Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

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Too many fucking weirdos in health and alternate health. Thanks for that info @gbolduev. I noted it several days ago. I would have just paid them instead
of whatever this woman is doing in Canada, probably something useless rather than getting my info back to me in a prompt matter. She's probably going on strike or protesting something. She's "On Vacation". Vaction from what? It's mostly people whose entire life is a vacation, who are always taking one.
 
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Also @gbolduev I'm still taking what you recommended me a while back, not raincoast like you said. Should I switch to raincoast? Or are the differences not important in my case? I wouldn't ask if I could figure it out myself, and last time you got mad at me for randomly jumping around too much :p

And I totally agree on not going through whatever weirdo's. Although the weirdo I am/was working with got recommended to me by ARL themselves after I emailed them to ask for practitioners in my area. Maybe I just got unlucky. Go with a known good one if you can.
 

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Man I am not here to guide people case by case, people should be guided by succesful cases. Like RU cases and recoveries, like scences. like tubzy. Anyone who I paid a little attention to mostly recovered. But I am busy and I cant sit and help people case by case. This is why I said go get ARL/ If you cant get ARL program like admiral. I cant help you. You are guided by recovery cases.

You are reading some random people now who are trying things, and they dont know what they are doing. like who is struggling ? who? everyone is doing stuff. the only struggling one I see is admiral. All other people are trying out programs. and doing much better. If admiral cant get an ARL progam and keeps getting worthless hairtest I cant help. YOu get a program automatically from ARL. It comes from a computer. practitioner does not make it up. practitioner is just a middleman. You get a program and ARL give you supplements what to take . So you dont even have to think.

Everyone that is continiously asking you questions, which are alot, is struggling. And its not because they are all idiots, they simply dont feel they have the tools to get out of their zombie state. And i understand you are busy, this is not a personal rant.
Yes, there are some people that reported to be cured, but how that relates to another case, really difficult to get that overview. Thats why guiding from these recoveries is so difficult, if not impossible.
I really hope those ARL tests + follow-up will do some people good, but i have not seen one recovery as a result from that however. For PSSD it seems there is currently more success with people on Ella/Levonorgestrel or dopamine agonists.
 

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Also @gbolduev I'm still taking what you recommended me a while back, not raincoast like you said. Should I switch to raincoast? Or are the differences not important in my case? I wouldn't ask if I could figure it out myself, and last time you got mad at me for randomly jumping around too much :p

And I totally agree on not going through whatever weirdo's. Although the weirdo I am/was working with got recommended to me by ARL themselves after I emailed them to ask for practitioners in my area. Maybe I just got unlucky. Go with a known good one if you can.

I told you to try turmeric with ginger for your body chemisty. If that did not work. It is best for you to get an ARL program and take it. ARL give you specific program for you/ computer calculates all the minerals and knows exactly what to take.

Are you feeling anything from what I told you?
 

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Everyone that is continiously asking you questions, which are alot, is struggling. And its not because they are all idiots, they simply dont feel they have the tools to get out of their zombie state. And i understand you are busy, this is not a personal rant.
Yes, there are some people that reported to be cured, but how that relates to another case, really difficult to get that overview. Thats why guiding from these recoveries is so difficult, if not impossible.
I really hope those ARL tests + follow-up will do some people good, but i have not seen one recovery as a result from that however. For PSSD it seems there is currently more success with people on Ella/Levonorgestrel or dopamine agonists.

I have not dealt with PSSD at all. Tubzy raincoast, goose, aztec, scenes, herrfish , orion. etc Are not PSSD. I have no idea why you expect me to deal with PSSD. the first person will be barbar.

Are you talking about PSSD, that people are not recovered? like who? I never dealt with one PSSD person. and PFS people are recovered that I dealt with.

I understand it wont be case by case, this is why I said go get ARL. you will recover PSSD or PFS. I cant deal with people on case by case basis. I don;t understand what you want from me? what is your suggestion?

I will finish barbar , until recovery , all others can go get ARL. I simply cant sit and go case by case. I'm sure, ARL will fix it. It is not a complicated imbalance .it is a drug related issue, which is fast to recover.
 
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I told you to try turmeric with ginger for your body chemisty. If that did not work. It is best for you to get an ARL program and take it. ARL give you specific program for you/ computer calculates all the minerals and knows exactly what to take.

Are you feeling anything from what I told you?

I'm actually feeling pretty good at the moment, only a tiny bit of fatigue and I sometimes feel like I'm getting a little bit of emotions back but that could just be wishful thinking.
 

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I have not dealt with PSSD at all. Tubzy raincoast, goose, aztec, scenes, herrfish , orion. etc Are not PSSD. I have no idea why you expect me to deal with PSSD. the first person will be barbar.

Are you taking about PSSD, that people are not recovered? like who? I never dealt with one PSSD person. and PFS people are recovered that I dealt with.

I understand it wont be case by case, this is why I said go get ARL. you will recover PSSD or PFS. I cant deal with people on case by case basis. I don;t understand what you want from me? what is your suggestion?
No no i know you are refering to PFS. Just making a point that i havent seen any PSSD recoveries here, although there are many people trying out protocols and ARL tests as well.
 

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No no i know you are refering to PFS. Just making a point that i havent seen any PSSD recoveries here, although there are many people trying out protocols and ARL tests as well.

I have not dealt with one PSSD case at all yet. I took on Barbar , he is my first PSSD case. I contacted him and asked if he wanted to try. And we are trying now. I have been busy lately . Aztec is PSSD , he recovered with ella or RU I dont remember.
I am sure PSSD will be recovered also. Watch barbars case. We will recover him soon. I just could not pay too much attention lately. I glanced over this test fast and made some recs, and we are trying, if he does not recover fast. We will try ARL program since their computer calculates more precisely than my glance

ARL hairtest without a program is worthless, I have no idea why people do it. You need to get recs. and take them. you cant read the hairtest yourself.
 

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I have not dealt with PSSD at all. Tubzy raincoast, goose, aztec, scenes, herrfish , orion. etc Are not PSSD. I have no idea why you expect me to deal with PSSD. the first person will be barbar.

Are you talking about PSSD, that people are not recovered? like who? I never dealt with one PSSD person. and PFS people are recovered that I dealt with.

I understand it wont be case by case, this is why I said go get ARL. you will recover PSSD or PFS. I cant deal with people on case by case basis. I don;t understand what you want from me? what is your suggestion?

I will finish barbar , until recovery , all others can go get ARL. I simply cant sit and go case by case. I'm sure, ARL will fix it. It is not a complicated imbalnced. it is a drug related issue, which is fast to recover.
And it is not me wanting anything, you dont owe any of us. But this "way" of saying everything is available, but people have tons of questions anyway doesnt really lead to anything.
My suggestion? Cure/support 1 or 2 cases (PFS, PSSD) that are in really bad shape and build from that. Everyone will stop doing crazy random shit then.
I still have no idea what PSSD really means or how to handle it. ARL programs that i have seen in the Netherlands seem a rip off, leaving only the hormone testing route open.
 

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I think @aztec was PFS and I'm certain he used ellaone.
Also at @Jaxx, some people have cured either of these and other post-drug disorders with zero help (hard, and very rare).
Never give up, and I feel what you're going thru, skip any shady program and go with ARL.
 
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And it is not me wanting anything, you dont owe any of us. But this "way" of saying everything is available, but people have tons of questions anyway doesnt really lead to anything.
My suggestion? Cure/support 1 or 2 cases (PFS, PSSD) that are in really bad shape and build from that. Everyone will stop doing crazy random shit then.
I still have no idea what PSSD really means or how to handle it. ARL programs that i have seen in the Netherlands seem a rip off, leaving only the hormone testing route open.
Man, there are a lot more than 1-2 case of PFS cured on this forum. I mentioned many people who got cured. this is what I did with PFS, I took 2-3 people personally and cured them.. And they wrote about it. PSSD - barbar is my first case and he will be cured.

ARL programs seem to be a rip off in Netherlands? what are you taking about . ARL program is the same everywhere
 

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I have not dealt with one PSSD case at all yet. I took on Barbar , he is my first PSSD case. I contacted him and asked if he wanted to try. And we are trying now. I have been busy lately . Aztec is PSSD , he recovered with ella or RU I dont remember.
I am sure PSSD will be recovered also. Watch barbars case. We will recover him soon. I just could not pay too much attention lately. I glanced over this test fast and made some recs, and we are trying, if he does not recover fast. We will try ARL program since their computer calculates more precisely than my glance

ARL hairtest without a program is worthless, I have no idea why people do it. You need to get recs. and take them. you cant read the hairtest yourself.
And again, i am still keeping my fingers crossed that it works in the end. But you should agree that ideas, questions and especially testing stuff is all over the place here. It is was easy, everyone would actually be enjoying their lives again.
 

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Man, there are a lot more than 1-2 case of PFS cured on this forum. I mentioned many people who got cured. this is what I did with PFS, I took 2-3 people personally and cured them.. And they wrote about it. PSSD - barbar is my first case and he will be cured.

ARL programs seem to be a rip off in Netherlands? what are you taking about . ARL program is the same everywhere
If you get a reply with a print out, no real interpretation and no after care, i call that a rip off.
 

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And again, i am still keeping my fingers crossed that it works in the end. But you should agree that ideas, questions and especially testing stuff is all over the place here. It is was easy, everyone would actually be enjoying their lives again.

If you read the protocol it very straight forward protocol. which says as 4) go get ARL program and take it. this protocol covers pretty much everything. It is all in one spot. and if you cant read it I cant help.
 

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If you get a reply with a print out, no real interpretation and no after care, i call that a rip off.

If you get a reply from ARL with no real interpretation you are doing something wrong. ARL is an american company and not in NL. And if you choose to go and get ripped off by some wierdo in NL. How does this have anything to do with ARL.

ARL does not have a branch in NL. It is your responsiblity to know what you are getting. this seems like kindergarten stuff. C.mon
 

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And again, i am still keeping my fingers crossed that it works in the end. But you should agree that ideas, questions and especially testing stuff is all over the place here. It is was easy, everyone would actually be enjoying their lives again.

Everything is on first page of this thread. It is not all over the place. It is all in one thread now.
 

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Some are trying to use the protocol without Hair test.
Some are using only some minerals.
Some are just using weird electrolyte dosages which dont fit together
Some dont know what to do or take.

I guess its actually quite hard for some to pick the right things from that protocol.

Tbh I think its needed to pin down some dosages of electrolytes in this "protocol". I see a lot on here taking only pieces of the protocol.

Like Potassium and Magnesium but without Sodium despite low sodium on hair test. And then they feel bad on magnesium and lower it or drop it.
Or people taking a lot of Betain HCl but only little potassium. 400mg Kcl 3x per day is just to little if you ask me.

And people should not buy overpriced low dosed things like eidon minerals. Chloride form of every electrolyte can be so cheap. And HCL as well (Just ask @Yura)

You can spend really a lot on the wrong things of this protocol. I think the protocol can be very overwhelming and people read over or focus on the wrong things.

&I think we need a "protocol" for dummies.
 

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You know, If i was the only one that "misinterpreted" the protocol, sure. But looking at all the questions, and other trials people are doing, it is safe to say it is not a simple matter of reading it and get cured. This is more like a map how to program a VCR in the 80's, only directly translated from chinese. At least for most of us mortals.
And ARL tests are offered here locally, like in most countries, but the actual tests are done in US. My point is that many get a ARL test, without any useful information in the end.
 

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You know, If i was the only one that "misinterpreted" the protocol, sure. But looking at all the questions, and other trials people are doing, it is safe to say it is not a simple matter of reading it and get cured. This is more like a map how to program a VCR in the 80's, only directly translated from chinese. At least for most of us mortals.
And ARL tests are offered here locally, like in most countries, but the actual tests are done in US. My point is that many get a ARL test, without any useful information in the end.

I dont see people ask any questions. like who is asking questions I dont get. I mentioned to you people who are taking the protocol. they are not asking any questions really. New people that take random stuff here and there, Are asking questions. Good for them. but I am not going to answer any of those questions, Since protocol answers everything. And I am not here to hold people hands and walk them thru. I did it for a lot of people here with my spare time, and I adviced many people case by case on their problems.

ONE MORE TIME FOR YOU. ARL GIVES BACK A HAIRTEST WITH A COMPUTER generated PROGRAM WHICH IS 20 PAGES with all recs and a program and what to take exactly , if you dont get that. YOu are doing something wrong, or you just ordered a hairtest which is worthless to you . YOU need to order hairtest and a program. And this should cost you 150bux. If someone sells you a hairtest for a 100 and then a program for 140. It is a rip off, this is why I told you you get get everything proper with Catherine. and I left her e-mail address on the first page of this thread

If you read the first page. of this thread, it says step by step what to do. If you misinterpret something, ask other people who are following it with success.
 

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@Jaxx I will get the ARL recs soon, confirmed by the practitioner guy. 112 for the initial test, 40 for the actual recommendations. I did waste like 170 on my intake there but that could have been avoided if I insisted on just getting only the recommendations in the first place. They (biocoherence) are really into pushing their own supplements and programs so I'd still avoid them if you can.

If I had to start over again I'd send an email to catherine and avoid dealing with sketchy practitioners. Just get it directly and you shouldn't have any of the problems I ran into.