Dr Robert Willner Injects "HIV" into himself on TV

[TubZy]

You guys ever see this?

 

[jacknap]

I've heard about this through Joe Rogan Podcast I think or might have been Joey Diaz's podcast.

 

[Area-1255]

You guys ever see this?

Yeah I've seen the Documentary many times. Never read his Book though.
I have mixed feelings on it.
1.) While the points regarding the "Tests being inaccurate and misleading" was true for a time, nowadays that is not True - they are pretty damn specific.
"HIV" definitely exists, but whatever the MOA is in the Body seems to be mixed and varied per genetic Group. It seems pretty unlikely the "scam" has gone on this far and given the Numbers, we certainly don't deny Cancer exists. But there is something "off" about the whole thing. Maybe HIV was created by some Swiss Scientists and then somehow assimilated it into Monkeys or whatever in expectation the African Population would get it and be wiped out. Or maybe it really was mutated. Who knows.
It seems like 1.) Its pretty damn unique and nothing like it exists in the Retrovirus group - it is unique in that it creates a complex Cell death cycle specific to the Immune System and 2.) That is the only virus (besides Rabies) there is no cure for and doesn't seem consistent with the Knowledge of Retroviruses (as Peter Duesberg said).
2.) With that being said, I also don't think its a coincidence that some groups or people from Europe are anywhere from Partially to Mostly to 100% or Near 100% Immune to the Virus. That is the Duffy-Antigen gene, HLA-C Gene and Delta-32 CCR5 Genes. If you have one Copy of the HLA-C gene found in European Individuals (Irish, Scottish, German, Scandinavian mostly, also Poland and others) then you have a "60% reduction in Viral Load" and thus improved Survivability and slower Progression to AIDS. If you Duffy-Positive and have two copies of the "outward" gene then you have a slightly-moderately less risk of getting infected from HIV in the first place (also present in European Individuals). And the Delta-32-Gene is also *very important* as the specific Gene when it is a "Delta-32-Deletion" having a CCR5-deletion renders the Person very resistant to HIV and lessened risk or low risk of AIDS - that is they are "Elite Controllers" and almost never progress to AIDS. The Homozygoes - or those who get a Delta-32-deletion from both Parents...are almost 100% immune from being infected by HIV in the first place - and certainly, if on the rare odds (0.00001%) are infected by a Rare strain like the recombinative "Cuban" strain - then they will have improved survivability to the extent of late or even non-progresser status.
It seems..if this were a Conspiracy - then every bit that follows would also be. Including the "Berlin Patient" or Timothy Ray Brown. Who was cured of HIV.
The idea behind that is he got a Stem Cell transplant of Delta-32-Gene mutated cells.
In this case he was "cured" of the Infection.

 

[Area-1255]

On the other hand, if the thing is all a Hoax - then the Billions of Dollars in Cover-ups and such..these guys seriously should be killed off in a fire somewhere.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Yea saw some videos explaining HIV/AIDS is a hoax.

 

[Niles]

The dude died not even a year after this, so it seems his health theories didn't help him much in the end. If this forum keeps giving credence to health conspiracy theories like this, we really will earn the nickname "quackstasis".

Western medicine is definitely corrupt, largely ineffective and impersonal, but that's all ultimately due to to capitalism run amok, not secret societies covertly spreading disease.

People like eating shitty food, laying around all day, and the convenience of a throw-away culture that creates unhealthy waste/chemical-filled environments. People also like quick fixes, i.e. bandaids, for all the health problems this lifestyle causes. Capitalism just gives people what they want, plus things they didn't even know they wanted, because there is money to be made. Western medicine doesn't care about holistic and sustainable health because the consumer doesn't care either, until their health has gone to complete shit, and even then most aren't willing to make the lifestyle changes necessary for healing. Those who are willing are too few and far between for the medical system to be incentivized to serve them - but that is starting to change, with more and more people turning to alternative medicine.

 

[M_Mitchell08]

The dude died not even a year after this, so it seems his health theories didn't help him much in the end. If this forum keeps giving credence to health conspiracy theories like this, we really will earn the nickname "quackstasis".

Western medicine is definitely corrupt, largely ineffective and impersonal, but that's all ultimately due to to capitalism run amok, not secret societies covertly spreading disease.

People like eating shitty food, laying around all day, and the convenience of a throw-away culture that creates unhealthy waste/chemical-filled environments. People also like quick fixes, i.e. bandaids, for all the health problems this lifestyle causes. Capitalism just gives people what they want, plus things they didn't even know they wanted, because there is money to be made. Western medicine doesn't care about holistic and sustainable health because the consumer doesn't care either, until their health has gone to complete shit, and even then most aren't willing to make the lifestyle changes necessary for healing. Those who are willing are too few and far between for the medical system to be incentivized to serve them - but that is starting to change, with more and more people turning to alternative medicine.

Well said.

 

[Area-1255]

Yea saw some videos explaining HIV/AIDS is a hoax.

Doubtful at this point. I mean I'm open to theories but without seeing with my own eyes a test on human subjects (which would be inhumane) I don't really believe otherwise. There's definitely A Conspiracy around it. I just don't what it is. There's something not right about the phenomenon. But again, Rabies exists so why shouldn't HIV exist. Its just very odd behavior for a Retrovirus. Maybe the Government is trying to blow us all away with this shit until those of assuredly "Fallen Angel"/Nordic DNA (I1; Viking Blood) who tend to be immune from this shit survive. Maybe its Hitler's last project before he died. Maybe he signed off on it...and it was his last project to promote Aryan Dominance and wipe out those of Non-Nordic Heritage. Or maybe...we'll just never fucking know. We can speculate upon Conspiracy and Conspiracy, the question is whether it even helps to believe in Conspiracy Theories. At least...except for the ones we already know exist, like the Leftist-Technocratic-Vatican Controlled Globalist Schemes. Those exist. No denying those.

 

[TubZy]

I'm no conspiracy theorist I just saw the video on YouTube. Yeah he died of a "heart attack" months after not some sort of immune illness which HIV patients are usually attributed too, interesting nonetheless. This thread is for discussion purposes not promotional purposes. Discussion is healthy..