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[esp90]

Started HG7 today, 1 hour after taking it i get a panic attack lol, since then ive had panic attack ever two hours or so, my vision gets blurry when it happens too, scary stuff... never have these, or I believe i had one like ten years ago when i took high dose riboflavin. But man this is rough, and to know what to take to make up for it or "calibrate", thats hard to know, and when it causes those kinds of symptoms, very scary. Maybe im should just go on TEI, never had any side effects, but probably never chelated anything either since i only did one cycle lol, i got benefits reduction in my symptoms, but the ine thing that puts me off is the time it takes, like maybe 2 whole years before you even START chelating stuff. and when you do maybe the symptoms will be as bad as i feel today anyway. Its difficult to know how to proceed from here.

 

[Yura]

Even if that combination of stuff is right for your chemistry. I don't see the need for so high doses. Why rush it like that?
Can't wait for my hair test results.

 

[esp90]

Even if that combination of stuff is right for your chemistry. I don't see the need for so high doses. Why rush it like that?
Can't wait for my hair test results.

You have been on TEI or ARL before I assume? If so why did you stop?

 

[Yura]

I did two ARL.. In first test I had high mercury. So I did safe removal of amalgamas and I was taking like 30% dose of their recommended protocol. But I stopped thyroid meds and my metabolism tanked even more on second test.. I was not following their protocol because I had to work shitty hard manual labor job so I couln't simply take loads of zinc etc. + this froum was no longer active so I somehow slowly completely forgot about balancing and all that. Maybe because I was doing somewhat ok as well. I started with low vit A as well. I focused just on that and completely forgot about everything else which hurt me because I was doing many stupid things.. Hopefully it will not happen again and I will be focused on just balancing. Doing retests and doing everything that I can towards better health.

 

[esp90]

I did two ARL.. In first test I had high mercury. So I did safe removal of amalgamas and I was taking like 30% dose of their recommended protocol. But I stopped thyroid meds and my metabolism tanked even more on second test.. I was not following their protocol because I had to work shitty hard manual labor job so I couln't simply take loads of zinc etc. + this froum was no longer active so I somehow slowly completely forgot about balancing and all that. Maybe because I was doing somewhat ok as well. I started with low vit A as well. I focused just on that and completely forgot about everything else which hurt me because I was doing many stupid things.. Hopefully it will not happen again and I will be focused on just balancing. Doing retests and doing everything that I can towards better health.

Do you know of any forum where people who do mineral balancing can chat? Ive not found any, you would think reddit or facebook would have some but i have not found any?

 

[Yura]

@esp90 not even practitioners make any videos anything about HTMA and balancing. For some reason it is dead basically..
I think the best place is here. Everybody else is watching at this stuff so myopic. We just need old school guys come back and share what they learned over the years. Wonder where everyone is. Dead or what hehe. Just do TEI program and share it here. I will do the same on my log.
Are you working on your routine like going to bed early etc.?
I did some shifts in that stupid warehouse job, but it is interesting I feel better couple days later when I recovered crazy sore muscles and tendons on my forearms.
I think it is because of good blood flow. When I 8 hours do stuff.. I get worse every time I don't do anything and just sit on my ass home.. I think that is the case for all people.
So I have to push myself to work. To keep moving.. I am just scared of winter. I feel like shit in cold weather. I would love to figure out some warm place where I can stay whole winter..
Maybe some asian country.. I wish I had on line job..

 

[RebelWithACause]

There is FaceBook groups. I remember some of those Deep Healing Space guys had a FaceBook group amongst each other.

@Yura I would crash every time I did physical but it's not bad as long as you support the body to recover. I found I increased my baseline slowly this way.

This forum was already dead for like 2 years or something. So it's hard to get people back I think. But I will be active here as long as people come here too. But to get people lik Helen or mattyb back I doubt it. Would be cool though!

 

[Yura]

THere has to be a lot of people like us. Who have health issues and who are trying to think out of box. Doing all kinds of things and not just blindly some random protocol or whatever. But they don't know about this place heh..

 

[RebelWithACause]

THere has to be a lot of people like us. Who have health issues and who are trying to think out of box. Doing all kinds of things and not just blindly some random protocol or whatever. But they don't know about this place heh..

There is also Discord groups. Like that one guy who came in he had a protocol and a lot of people followed it. Bornfree something, forgot the name. Never hear people about that anymore. There is a lot of people with protocols. I just don't like most of them personally because they are all very tunnel vision focussed like a straight jacket. I have not found many places like this.

HTMA people come the closest I guess. But even they have a lot of beliefs and stuff and when you differentiate from that they get an error

 

[Yura]

@esp90 I see you talking on lowtoxinforum with a guy "ZinkusMaximus" and that he is saying "I’m tight with a lot of people in the NB community and many of them have different ideas, some stick to their guns and others experiment. "
It would be great to tell him if he could tell those people that they could share their experiences here.. OR at least tell him to come here..

 

[esp90]

@esp90 I see you talking on lowtoxinforum with a guy "ZinkusMaximus" and that he is saying "I’m tight with a lot of people in the NB community and many of them have different ideas, some stick to their guns and others experiment. "
It would be great to tell him if he could tell those people that they could share their experiences here.. OR at least tell him to come here..

Yeah did that nowz lets see if he takes the bait.

Did you see that arnold1-guy saying HG7 causing kidney and liver-issues? Yikes.
And he was like the posterboy for HG7 for months.

Man i thought about doing another dose of hg7 with the calibrations from heisenberg today but man its not looking so attractive to me anymore.

 

[Yura]

Yeah Arnold is like 20yo kid. It is like me when I did steroids. You jump on stuff without thinking. Because you are not able to think much or at least most young kids can't. They are reckless.
So he starts this extreme protocol even when he has no health issues basically. Feels somewhat ok and so now he has to tell everyone how it is the best thing in the world that everyone should do.
Guys like me twice his age who already fucked themselves with similar protocols know better. They just watch and wait what happens..
But yeah I agree with him. I said it before that I don't know how EGCG can chelate iron from the tissues out of the body like how.. I think it can only block absorption in the intestine. So you drink green tea with your meat meals that will work.. Also those insane amount of molybdenum. It just doesn't feel right..
If he is in storage mode who knows. If he is I think he would start to experience some liver issues already. After 3-4 years doing it.. But who knows.
I think that if he disappears it is a good sign that he really has health issues, but is embarrassed to tell the world that he was wrong and that he probably hurt some people with his ideas..

 

[esp90]

Yeah just reading it. I suspected that EGCG is not detoxing anything..
If what Arnold is saying is true, that the author of the protocol is in storage mode then he is fucked...

Exactly

"So, here's what im gonna do. Im not gonna post anymore. You can quit now. I gave it my all, and asked for nothing in return, and clearly some of you still feel owed the world." -heisenberg

Lol the exact response i suspected from him. The man is not stable what so ever

 

[Yura]

Sorry I edited that post. Anyways yeah comments like this show his true mental state. It is not balanced person that he thinks he is that's for sure..
I mean how big ego you have to have if you think you know better than ARL labs that is doing it 40 years.. That alone is crazy red flag..

 

[Yura]

@esp90 "I gotta admit, i was impressed when the anxiety went away in what felt like seconds with the molybdenum, you obviously know your stuff."
Yeah molybdenum can do it if you have anxiety or crazy racing mind from high free copper. That I experienced as well..
Heh but I am reading that topic on HG7 and I really can't imagine doing this nonstop balancing. Especially when you consider the Jacob guy himself is still calibrating after 4 years that is insane especially when you see from some of his comments(an he says that himself as well) that he had too high copper so he make some little crazy comment etc..
So he is doing this 4 years and he still has high copper personality episodes. It is not a good sign.. But in his case with his really bad diet and smoking addictions who knows what is going on in his body. It's just hard to tell when he doesn't do any testing(which he said now h will do) but not hair test. I think hair test is needed to see how balanced or out of balance he really is..
Having said all this. Even if it's not perfect it is still valuable info that we can apply in some ways for sure.. It would be great if he was willing to take it to another level with better diet, protein etc.. and not just be ok with it as it is. Because it is somewhat enough for him to counteract his shitty life style.. For now.. I don't think it will work 10 years down the road..

Some guy wants to pay for hair test of that creator. That is nice.. Can't wait to see it..

 

[esp90]

@esp90 "I gotta admit, i was impressed when the anxiety went away in what felt like seconds with the molybdenum, you obviously know your stuff."
Yeah molybdenum can do it if you have anxiety or crazy racing mind from high free copper. That I experienced as well..
Heh but I am reading that topic on HG7 and I really can't imagine doing this nonstop balancing. Especially when you consider the Jacob guy himself is still calibrating after 4 years that is insane especially when you see from some of his comments(an he says that himself as well) that he had too high copper so he make some little crazy comment etc..
So he is doing this 4 years and he still has high copper personality episodes. It is not a good sign.. But in his case with his really bad diet and smoking addictions who knows what is going on in his body. It's just hard to tell when he doesn't do any testing(which he said now h will do) but not hair test. I think hair test is needed to see how balanced or out of balance he really is..
Having said all this. Even if it's not perfect it is still valuable info that we can apply in some ways for sure.. It would be great if he was willing to take it to another level with better diet, protein etc.. and not just be ok with it as it is. Because it is somewhat enough for him to counteract his shitty life style.. For now.. I don't think it will work 10 years down the road..

Some guy wants to pay for hair test of that creator. That is nice.. Can't wait to see it..

Yeah, I just took about an hour ago 1/4 of the dose i did 2 days ago and yet again i feel foggy/dizzy. I thought i would be able to take lower dosages without symptoms but doesnt seem like it. There is no way I could do this while working, i have had few days off work so i have had a chance to experiment, but this constant calibrations is not gonna work. Its not Realistic, i feel drunk right now lol, as if ive had a few to many whiskeys. But my face looks better than ever, ive lost alot of water weight, so i have alot more definition in my physique which is something ive longed for for many years. But lol yeah maybe i could do the protocol on my days off or after work in the evening. Dont know what to do.

Also, he is so immature thats whats so off-putting to me. Like he should be more stoic if his hormones where balanced

 

[Yura]

I was also always puffy, watery due to high stress hormones, estradiol.. That was alarm stage of stress aka fast oxidizer Now I am in exhaustion stage aka very slow oxidizer with low sodium, low stress hormones, low estradiol. So I look like beef jerky.. So I can't just take loads of zinc that would lower Na/K ratio even more. I have to take everything in moderate doses copper as well for sure..
HG7 would kill me for sure heh.

 

[MNK99]

Interesting….
Tripping me out tho.
I wish u guys all best of luck.
I’ll hell later after work isn’t fucked and I can sleep more regularly.

Weed in coffee and stress — risk.

 

[MNK99]

Interesting….
Tripping me out tho.
I wish u guys all best of luck.
I’ll hell later after work isn’t fucked and I can sleep more regularly.

Weed in coffee and stress — risk.

I was also always puffy, watery due to high stress hormones, estradiol.. That was alarm stage of stress aka fast oxidizer Now I am in exhaustion stage aka very slow oxidizer with low sodium, low stress hormones, low estradiol. So I look like beef jerky.. So I can't just take loads of zinc that would lower Na/K ratio even more. I have to take everything in moderate doses copper as well for sure..
HG7 would kill me for sure heh.

faster more effective perhaps in some cases valence neurraceuticals instead of TeI
Makes uo for deficiencies in their program but who knows.

So stress cases can be slow oxi rite ?

I had clean tests maybe only for formerly v sick guy but this douchebag this hair testing. Guy with TEI or some company said “nah your tests dont look clean at all.”

@RebelWithACause

 

[Fazed22]

@esp90 Try 30-40mg zinc, 30-40mg b6, 200-400mg egcg, 1-2g vit c, 50-80mg biotin, 200mg b5, moly 800-1000mcg and if that still doesn't feel good then lower the moly more.

Just my opinion and observations but I think his dosages are way too high for PFS or more toxic people. And don't tell the Heisenberg guy about the lower doses he will just try and say only the high doses work and not anything lower which he is wrong about.

I think also some people need electrolytes with the formula so potassium chloride, sodium chloride and mag