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I mean it could be tirzepatide without Reta really bad for me as I need the glycogen / glucagon competent to handle less calories / beta oxidation etc.
 

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Need co2 to handle copper dumping and I’ve badly needed Reta to raise co2.
 

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I’m 23 days into these peps and only down 9 lbs.

But reality is weeks 1-3 all had massive fuckeries.

Week 1: reta without carnitine bad bad news.
Week 2: no Reta, just tirz. And treating through low carb low calorie just killed co2 I died for days.
Week 3: once I started stabling on .5 reta. I give 1.0 reta by accident the next day. I go crazy for a couple days. Give tirz and things start calming down . But then I don’t put Reta back in. And the low carb low Calorie tirz thing happens again. I crash co2 and die again.

Reta is the drug for me as it promotes co2. Tirz can be helper. I’m still not 100% sure I’m gonna give Tirz. But plan right now is to give 1mg tomorrow.

Could totally see a .3mg reta EOD approach. As well.

The goal right now is stabilize electrolytes to promote atp . I do think atp is the key to weight loss .

The other day I did successful sea water foot bath and I weighed myself an hour later and I lost 1.5 lbs . That’s chloride in the cell
 

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Yea basically atp raising (potassium raising in scans and I really felt atp with morning) killed co2. Iron and copper came up and destroyed me.

Reta went back in. Helping.

This is scary.

I just think I gotta run everything around Reta.

I’m in a clear weight loss plateau as well but I’m bed ridden .
 

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It was basically fasting yesterday till a late lunch followed by tirzepatide this morning that caused this horridness.

You’d think on paper that’s what would be best for a person. Iron and copper dumping from atp/ potassium in the cell.

But it’s not. Gbold was wrong.

Cuz co2 is step 1 to nmda. Co2 is step 1 to b12. Co2 is step 1 to a lot.

My friend who ended his life last year liked co2. He had a machine to inhale it.

I don’t think that’s what we want.

The power of the terrain can make it.

Am I destroying myself and receptors with Reta? Does it matter? Does getting to co2 the only thing that matters?

I mean it’s not. Cuz I healed with out co2 but it wasn’t great. I healed with iron and copper dumping. With atp. Chromium based plan in 2020. Choline/atp based plan in early 2022. Dhea/b12 plan in late 2022. All iron dumping plans.

But the nicest I felt in those time periods were vitamin E, b5 b2 (when it worked) Co2 things brought me to normality clearly looking back. B12 had co2 effects at times and heck so did hormones. Because of the ERb affects on that carnitine enzyme which promotes glucagon.

reality is too late is a reality. It might be certainty. But what else can I do? End my life after all this work. Or just try.

Fuck everything tho. Why did this have to happen to me. Soooo many people mess around with supplements. And honestly I don’t think it was the supps. I had Lyme we found it treated it I got a lot better health then it came back and an antibiotic ended me.

Is that’s all it was? Is that where I end?
 

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Through my htmas I’m basically showing all my co2 based plans were unsuccessful until I did a co2 based plan in mid 2024 that I was taking carnitine with.

The carnitine allows the co2 based plan to happen.

So have to keep eyes on biotin —>lysine —-> carnitine. As I’ve been saying. With Reta.

I’m so fucked up.
 

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Co2 (carbon) allows fat metabolism (hydrogen) to happen which allows thyroid (oxidation) to happen which allows biotin / nitric oxide (nitrogen) to happen.

Body is made of carbon hydrogen oxygen nitrogen.
 

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things couldn’t be worse . It’s been over for 2 years I can’t get in control of what happened to me .
 

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@bruschi11 I will say it again. You need break from all of this. No thinking, testing. Just following some basic electrolyte protocol/diet and just existing. Be in the moment with your dog, outside relaxing etc.. I am 100% sure that if you were able to shift your focus on something less stressful for some time. Where you are not in your head all the time. You will get better for sure..
 

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@bruschi11 I will say it again. You need break from all of this. No thinking, testing. Just following some basic electrolyte protocol/diet and just existing. Be in the moment with your dog, outside relaxing etc.. I am 100% sure that if you were able to shift your focus on something less stressful for some time. Where you are not in your head all the time. You will get better for sure..

This was possible with cfs.

This isn’t cfs.

This is neurodegenerative disease that I basically lost the battle with a long time ago.

I’m just following what would’ve made sense . I mean the weight loss and insulin stuff co2. They all had to happen years ago.

I’m giving Retatrutide a chance this week. No more other drugs at all. It’s worth trying although it’s likely way too late
 

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Yura is right. Also to me it seems you look at every system very detailed which is comendable. And the thought if you know everything to the core of the body it should all work. And to an extent it does but you are also working with a biological machine with processes going on so you can't 100% know stuff. Helen also did this but you take it further. I think even Helen kind of knew sometimes you just got to try something and there was not much detail around it. You just try it out and if it works it works. You seem to be more focussed on the details but results shouldn't be ignored. If you are in the same position as last year or worse then your approach is not working and I would just go back to the basics and start over from there and slowly add stuff again.

Not trying to push you down because I know how hard it is and also it is good you try to understand the processes. You know more than me. Just giving my 2c. I always been more about the results and not about the intricate details and I made good progress over the years to get my health back. Do I know why everything works? Hell no... I assume a lot of stuff without basis in theory but the results have been good anyways. I guess because my brain didn't work in PFS properly I just did stuff on instinct and never let that go.

If you have brain damage then even electrolyte protocol type stuff could help. Anyways good luck dude I hope you get in a better place ASAP. And it is possible for sure.
 

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Yura is right. Also to me it seems you look at every system very detailed which is comendable. And the thought if you know everything to the core of the body it should all work. And to an extent it does but you are also working with a biological machine with processes going on so you can't 100% know stuff. Helen also did this but you take it further. I think even Helen kind of knew sometimes you just got to try something and there was not much detail around it. You just try it out and if it works it works. You seem to be more focussed on the details but results shouldn't be ignored. If you are in the same position as last year or worse then your approach is not working and I would just go back to the basics and start over from there and slowly add stuff again.

Not trying to push you down because I know how hard it is and also it is good you try to understand the processes. You know more than me. Just giving my 2c. I always been more about the results and not about the intricate details and I made good progress over the years to get my health back. Do I know why everything works? Hell no... I assume a lot of stuff without basis in theory but the results have been good anyways. I guess because my brain didn't work in PFS properly I just did stuff on instinct and never let that go.

If you have brain damage then even electrolyte protocol type stuff could help. Anyways good luck dude I hope you get in a better place ASAP. And it is possible for sure.

I get it.

i basically got fired from my job. It’s ai based. I didn’t do anything wrong just bad luck.

I honestly think I need rest. To do what I’m doing. Which ultimately does end up becoming the electrolytes protocol.

Basically I’m saying in aging men with hypogonadism, high insulin, obesity horrid metabolic health like me… freddds protocol is the electrolytes protocol. Due to its insulin/glucagon handling abilities to control electolytes and sugar.

That said. Does Reta help here to expedite the process due to its help with both insulin co2 and ability to quickly drop lbs?

I’m resting a lost since the firing. I was working a lot. Now I can rest listen to body. Just use one peptide here being Reta. Trialing a bit of ss31 as well is my plan. Might try some methylene blue. Just nadh to nad stuff is the goal. I took time released b2 today will be interesting.

With rest and consistent reta dose it seems .5mg every 4th day might be ideal. No other weight loss peptide. Tirz was just bad news.
 

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It’s like carnitines ability to raise co2 from fat is what makes it so special.

It keeps ph from dying. The ph raising coincides with cobalt raising in scans.

Unfortunately, the higher ph goes, chromium drops. BUT carnitine raised chromium in summer 2024 when I did have an improvement in hair followed by Oligo’s.

I was in the water a lot. Sea water. And began taking iodine. Which I do believe was the key to improvements from carnitine that summer. I also did some keto. Too much of it. It messed me up bad.

That said I think I’m doing good on iodine. This is second straight day.

It could really be carnitine —-> CoA —-> dopamine for tyrosine for iodine use/ t4.
 

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@bruschi11 do you think taking some extra L carnitine is helpful? It helps fat metabolism right. Mine is fucked for sure and I don't eat red meat..

Need estrogen receptor beta working for cst1 to work to basically make it so carnitine allows glucagon to work? To make it?

I don’t know exacts on that last piece.

But Freddds approach is what covers this,

TRT (estrogen) with b12 lets ERb work. Then carnitine sooo big for somethingggg to do with glucagon. Like ERb for CST1 allows carnitine to do its job for glucagon whichever job that may be. It leads to ip3 production so inositol. Basically making inositol from
Fat.

I crashed co2 and ultimately electrolytes overnight again. It was either iodine/ iron/ time release b2. All 3 went in around the same time but it really does feel like another iodine crash.

ERb also promotes GLP1.

Man I hate I’m using this drug but I do feel like about an hour post reta injection there is more co2 already.

I don’t want to push GLP1. B12 testo Freddds approach can do that. Reta touches that.

We want Reta for glucagon.

But can we get to glucagon receptor agonism without Reta?
 

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@bruschi11 to me your approach and thinking process seems like someone is waiting for perfectly flat surface of the ocean. It will never happen..
I ask you question. You qoute that question and just go on and on without even answering my question. You do it all the time.
I said it 100% times and will say it again. Yeah you are smart and you know a lot, BUT i think it actually works against you.. unfortunately..
 

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@bruschi11 to me your approach and thinking process seems like someone is waiting for perfectly flat surface of the ocean. It will never happen..
I ask you question. You qoute that question and just go on and on without even answering my question. You do it all the time.
I said it 100% times and will say it again. Yeah you are smart and you know a lot, BUT i think it actually works against you..

I’m trying to say what I’m thinking regarding carnitine. Like will it be helpful?

Well you need ERb working for it to be helpful. Do you have ERb working? That would be best answer.

The crazy part is this is where Gbold was in his last couple posts about pfs etc . ERb the key.

What makes ERb work? Estrogen has to be there so it can be used. Cobalt is big piece.

This is why I’m all over freddd. Cobalt (b12) approach with test. But then his most important nutrient is carnitine next to b12 methylfolate.

And what came next for him after these? Lithium.

Nadh to nad+ has a pathway through b12 lithium.

So nadh is made in fat metabolism through carnitine ERb. Then I think it’s adob12 specifically + lithium for that nadh to nad.

Meb12 to adob12 is thru atp.
 

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I sometimes did a full reset just started with a few supps and built it up from there. It's good to sometimes reassess.

Agreed.

My main approach isn’t changing. It’s been a crazy month fucking around with these drugs and getting iodine in with it is now crazy. Makes me go nuts think I need the lithium .