Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

[Orion]

@TubZy

With 100mg of magnesium chloride do you actually mean 100mg of MgCl2or 100mg elemental magnesium from MgCl2?

MgCl2 has 12% elemental magnesium. Therefore 100mg is only 12mg of magnesium.
I take around 2g which equals ~240mg elemental magnesium.

Potassium chloride for example is 50-52% elemental potassium.
So 4g KCl ~2g elemental potassium.

I think thats good to know

I use MgCl2 flakes, when measured 2grams = about 1Tablespoon, so that should be roughly ~240mg.

Good post thanks @HerrFisch

 

[djohn051]

I am a PFS sufferer and interested in trying out this protocol. I have one concern, however. I have oral herpes and get cold sores quite frequently as it is. I am especially sensitive to L-Arginine to the point that if I have a whey shake, I will get an outbreak. Is there any option for me as far as the amino supplement goes/a workaround?

 

[Orion]

I am a PFS sufferer and interested in trying out this protocol. I have one concern, however. I have oral herpes and get cold sores quite frequently as it is. I am especially sensitive to L-Arginine to the point that if I have a whey shake, I will get an outbreak. Is there any option for me as far as the amino supplement goes/a workaround?

L-lysine is supposed to counter/balance l-arginine. Have you tried the bigger doses of lysine to help with cold sores?

 

[djohn051]

L-lysine is supposed to counter/balance l-arginine. Have you tried the bigger doses of lysine to help with cold sores?

Yes, that does work for me. The problem is that, regardless of Lysine, if I have too much arginine I will have an outbreak. Can I take only essential aminos for this protocol?

also, do you know anything about the liver flush/fasting process. Do I do them simultaneously or can I fast for a month or so first, followed by a liver flush?

 

[Aleksandr]

Yes they have almost the perfect balance! I buy them by the kilo, peeled. I am waiting for unpeeled ones at ridiculous price, and organic though, and will try to make some milk or sprout them. Can you get avocados and do you like them? They make super creams!

Thanks for the indication about sunburn, good to know! It can explain why though I have very white skin, I do not sunburn easily. I found it surprising...

Yeah i believe sunburning is tied heavily to the pufa content. Less pufa = less sunburn. So eating oily fish all day as your fat will mean no if any sunburn. Eating lots of vegetable oil will mean skin cancer imo

 

[Amazoniac]

Interesting thoughts. ♡

This is from Max Gerson's book:

we gave the patients large amounts of potassium.12 It took about 300 experiments until I found the right potassium combination. It is a 10% solution of potassium gluconate, potassium phosphate (monobasic), and potassium acetate.

100 grams (equal parts of each salt) dissolved in approx. 1 quart water.

 

[Canari]

march, you forgot your peaty lessons! oily fish is pufa too, but omega3!

Hi @Amazoniac !

We want K, but also Cl, to increase stomach acid.

 

[Legna88]

i read that very sick people almost on their death bed would be carried few miles away from the beach and fast on ocean/sea water for 24 hours, drinking about 1- 2 gallons in 24 hours, the whole process is simple: drink as much as you can until stomach is FULL, followed by shitting your brains out, repeat for 24 hours. this process toploads the body with all the nutrients it needs in the perfect ratio and cleanses ALL the body of every toxin. This is the only cleanse that flushes out the garbage while the same time replenishes it with ALL of the vital nutrients in the perfect ratio/dose.

they would heal 100%. why? the ocean contains ALL the macro and micro minerals, HCL, amino acids, fatty acids, rare gases the body needs in the PERFECT ratio. after this fast, one would drink daily for maintenance some isotonic ocean/sea water, it's composition is exactly like blood's composition.

isotonic ocean/sea water was used in place of blood with soldiers and sick people, also for enemas/colonics.

isotonic sea water is 1 part sea/ocean water mixed with 3 parts distilled water (e.g. 100ml sea/ocean water + 300ml distilled water)

soaking in sea/ocean as much as possible also replenishes minerals in the correct ratios, soaking+ sun gazing(at sun rise and sun set when you can look towards the sun without squinting, sun should be dark yellow/red)+ grounding is also fabulous

off course this post is only for informational/educational purposes only... consult your medical professional before trying anything

 

[Helen]

i read that very sick people almost on their death bed would be carried few miles away from the beach and fast on ocean/sea water for 24 hours, drinking about 1- 2 gallons in 24 hours, the whole process is simple: drink as much as you can until stomach is FULL, followed by shitting your brains out, repeat for 24 hours. this process toploads the body with all the nutrients it needs in the perfect ratio and cleanses ALL the body of every toxin. This is the only cleanse that flushes out the garbage while the same time replenishes it with ALL of the vital nutrients in the perfect ratio/dose.

they would heal 100%. why? the ocean contains ALL the macro and micro minerals, HCL, amino acids, fatty acids, rare gases the body needs in the PERFECT ratio. after this fast, one would drink daily for maintenance some isotonic ocean/sea water, it's composition is exactly like blood's composition.

isotonic ocean/sea water was used in place of blood with soldiers and sick people, also for enemas/colonics.

isotonic sea water is 1 part sea/ocean water mixed with 3 parts distilled water (e.g. 100ml sea/ocean water + 300ml distilled water)

soaking in sea/ocean as much as possible also replenishes minerals in the correct ratios, soaking+ sun gazing(at sun rise and sun set when you can look towards the sun without squinting, sun should be dark yellow/red)+ grounding is also fabulous

off course this post is only for informational/educational purposes only... consult your medical professional before trying anything

If you have low sodium taking sodium is good. If you have high sodium and alkalosis with volume expansion , it will cause a lot of harm.

People with low sodium should be taking electrolytes with salt and use salt.

 

[Aleksandr]

i read that very sick people almost on their death bed would be carried few miles away from the beach and fast on ocean/sea water for 24 hours, drinking about 1- 2 gallons in 24 hours, the whole process is simple: drink as much as you can until stomach is FULL, followed by shitting your brains out, repeat for 24 hours. this process toploads the body with all the nutrients it needs in the perfect ratio and cleanses ALL the body of every toxin. This is the only cleanse that flushes out the garbage while the same time replenishes it with ALL of the vital nutrients in the perfect ratio/dose.

they would heal 100%. why? the ocean contains ALL the macro and micro minerals, HCL, amino acids, fatty acids, rare gases the body needs in the PERFECT ratio. after this fast, one would drink daily for maintenance some isotonic ocean/sea water, it's composition is exactly like blood's composition.

isotonic ocean/sea water was used in place of blood with soldiers and sick people, also for enemas/colonics.

isotonic sea water is 1 part sea/ocean water mixed with 3 parts distilled water (e.g. 100ml sea/ocean water + 300ml distilled water)

soaking in sea/ocean as much as possible also replenishes minerals in the correct ratios, soaking+ sun gazing(at sun rise and sun set when you can look towards the sun without squinting, sun should be dark yellow/red)+ grounding is also fabulous

off course this post is only for informational/educational purposes only... consult your medical professional before trying anything

Wont this make you badly dehydrated???

 

[Clementine]

Quote from first post in thread:

You need to quit all the hormones unless you have organic damage of some organ like thyroid. or ovaries or testies.

Based on this statement, it would suggest that you believe in hormone replacement for menopause since the ovaries are no longer functioning. I'm curious if that's the case?

 

[Orion]

Yes, that does work for me. The problem is that, regardless of Lysine, if I have too much arginine I will have an outbreak. Can I take only essential aminos for this protocol?

also, do you know anything about the liver flush/fasting process. Do I do them simultaneously or can I fast for a month or so first, followed by a liver flush?

Yes aminos are to keep cortisol reduced so essential should be fine, the important stuff is the electrolytes(KCl/MgCl) with HCl. Liver flushes could be done before or after fasting, just not during. Once per month for first year, then maybe once or twice per year.

 

[Pope]

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Also i found a 15% discount code : HWP15

Thanks for all the great info, just ordered my hair mineral test from doctors data , i did one years ago as well from Genova but i have done a lot of experimentation since then , with various minerals and lot’s of saunaing so thaught it best to re-test.

One thing though is, i know it gives a picture of the past 3 month ish mineral status but what If You have supplemented for all that time and longer - wouldnt that give a slightly Off picture ? Even with absorption from stomach being messed up from hypochloridia and all, surely You would Get some increased absorption ? Would it make sense to take x ammount of time Off or just take it as is ?

 

[talkingant]

When are people taking electrolytes+HCl? Once a day (morning or night)? Before or after a meal?

 

[Orion]

When are people taking electrolytes+HCl? Once a day (morning or night)? Before or after a meal?

@mattyb recommends sipping them throughout the day, but I think you could take them with the aminos/meal and HCl(same time)

 

[RebelWithACause]

When are people taking electrolytes+HCl? Once a day (morning or night)? Before or after a meal?

With every meal.

 

[TubZy]

Betaine HCl capsule takes before meal. Pure HCL powder in water drink immediately after meal.

 

[Canari]

Betaine HCl capsule takes before meal. Pure HCL powder in water drink immediately after meal.

pffff I was taking the capsule after meal or near the end. And all is fine until a few hours AFTER the meal, much after. If I bend, I can have some burp with this acidity burning my throat. In general I have this when I should nearly be at the time to eat the next meal.
@mattyb can this be that I get and produce more acid than for one meal now? I take bitter greens and salt and lemon plus olive oil in the morning, and you were saying that it was enough to produce acid for the rest of the day...
I have a doubt because the burning comes late, and I was expecting the burning to come sooner during digestion, if we have too much HCl.... Can you precise something about this please?

 

[Canari]

One thing though is, i know it gives a picture of the past 3 month ish mineral status but what If You have supplemented for all that time and longer - wouldnt that give a slightly Off picture ? Even with absorption from stomach being messed up from hypochloridia and all, surely You would Get some increased absorption ? Would it make sense to take x ammount of time Off or just take it as is ?

You would need 3 months off supps to get this effect, so you just have to do the hair test. Ratios are not all about the quantity of supps but about the balance the body decides to have, according to much more than your intake, food or supps... Are you in Norway?

 

[Canari]

alkalosis with volume expansion

Anybody has understood what is volume expansion? Is is when you are swollen with water? Who has example of how it manifest in himself?