As the title says, i have what i think is gastroenteritis, since 3 days ago. Im almost all day in the bathroom , with constant pain in stomach. Today my stools were totally red. I have been faating since this starta, so this is my third day. Im pretty scared about this, someone have any idea if this can be something worst than just gastroenteritis?
Gastroenteritis and bleeding stools
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HerrFisch
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I have pretty similar supps as you right now.
I think they are chelating copper in you as well.
Could be that it is too much, for which ARL or dr wilson idk, suggests to take molybdenum or b6 I guess,
But could also be something else like bacterial sth, dying off.
I had issues with TEI supplements at times as well. Esp in the evening with 2x ZMC. Last cycle I was taking Resveratrol and with it I had it pretty good under control.
In ZMC there is already something "like" Resveratrol. Bioflavonoids. Actually quite a bit. But maybe you need some extra binder or take a break from supplements for some days.
But you have to check if its blood or not. Could be iron as well. But iron is most often black. So is blood from the stomach. Red blood is most often from your colon.
I think they are chelating copper in you as well.
Could be that it is too much, for which ARL or dr wilson idk, suggests to take molybdenum or b6 I guess,
But could also be something else like bacterial sth, dying off.
I had issues with TEI supplements at times as well. Esp in the evening with 2x ZMC. Last cycle I was taking Resveratrol and with it I had it pretty good under control.
In ZMC there is already something "like" Resveratrol. Bioflavonoids. Actually quite a bit. But maybe you need some extra binder or take a break from supplements for some days.
But you have to check if its blood or not. Could be iron as well. But iron is most often black. So is blood from the stomach. Red blood is most often from your colon.
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Its probably the colon, it is blood supplied if im correct, so inflammation could be the cause of bleeding. Diverticulitis and colitis also look for those if your symptoms fit in their description. See if getting off any suppl and food that irritates start to feel better. If happens for 1st time it might be some related to the recent tei program effect on the body like from removing stuff out as was proposed above. If its this then strenghtenning the GI tract before continuing the program is best, once you stabilize the irritation thats going on right now.
Im off supps right now. Im not even eating, i dont know if this is good. @supernature when you say strenthging you mean to wait a while before start them again? Or to take domething lile probiotics
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Yes i mean in general in every possible way you come across it can be done, because it seems weak point that could prevent further following on any chelating programs.
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I would not fast. I just know for colitis its not good to fast in a flare. Its good to eat like a light mild diet though. Less unsoluble fiber etc.
Diarrhea already makes you lose a lot of nutrients. I easily loose 20kg in a flare in 4 weeks. But thats just my opinion.
I would really consider something like curcumin, resveratrol or even molybdenum. (curcumin and resveratrol might be more gentle)
For me its almost as easy as copper = diarrhea. Iron = constipation.
Last year after my first "TEI cycle" I had diarrhea for more than 2 months. You can read in my UC log. I tried Resveratrol for the first time and in 3 days Diarrhea was gone.
I know everybody is about "not add something to TEI"... I dont care. If you experience diarrhea for 2 months (and not just like diarrhea but like extreme urgency + diarrhea; which is double bad luck) you might think different
But like always it could be totally different.
Diarrhea already makes you lose a lot of nutrients. I easily loose 20kg in a flare in 4 weeks. But thats just my opinion.
I would really consider something like curcumin, resveratrol or even molybdenum. (curcumin and resveratrol might be more gentle)
For me its almost as easy as copper = diarrhea. Iron = constipation.
Last year after my first "TEI cycle" I had diarrhea for more than 2 months. You can read in my UC log. I tried Resveratrol for the first time and in 3 days Diarrhea was gone.
I know everybody is about "not add something to TEI"... I dont care. If you experience diarrhea for 2 months (and not just like diarrhea but like extreme urgency + diarrhea; which is double bad luck) you might think different
But like always it could be totally different.
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colitis as autoinmune and long term is different if I read well "gastroenteritis". Strange, stomach pain but red tools indicating blood from the colon. I would see a doctor. We do not even know if this happened before, is chronic etc. What is the CAUSE?
Acute stuff, better fasting…. Listen to the body though. My parents used to force me to eat when ill and then I would vomit all yellow!
Chronic stuff, of course you cannot fast!
And again I know a guy who had long term colitis and cured himself with the carnivore diet. + listening to his body, as for example he could not have liver and also needed super cooked meat…
Acute stuff, better fasting…. Listen to the body though. My parents used to force me to eat when ill and then I would vomit all yellow!
Chronic stuff, of course you cannot fast!
And again I know a guy who had long term colitis and cured himself with the carnivore diet. + listening to his body, as for example he could not have liver and also needed super cooked meat…
I do have UC ulcerative colitis and the first time I found it out this way, by bloody stool.
Now, put down all those fucking supplements and eat rice and no fat meat like chicken or turkey.
Keep like this for a couple of weeks and see if it get better.
Stop supplements, if you have UC you will make situation worse.
Limit also fruit and veggies.. I mean avoid for this first 2 weeks.
Could also be something as simple as a hemmoroid, I bleed all the time with them. If blood is bright red it's coming from the anus, if it's dark could be the colon, black is further up. Although my blood is kinda on the dark side in general now since pfs, so not always the best indicator
Cabbage juice cures all the lesions in the gastrointestinal tract, I drank it for 2 months and all the inflammation completely gone. Confirmed by colonoscopies and endoscopy before and after. blend up half a head in water daily and strain the fiber if u need to.
Here you can read about it.. no joke it works
cabbage juice and colitis - Google Search
Cabbage juice cures all the lesions in the gastrointestinal tract, I drank it for 2 months and all the inflammation completely gone. Confirmed by colonoscopies and endoscopy before and after. blend up half a head in water daily and strain the fiber if u need to.
Here you can read about it.. no joke it works
cabbage juice and colitis - Google Search
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Dude I know you got worse with doing your supplements.
But saying "supplements will make your situation worse" is just wrong.
The right supplements in the right circumstances can save your ass better and faster than cortisol supps can.
Most of the supplements you take dont even reach your inflamed colon. Sure you still can take the wrong ones and be worse off. But dont generalize.
-- I know you probably meant TEI supplements. So dont see this as an attack or smth. wuf wuf
Im eating rice and noodles right now, a little bit better, not that constant pain that was like somebody was hitting my stomach constantly( probably the worst pain in my life).
I stopped supps. I wsnt to continue them because i pay s lot of money ( here in Argentina the dollar is expensive haha) and because is my last hope that i get a little bit better. Obviously not right now , probably in two or three weeks
I stopped supps. I wsnt to continue them because i pay s lot of money ( here in Argentina the dollar is expensive haha) and because is my last hope that i get a little bit better. Obviously not right now , probably in two or three weeks
Got what you say but in this specific case he is using supplements not for the UC so it is a bet to know if he is taking something that won't hurt him.Dude I know you got worse with doing your supplements.
But saying "supplements will make your situation worse" is just wrong.
The right supplements in the right circumstances can save your ass better and faster than cortisol supps can.
Most of the supplements you take dont even reach your inflamed colon. Sure you still can take the wrong ones and be worse off. But dont generalize.
-- I know you probably meant TEI supplements. So dont see this as an attack or smth. wuf wuf
That's why I suggested to give it a stop, just to be sure to don't hurt himself even further
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wuf wuf
@sanka
Probably diet for colitis will be best or anything that doesnt make symptoms worse. Stuff like fine oat meal maybe will be good idea too.