodilator ... but I find a funny smell comes from my sweat pores but I don't care. You're gonna want to high dose nerve repair aminos like I listed.

Ulysses, estrogen is needed for erections and EQ. I have read arimidex and clomid used together but over half those issues are post steroid cycles... you see, clomid is estrogen with a high affinity to the estrogen receptor . This binds and blocks the stronger estrogen produced when Aromatase converts testosterone into estrogen to keep your hormonal levels balanced. Clomid also triggers the pituitary gland to produce more testosterone so your levels typically go up to higher but still natural levels.

A bathmate is a great pump to keep blood flowing safely. I don't know if you listened to my arginine suggestion because it seems once someone mentions peyronie's disease you tune out... this is the same corporation as you're dealing with, just different branch.

Lower the arimidex to every 3 days.

 

[Ulysses]

Yah I don’t have peyronies though cuz it’s different then fibrosis in the corpus cavernosum.

My penis has shrunk a ton in the erect form so I don’t think I’m getting back from this one unfortunately. Gonna follow my protocol very well for 6 months but I don’t know if I’ll beat this one. Hopefully I will but who knows

I can’t maintain an erection. There has been severe tissue changes in my penis now and it’s much smaller. That’s the kind of stuff that won’t return to normal unfortunately. Your body just can’t regrow tissue in your penis.

 

[Ulysses]

Ok guys... So here is the scoop today.

In the morning I tried to yank one out without any visual stimulation while standing. I could do it but it wasn't the best. Erection didn't feel amazing. It wasn't as strong but I could get one and maintain it ok. The only thing I am on right now is Clomid which hasn't made me feel much different. Semen quality was poor.

This afternoon I popped my last .25 dose of adex before I drop it because it seems to reduce sensitivity and libido for me. I also then got my hands on some cialis generic. I gook 5mg about a half hour ago and then i just did the deed. Erections seemed the same, maybe slightly better but I could maintain it a lot better without having to think as hard. It also felt better and my semen quality was better. I think the amount of semen you shoot out depends on erection quality and arousal, or at least it has for me my whole life.

So yah I got a serious protocol going now. Some clomiphene, low dose cialis, PRP shots every two months to regrow tissue and I have a VED in the mail to help with healing etc.

Lets hope I can beat the shit out of this fibrosis and get my life back