Experimental Scar Tissue Protocol

Rid

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Well boys, we're at the point where I think we can definitely say that a lot of our sexual issues are related to penile scar tissue, fibrosis and atrophy. I know that is the case for me, I believe it's all related to the temporary chemical castration we have underwent from cessation from whatever AA/substance we have taken. the resulting androgen deprivation that is seen in castrated men/animals caused this scar tissue to build up resulting in bad blowflow on top of other circulatory/hormonal issues, like NO pathway, androgen response, and a million other things that can cause blood circulation issues.

I think we have a lot of issues going on, but I believe that a lot of sexual issues are from this scarring- and this fibrosis is very hard to treat. There are only a few known ways to clear out this scar tissue:

Keeping up good blood flow- PDE5's, NO, pumping, excercise, overall health, testosterone etc all promote extra blood flow to your beloved cock. Use it or lose it. literally. no blood flow = shrinkage.

ALA- One study shows Alpha lipoic acid can clear out scar tissue. Hard to gauge these results personally, but there is some science here

Fasting- I think the autophagy and slew of other benefits from periodic fasting can have tremendous benefit, but it's hard to sustain in modern life.

And what I most wanted this thread to be about... Wound Healing Therapy/PRP Injections into the penis.

Now this is gonna be controversial, and there's not a lot of research into this area specifically, but there is one big area we can look at- the Priapus shot. Some doctor has started injecting PRP directly into patients penises and has seen reportedly great results for even long time ED sufferers. I have suspected that the benefit is two fold, not only do we see increased high quality blood flow, but I believe even the needling effect can break up scar tissue, especially if it is in a more treatable area. Research the P-shot. I don't expect people to want to pay $1,500 for this- and honestly it sounds incredibly intimidating making injections of any kind onto your man downstairs. But we don't have a lot of good options.

I have read many cases of peyriones related ED being fixed from an injury to the penis and subsequent healing. I have even heard this on PFS boards. This shouldn't be a big surprise as to why it recovers some people sexually- if you have a shit load of scar tissue, and your body gets a signal to heal in an area where you have scar tissue, your body wil naturally heal and resurface some of that scar tissue. This is exactly the same process used to heal superficial scars- you re-injure the skin and weeks/months down the line, the skin rebuilds collagen and clears away lingering scar tissue. I have seen my scars disappear with dermarollers, and I'm confident that we could see similar progress with our penis scarring with a protocol designed to get at this scar tissue efficiently.

This is what I suggest, but obviously there is a lot of room for improvement upon further research. I don't know all of the details so we don't want to jump into stabbing our dicks of course, but I think we can put our heads together and trial something that should prove to be effective with minimal risk:

Step 1: Facilitate good circulation. Be in good place in PFS/whatever condition you have. An NO protocol on top of a healthy diet with exercise will be very beneficial. Add ALA if you'd like.
Step 2: Start a 3~ day water fast. Before the fast is to be broken around 3 days (to allow for most efficient use of time/autophagy/HGH/other health benefits) begin step 3.
Step 3: Make injections/wound therapy on penis. You could use PRP. You could use steroids as one member recently claimed recovery with. You could quite literally beat your cock up and potentially see the same benefits. I know that's fuckin crazy but I have read many anecdotes of sexual progress after a penis injury and subsequent healing. I think I've even seen it mentioned here. this is because the body is sending a signal to heal that area, and clean out all the shit we have in our dicks. We want the body to heal, and be best facilitated to do this. and I think it's best to get a multipronged approach to this.
Step 4: After Injections/wound therapy begin healthy refeed and well rounded lifestyle. I have experimented in the past with scar healing and dermarolling while breaking fasts and the results are significantly better than simply wound healing therapy (dermarolling) alone.

I'd say you could just do some sort of wound heal/blood flow therapy alone, but I'd personally like to minimize the time that I spend injecting shit into my cock and recovering from that. It's not a pleasant experience and they use local anesthesia in the clinic when they do P-shots with a recovery time of a couple months between treatments. I think this would just maximize our time usage and provide a much more effective and expedient approach to getting out the fibrosis.

Now, if injecting your cock with stuff (or just beating it up, if that's your cup of tea) sounds bad, this other part isn't great either. You gotta spend money. I got an entire flobotomy kit for around $250~ off amazon. this includes acceptable quality centrifuge for PRP, vials, stands, proper cleaning supplies, butterfly syringe, and some other random shit that I have yet to use. there was a guy on a hair loss site claiming good results using this kind of stuff for PRP in the scalp. he had no experience and once you get over the intimidation its easy enough. There's a bunch of research you must conduct before attempting this, but I know enough to where I can say I'm comfortable doing PRP on myself, and eventually working around to some other wound healing therapies on my member.

I'll be the first guinea pig here and I am very aware of how silly this is. but I truly believe this is one of the only effective ways to break down scar tissue where we have it.

I would love some advice on injections to the penis if anyone has any. @Helen / others. I'm aware that I have to avoid the top/bottom of the penis and inject only in the sides below half way to avoid damaging nerves. I want to know how close I can get to the nerves without damaging them. Otherwise I'll stick with injections into the base at the appropriate locations before finding out more information about getting better circulation/tissue removal in the more innervated areas of the penis, closer to the glans.


Anyone else willing to get something like this going on? I figure a DIY approach would save a lot of money and offer a lot of modulation, but you could go to the pros and dish out $1500 a treatment, but we're already pretty fuckin deep in this whole DIY body hack thing, so I say screw it.
 
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--I'm kind of somewhat not normal. But Not eating and not sleeping = makes me high and I functioned well in life without sleep* 24 25 26 etc... and no eating probably even better grades. Also 16 17 18 19 ... etc. 20 21 at times but needed to sleep bc i was growing 16 and brain 21 etc... anyways tons of times no sleep*... a v hi number of times*.
-crashed on wknds.
--Working in construction or landscaping ? Probably screwed either way, likely I'd wander off.
--Intermittent Fasting? ---> Destroying your competition with no food is very rewarding.
--Maybe I'm a sicko I don't know. --I also like the cold.

-GOOD to know @health. Some are saying MNK get DOPPLER do it now. I would time/money permitting but not top 7-10 priorities. PFS is 1/ 7 or 8 things... and I incl it on net... BUT doppler like MRI's for other shyt will happen when I'm settled and full time normal work etc.. instead of my own stuff that pays or doesn't dep on day.
--> AND i mean look, pssd -- go to doc at end when healthy vs go there all the time for unanswerable q's... surely the first approach helped me. (plus tend to forget anyways).
--> I only go to docs for referrals doc notes and adhd medicine so ill wait a bit more* till super healthy 100% of the time rather than only most the time.
-DOPPLER seems hard to get and only in several cities in North America anyways.

-Also a dude told me we need to get 2- or more... bc one showed issues here the other fine, or issues there not here. etc.
 
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Well boys, we're at the point where I think we can definitely say that a lot of our sexual issues are related to penile scar tissue, fibrosis and atrophy. I know that is the case for me, I believe it's all related to the temporary chemical castration we have underwent from cessation from whatever AA/substance we have taken. the resulting androgen deprivation that is seen in castrated men/animals caused this scar tissue to build up resulting in bad blowflow on top of other circulatory/hormonal issues, like NO pathway, androgen response, and a million other things that can cause blood circulation issues.

I think we have a lot of issues going on, but I believe that a lot of sexual issues are from this scarring- and this fibrosis is very hard to treat. There are only a few known ways to clear out this scar tissue:

Keeping up good blood flow- PDE5's, NO, pumping, excercise, overall health, testosterone etc all promote extra blood flow to your beloved cock. Use it or lose it. literally. no blood flow = shrinkage.

ALA- One study shows Alpha lipoic acid can clear out scar tissue. Hard to gauge these results personally, but there is some science here

Fasting- I think the autophagy and slew of other benefits from periodic fasting can have tremendous benefit, but it's hard to sustain in modern life.

And what I most wanted this thread to be about... PRP Injections into the penis.

Now this is gonna be controversial, and there's not a lot of research into this area specifically, but there is one big area we can look at- the Priapus shot. Some doctor has started injecting PRP directly into patients penises and has seen reportedly great results for even long time ED sufferers. I have suspected that the benefit is two fold, not only do we see increased high quality blood flow, but I believe even the needling effect can break up scar tissue, especially if it is in a more treatable area. Research the P-shot. I don't expect people to want to pay $1,500 for this- and honestly it sounds incredibly intimidating making injections of any kind onto your man downstairs. But we don't have a lot of good options.

I have read many cases of peyriones related ED being fixed from an injury to the penis and subsequent healing. I have even heard this on PFS boards. This shouldn't be a big surprise as to why it recovers some people sexually- if you have a shit load of scar tissue, and your body gets a signal to heal in an area where you have scar tissue, your body wil naturally heal and resurface some of that scar tissue. This is exactly the same process used to heal superficial scars- you re-injure the skin and weeks/months down the line, the skin rebuilds collagen and clears away lingering scar tissue. I have seen my scars disappear with dermarollers, and I'm confident that we could see similar progress with our penis scarring with a protocol designed to get at this scar tissue efficiently.

This is what I suggest, but obviously there is a lot of room for improvement upon further research. I don't know all of the details so we don't want to jump into stabbing our dicks of course, but I think we can put our heads together and trial something that should prove to be effective with minimal risk:

Step 1: Facilitate good circulation. Be in good place in PFS/whatever condition you have. An NO protocol on top of a healthy diet with exercise will be very beneficial. Add ALA if you'd like.
Step 2: Start a 3~ day water fast. Before the fast is to be broken around 3 days (to allow for most efficient use of time/autophagy/HGH/other health benefits) begin step 3.
Step 3: Make injections/wound therapy on penis. You could use PRP. You could use steroids as one member recently claimed recovery with. You could quite literally beat your cock up and potentially see the same benefits. I know that's fuckin crazy but I have read many anecdotes of sexual progress after a penis injury and subsequent healing. I think I've even seen it mentioned here. this is because the body is sending a signal to heal that area, and clean out all the shit we have in our dicks. We want the body to heal, and be best facilitated to do this. which I think it's best to get a multipronged approach to this.
Step 4: After Injections/wound therapy begin healthy refeed and well rounded lifestyle. I have experimented in the past with scar healing and dermarolling while breaking fasts and the results are significantly better than simply wound healing therapy (dermarolling) alone.

I'd say you could just do some sort of wound heal/blood flow therapy alone, but I'd personally like to minimize the time that I spend injecting shit into my cock and recovering from that. It's not a pleasant experience and they use local anesthesia in the clinic when they do P-shots with a recovery time of a couple months between treatments. I think this would just maximize our time usage and provide a much more effective and expedient approach to getting out the fibrosis.

Now, if injecting your cock with stuff (or just beating it up, if that's your cup of tea) sounds bad, this other part isn't great either. You gotta spend money. I got an entire flobotomy kit for around $250~ off amazon. this includes acceptable quality centrifuge for PRP, vials, stands, proper cleaning supplies, butterfly syringe, and some other random shit that I have yet to use. there was a guy on a hair loss site claiming good results using this kind of stuff for PRP in the scalp. he had no experience and once you get over the intimidation its easy enough. There's a bunch of research you must conduct before attempting this, but I know enough to where I can say I'm comfortable doing PRP on myself, and eventually working around to some other wound healing therapies on my member.

I'll be the first guinea pig here and I am very aware of how silly this is. but I truly believe this is one of the only effective ways to break down scar tissue where we have it.

I would love some advice on injections to the penis if anyone has any. @Helen / others. I'm aware that I have to avoid the top/bottom of the penis and inject only in the sides below half way to avoid damaging nerves. I want to know how close I can get to the nerves without damaging them. Otherwise I'll stick with injections into the base at the appropriate locations before finding out more information about getting better circulation/tissue removal in the more innervated areas of the penis, closer to the glans.


Anyone else willing to get something like this going on? I figure a DIY approach would save a lot of money and offer a lot of modulation, but you could go to the pros and dish out $1500 a treatment, but we're already pretty fuckin deep in this whole DIY body hack thing, so I say screw it.


We discussed this a million times. check out this thread https://hackstasis.com/threads/very-bad-news-dht-fibrosis-scars-dmso-moles-no-b1-b2.1224/
 

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@Helen @Boris I'm aware, this thread has inspired me, although I've been sitting on PRP equip for a couple months now. I want to start this trial so we can go after what may be one of the better options for treating scarring which hasn't been properly experimented with yet- PRP/injections (on top of the other discussed improvement areas)
 

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I'm aware, this is why I want to start this trial, so we can go after what may be one of the better options for treating scarring which hasn't been properly experimented with- PRP/injections.


Yeah, you can try that for sure. I never was a fan of any local treatments. IMO it is like shooting little stones at the elephant.

If I were really concerned with scarring, the worst case I would just go on test plus progest, or DHT plus progest, or DHT plus pregnenolone. With electrolytes.

This will get water into the body and start fixing things.

Since slow oxidizers with volume reduction usually have this scarring stuff. Since there is simply no water in the body.

How the hell can you clean it and rebuild it , if you have alkalosis with volume contraction.

The minute volume is restored, calcium becomes ionized, and all the scaring disappears.


If you inject stuff into you now. it is like injecting something into a cess pool with no movement.
 
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@Rid Bro I've had the most precise doppler USG done on my erect penis (using papaverine) and it has shown 0 scarring. At the same time, my penis is both lower in length and girth than before starting antidepressants 8 years ago. Btw. erections are not even funny - it's 70% hard at it's hardest.

I think that without evidence that you've got scarring, it's better to follow @Helen advice and go global with TEI/electrolyte protocol.
 

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@Rid You can def try PRP for sure. Injecting something into your dick could be tricky though )) I would never do it to myself . HAHA

I know a lot of people feel like they ought to save their dick in PFS and concentrate on scarring on this or on that.
I was the same at my lowest point after the first crash. And It was the worst time in my recovery. I think the faster I forgot about the dick totally , the faster I recovered. I think mental state is also very important.


As far as injections methodology , I 'm not good advisor here, I never done any injections into that thing ))

Boris said, that some people used Bathmate with some success to keep the blood going in there while recovering
 
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@Rid Bro I've had the most precise doppler USG done on my erect penis (using papaverine) and it has shown 0 scarring. At the same time, my penis is both lower in length and girth than before starting antidepressants 8 years ago. Btw. erections are not even funny - it's 70% hard at it's hardest.

I think that without evidence that you've got scarring, it's better to follow @Helen advice and go global with TEI/electrolyte protocol.

No water, no dick)) you gotta fill that thing with something.
 

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@Helen what would be the mineral/vitamin way to fix volume reduction?
Potassium + chloride + sodium?
 

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Maybe my body just doesn't cooperate with all these pills. I've tried it all, hair tests, balancing, electrolytes, amines. Nothing has stuck andmy symptoms indicate scarring. Remember Helen, from the few studies I've seen on this, scarring might not happen until a few months in. You may have justbeen lucky to get away without serious damage. A few protocols have given me that extra uumph but I can't imagine my dead glans are due to anything else but scarring at this point. I would've had it looked (ultra sound) at but no one doesit in my area.

I'll definitely start easy and just gowith the method the p shot uses as we're positive that doesn't elicit any big negatives. I feel pretty normal but my dick just isn't as responsive as it was, maybe there will only be some with this same issue of scarring. This may fix venous leakage as well which hasn't been remediedby anything ( or rather EVERYTHING) that I've tried.

Probably do my first round this week. Again, if there's any flobotomists out there, hit me up
 

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@Rid Bro I've had the most precise doppler USG done on my erect penis (using papaverine) and it has shown 0 scarring. At the same time, my penis is both lower in length and girth than before starting antidepressants 8 years ago. Btw. erections are not even funny - it's 70% hard at it's hardest.

I think that without evidence that you've got scarring, it's better to follow @Helen advice and go global with TEI/electrolyte protocol.
And just to clarify I've been on ARL/electrolyte for most of this year. Probably part of the reason why a lot of my symptoms have improved drastically, besides sexual. I will say that sleep has still been hard with my work as I travel a lot and my schedule can be flipped around a lot. whenever I start spending more than a few hours up late past when the sun goes down, my insomnia kicks in and its hard to fall asleep no matter how tired I am. I know this has to do with circ rhythm and light signaling (sometimes I'll be on the road for hours and those damn headlights mess with my natural melatonin...) I can never reset this without going all the way around or fasting. any explanation on this? @Helen @Boris

If I could have a solid routine of going to bed at 10pm every night I would be golden, but that's just not possible atm, and it may keep me from experiencing all of the benefits from arl/electrolyte protocol cycles i've done.
 

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Hey @Rid

I just want to add two other things... igf1-lr3 is great for healing and I've injected it right into my fat pad above my penis... I pinch some of it out and inject with a insulin needle... I actually then rub/push down against myself to my penis... I know it sounds crazy but I'm testing it, in an attempt to get blood flow and igf to flow south though it won't really work like that... I don't think it'll hurt.

I use the bathmate on those days as well though not religiously ...

I've also heard of compressions, which I won't do, but sounds along the lines of what you're describing where there's almost an injury to the penis and tissue that is then repaired. I see your theory but also want to add Vitamin E can break up scar tissue and heal it... perhaps some mixture of vitamin E, DMSO & iodine for a topical treatment? I've done iodine and dmso, 6 drops iodine to 15 drops dmso... it actually opens things up too... I may re-start that now that I mention it...
 

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And just to clarify I've been on ARL/electrolyte for most of this year. Probably part of the reason why a lot of my symptoms have improved drastically, besides sexual. I will say that sleep has still been hard with my work as I travel a lot and my schedule can be flipped around a lot. whenever I start spending more than a few hours up late past when the sun goes down, my insomnia kicks in and its hard to fall asleep no matter how tired I am. I know this has to do with circ rhythm and light signaling (sometimes I'll be on the road for hours and those damn headlights mess with my natural melatonin...) I can never reset this without going all the way around or fasting. any explanation on this? @Helen @Boris

If I could have a solid routine of going to bed at 10pm every night I would be golden, but that's just not possible atm, and it may keep me from experiencing all of the benefits from arl/electrolyte protocol cycles i've done.
Yeah buddy. Seems to be all our experiences. Everything has seemed to clear up but the sexual. Maybe we need to just keep going! Hard to tell
 

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@Rid , @joekool , @hairsuit , @hopeforrecovery , @hope794 : What happened to Fasudil and JD5037?

https://hackstasis.com/threads/very-bad-news-dht-fibrosis-scars-dmso-moles-no-b1-b2.1224/post-36676
https://hackstasis.com/threads/fasudil-source.955/#post-23744

ALA- One study shows Alpha lipoic acid can clear out scar tissue. Hard to gauge these results personally, but there is some science here

Which one study, can you please link it?

Careful with ALA. You have to take it every 3 hours, even in the middle of your sleep, because it chelates heavy metals like mercury and has a short half life, essentially just stirring them up and causing more oxidative stress. Oxidative stress is your enemy when it comes to scarring.

You could use steroids as one member recently claimed recovery with

Please please please, link!

entire flobotomy kit for around $250~ off amazon

link?

btw, i have heard that there are new machines that concentrate PRP much more than the old ones, I'll get back to you guys on those.

If I were really concerned with scarring, the worst case I would just go on test plus progest, or DHT plus progest, or DHT plus pregnenolone. With electrolytes.

Isn't progesterone pro-fibrotic? I might be mistaken, but better be cautious and investigate it.

Since slow oxidizers with volume reduction usually have this scarring stuff. Since there is simply no water in the body.

Are slow oxidizers typically the very skinny guys? Or those are the fast oxidizers?

igf1-lr3 is great for healing and I've injected it right into my fat pad above my penis

where did you source it?
 

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@Helen : given this comes up so often, why don't we create a forum section called "fibrosis" ? There we could have one thread per possible treatment and be much more organized in our discussions.
 

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Well boys, we're at the point where I think we can definitely say that a lot of our sexual issues are related to penile scar tissue, fibrosis and atrophy. I know that is the case for me, I believe it's all related to the temporary chemical castration we have underwent from cessation from whatever AA/substance we have taken. the resulting androgen deprivation that is seen in castrated men/animals caused this scar tissue to build up resulting in bad blowflow on top of other circulatory/hormonal issues, like NO pathway, androgen response, and a million other things that can cause blood circulation issues.

I think we have a lot of issues going on, but I believe that a lot of sexual issues are from this scarring- and this fibrosis is very hard to treat. There are only a few known ways to clear out this scar tissue:

Keeping up good blood flow- PDE5's, NO, pumping, excercise, overall health, testosterone etc all promote extra blood flow to your beloved cock. Use it or lose it. literally. no blood flow = shrinkage.

ALA- One study shows Alpha lipoic acid can clear out scar tissue. Hard to gauge these results personally, but there is some science here

Fasting- I think the autophagy and slew of other benefits from periodic fasting can have tremendous benefit, but it's hard to sustain in modern life.

And what I most wanted this thread to be about... Wound Healing Therapy/PRP Injections into the penis.

Now this is gonna be controversial, and there's not a lot of research into this area specifically, but there is one big area we can look at- the Priapus shot. Some doctor has started injecting PRP directly into patients penises and has seen reportedly great results for even long time ED sufferers. I have suspected that the benefit is two fold, not only do we see increased high quality blood flow, but I believe even the needling effect can break up scar tissue, especially if it is in a more treatable area. Research the P-shot. I don't expect people to want to pay $1,500 for this- and honestly it sounds incredibly intimidating making injections of any kind onto your man downstairs. But we don't have a lot of good options.

I have read many cases of peyriones related ED being fixed from an injury to the penis and subsequent healing. I have even heard this on PFS boards. This shouldn't be a big surprise as to why it recovers some people sexually- if you have a shit load of scar tissue, and your body gets a signal to heal in an area where you have scar tissue, your body wil naturally heal and resurface some of that scar tissue. This is exactly the same process used to heal superficial scars- you re-injure the skin and weeks/months down the line, the skin rebuilds collagen and clears away lingering scar tissue. I have seen my scars disappear with dermarollers, and I'm confident that we could see similar progress with our penis scarring with a protocol designed to get at this scar tissue efficiently.

This is what I suggest, but obviously there is a lot of room for improvement upon further research. I don't know all of the details so we don't want to jump into stabbing our dicks of course, but I think we can put our heads together and trial something that should prove to be effective with minimal risk:

Step 1: Facilitate good circulation. Be in good place in PFS/whatever condition you have. An NO protocol on top of a healthy diet with exercise will be very beneficial. Add ALA if you'd like.
Step 2: Start a 3~ day water fast. Before the fast is to be broken around 3 days (to allow for most efficient use of time/autophagy/HGH/other health benefits) begin step 3.
Step 3: Make injections/wound therapy on penis. You could use PRP. You could use steroids as one member recently claimed recovery with. You could quite literally beat your cock up and potentially see the same benefits. I know that's fuckin crazy but I have read many anecdotes of sexual progress after a penis injury and subsequent healing. I think I've even seen it mentioned here. this is because the body is sending a signal to heal that area, and clean out all the shit we have in our dicks. We want the body to heal, and be best facilitated to do this. and I think it's best to get a multipronged approach to this.
Step 4: After Injections/wound therapy begin healthy refeed and well rounded lifestyle. I have experimented in the past with scar healing and dermarolling while breaking fasts and the results are significantly better than simply wound healing therapy (dermarolling) alone.

I'd say you could just do some sort of wound heal/blood flow therapy alone, but I'd personally like to minimize the time that I spend injecting shit into my cock and recovering from that. It's not a pleasant experience and they use local anesthesia in the clinic when they do P-shots with a recovery time of a couple months between treatments. I think this would just maximize our time usage and provide a much more effective and expedient approach to getting out the fibrosis.

Now, if injecting your cock with stuff (or just beating it up, if that's your cup of tea) sounds bad, this other part isn't great either. You gotta spend money. I got an entire flobotomy kit for around $250~ off amazon. this includes acceptable quality centrifuge for PRP, vials, stands, proper cleaning supplies, butterfly syringe, and some other random shit that I have yet to use. there was a guy on a hair loss site claiming good results using this kind of stuff for PRP in the scalp. he had no experience and once you get over the intimidation its easy enough. There's a bunch of research you must conduct before attempting this, but I know enough to where I can say I'm comfortable doing PRP on myself, and eventually working around to some other wound healing therapies on my member.

I'll be the first guinea pig here and I am very aware of how silly this is. but I truly believe this is one of the only effective ways to break down scar tissue where we have it.

I would love some advice on injections to the penis if anyone has any. @Helen / others. I'm aware that I have to avoid the top/bottom of the penis and inject only in the sides below half way to avoid damaging nerves. I want to know how close I can get to the nerves without damaging them. Otherwise I'll stick with injections into the base at the appropriate locations before finding out more information about getting better circulation/tissue removal in the more innervated areas of the penis, closer to the glans.


Anyone else willing to get something like this going on? I figure a DIY approach would save a lot of money and offer a lot of modulation, but you could go to the pros and dish out $1500 a treatment, but we're already pretty fuckin deep in this whole DIY body hack thing, so I say screw it.

Good thread!
At the moment Step 3 for me sounds like the most promising but before i want to start my NO protocol.
But i think it wont be enough. PRP has the power to heal scars on the skin and skin tissue on the skin is not very different than inside other places in our body. But i would never do this alone. Go to a doctor. It costs way (!) more but he knows how to inject that. Btw you could do more damage and scarring to your penis by injecting it wrong!
 

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Good thread!
At the moment Step 3 for me sounds like the most promising but before i want to start my NO protocol.
But i think it wont be enough. PRP has the power to heal scars on the skin and skin tissue on the skin is not very different than inside other places in our body. But i would never do this alone. Go to a doctor. It costs way (!) more but he knows how to inject that. Btw you could do more damage and scarring to your penis by injecting it wrong!


it's really not that difficult once you look into it. yeah, you gotta know what you're doing, and I would go to a doctor if it weren't literally over $1k per injection just for a procedure that would take less than an hour and a few hundred worth of equipment. obviously, i would "never rec anyone else to do this." because there's gonna be that one idiot who gets nerve damage. just don't be that idiot and be smart, like everything. going to a specialist with this kind of thing is a scam for what you pay.
 

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I believe it's more than that. There is without doubt a change in histone acetylation, 5-AR enzyme gene silencing, AR polymorphism, and countless methylation and epigenetic changes the body adopts due to inhibiting a critical pathway in the brain, CNS, and tissues.

The solution to the problem is presenting a strong enough force in the other direction to make the body adapt to old conditions again.
 

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I believe it's more than that. There is without doubt a change in histone acetylation, 5-AR enzyme gene silencing, AR polymorphism, and countless methylation and epigenetic changes the body adopts due to inhibiting a critical pathway in the brain, CNS, and tissues.

The solution to the problem is presenting a strong enough force in the other direction to make the body adapt to old conditions again.
The 5ar silencing point is outstanding here. 5ar has other metabolites than dht obviously. Actually, SAGE develops Allo Treatment. And Allo is missing in pfs patient I guess. Why not get 5ar running again to produce Allo? You would address the root problem.
But the root problem is not being addressed re 5ar defic. Melcangi just announced and did nothing in the studies.
What if there was a scientific evidence 5ar is epigenetically changed?
Anyway, bringing 5ar running could be a big step forward since I am convinced everything is related to everything.