Fasting protocol

[Pedro melo]

Guys im a PFS suferrer. I wanted to know if Walter fasting is a good option. And for how long should i do it... How to refeed etc.
Im 1.72m and 68 kg. Not sure if this is the best option or not

 

[Nina]

Water fasting is recommended for everyone around here most of the time. There is a refeeding protocol on the forum somewhere. You can just start out by going for as long as you can, but most benefits starts after fasting for a long time (20 days and up). Keto is a good option too.

 

[Slayo]

Just water is the best, there are some therapies u can do while fasting that i think will enanche the gains like sauna (be carefull to not overdo), bravo probiotics suppositories, infrared lamp on liver and kidney, clay patches on the liver.

About refeeding avoid any carb and sugar, the reason is that if u take carbs and sugar during the feefeding u have lots of phosforus schifting to the intracellular space, this cause phosforus deficency and that won't allow u to retain NA, K, Cl so u can basically loose all the gains, so always include proteins in the refeed

 

[Pedro melo]

Water fasting is recommended for everyone around here most of the time. There is a refeeding protocol on the forum somewhere. You can just start out by going for as long as you can, but most benefits starts after fasting for a long time (20 days and up). Keto is a good option too.

Thanks my friend. Difficult stuff I've never fasted before. I'm afraid to loose weigh and I'm skinny, I also was a soccer player and now I can't play probably because of energy... I was thinking on 5 days to start and it will be rough... Maybe do it for 5 stop and then do it again?

 

[Pedro melo]

Just water is the best, there are some therapies u can do while fasting that i think will enanche the gains like sauna (be carefull to not overdo), bravo probiotics suppositories, infrared lamp on liver and kidney, clay patches on the liver.

About refeeding avoid any carb and sugar, the reason is that if u take carbs and sugar during the feefeding u have lots of phosforus schifting to the intracellular space, this cause phosforus deficency and that won't allow u to retain NA, K, Cl so u can basically loose all the gains, so always include proteins in the refeed

Thanks bro. By the way where can I get all this stuff? Not the sauna obviously
About the refeeding, its just one meal and then back to fasting? Or the first meal should not have sugar?

 

[Nina]

Thanks my friend. Difficult stuff I've never fasted before. I'm afraid to loose weigh and I'm skinny, I also was a soccer player and now I can't play probably because of energy... I was thinking on 5 days to start and it will be rough... Maybe do it for 5 stop and then do it again?

Why not try a keto diet? So you can keep your weight up. Keto has benefits same as fasting. Good for hormone receptors aswell.

 

[JasonSky]

Thanks my friend. Difficult stuff I've never fasted before. I'm afraid to loose weigh and I'm skinny, I also was a soccer player and now I can't play probably because of energy... I was thinking on 5 days to start and it will be rough... Maybe do it for 5 stop and then do it again?

5-7 is a solid and safe place to start, you don't need to do an extremely long fast to receive some good benefits.

r/fasting
Read some other people's experiences if you are unsure of what the experience will be like, check out this subreddit.

Do some research on the refeeding process.

 

[JasonSky]

Why not try a keto diet? So you can keep your weight up. Keto has benefits same as fasting. Good for hormone receptors aswell.

Does a Keto diet induce Autohpagy the same as water-fasting?

 

[bruschi11]

Breuss fasts too. Google breuss cancer fast.

You don’t have to go 40 days. 21 days of 16 oz breuss per day may give you what you need to function. I did 21 days- 10 water, 11 breuss with nightly probiotic enemas.

 

[Nina]

Does a Keto diet induce Autohpagy the same as water-fasting?

Im not sure. Some people say yes some say no

 

[Pedro melo]

Does a Keto diet induce Autohpagy the same as water-fasting?

I forgo to to tell... I had an horrible cramp in my cav today this is probably low potassium and magnesium... Should I mix some minerals in the water?

 

[JasonSky]

I forgo to to tell... I had an horrible cramp in my cav today this is probably low potassium and magnesium... Should I mix some minerals in the water?

@Orion You have done many water-fasts correct? May you can offer this guy your 2cents on the experience + general guide to refeeding.

But some are mixed on that as well. Some people put electrolytes in their water while waterfasting while others just go hard on pure water

@Nina When you did your crazy long fast did you use electrolytes?

 

[JasonSky]

I forgo to to tell... I had an horrible cramp in my cav today this is probably low potassium and magnesium... Should I mix some minerals in the water?

And potassium and magnesium are electrolytes not minerals. Just FYI

 

[Nina]

@Orion You have done many water-fasts correct? May you can offer this guy your 2cents on the experience + general guide to refeeding.

But some are mixed on that as well. Some people put electrolytes in their water while waterfasting while others just go hard on pure water

@Nina When you did your crazy long fast did you use electrolytes?

I used bouillon cubes for sodium and losalt for potassium. Usually around 5gr salt and 2gr potassium. I mixed it together in water, was ok. Just drink fast or might puke lol

 

[Pedro melo]

And potassium and magnesium are electrolytes not minerals. Just FYI

Yes of course my friend my mistake... Eltrolytes correct. Maybe I can mix some ... That would not break the fast I guess

 

[Pedro melo]

Also is it wise to work out? I mean the energy probably will be low... Did you guys workoutwhile fasting?

 

[Orion]

Yes use NaCl, MgCl and KCl, 1gram each to start should be helpful. working out fasted is hard but would recommend.

 

[bruschi11]

Keto diets are best for fast oxidizers. Or ray peat diet for fasts. Okinawa diet for slows.

Get TEI hair test done before doing anything. Let’s see who you are. Don’t fast yet cuz that will skew hair test.

 

[Niles]

And potassium and magnesium are electrolytes not minerals. Just FYI

K and Mg are both minerals and electrolytes.

 

[JasonSky]

K and Mg are both minerals and electrolytes.

Oh wow. Wait are all electrolytes just minerals that are electronically conducive with special bodily functions? Or just K and MG