Gbolduevs Mineral Protocol for PFS

joekool

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ACE is acetazolamide.

The licorice isn't part of the mineral protocol. It's another step to lower dht to resensitize yourself.
 

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expendable post_id=4382 time=1510883856 user_id=53 said:
Where does the licorice root and acetazolamide fit in to this? How come gbold didn't mention?

I think he mentioned the ACE will tank sodium while licorice will block cortisone conversion and the ace also negates the sodium/ water retention from the licorice root too.

I feel 90% sure of this info.
 

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[mention]m_arch[/mention] since this is a Relevant Thread(tm), here is some stuff

First, some choice gbold quotes.
In any case. I tested most of it, so I guess I can post here. Fin acts a progestin as we assumed correctly. Now the crash from fin and not ability to snap back is because there is a conflict between progesterone and cortisol created by fin. Basically after you get off fin, you have high progesterone and high cortisol and lowered 5 alpha reductase 2. Cortisol gets metabolized by 5 alpha reductase 2 , progesterone also. So you get stuck with high progesterone and high cortisol after fin. It should never be the case. Since progesterone should go high , cortisol low, cortisol high progesterone low. Since they regulate potassium in the cell.


In any case. when you take FIN it does indirectly inhibit 5 alpha reductase 2 by acting on progesterone and cortisol receptors.

After you quit fin. You have high progesterone and high cortisol. And low acitivity of 5 alpha reductase 2. The reason why it does not snap back, since progesterone keeps retaining potassium and potassium stays high in the cell. Cortisol is keeping retaining sodium and causing alkalosis which puts potassium even higher in the cell and this puts a huge pressure on cortisol.

5 alpha reductase 2 is what lowers cortisol. And it cant snap back, since cortisol is needed greatly at the moment.

So the body is stuck. It cant increase 5 alpha reductase 2. And thus cortisol goes to cortisone excessively. This lowers insulin secretion to very low since cortisone lowers insulin in the body. And you are diabetic.

So this is the my case. I am a case with low insulin. Fin has made be diabetic.

Zinc is lost in the urine like crazy now. and iron stays in the liver. Since body thinks I have tons of progesterone and tons of cortisol. DHEA grows since zinc is going away.


So now I will break this loop by tanking potassium in the cell. tanking sodium in the cell. And forcing cortisol up by blocking
cortisol to cortisone converison, which will increase my insulin back to normal. Without insulin back to normal, All my attempts to increase zinc will be met with castration since zinc will increases progesterone which will retain more potassium which will increase metabolism and puts more pressure on cortisol which will lower 5 alpha reductase even lower. since 5 alpha reductase metabolizes cortisol.

In this case , I will make my body have low potassium in the cell, and create increased cortisol( since I will stop cortisone conversion). Since increased cortisol should never exist with low cell potassium, body will have no other way to proceed but to upregulate 5 alpha reductase 2 to fight fatty liver and convert excessive cortisol . And I will get fixed from all these effects. Basically I will lower potassium, block cortisone , and force body to upregulate 5 alpha reductase 2

I will start trying to get rid of it on the weekend.

Preliminary , I think I will try acetazolamide plus licorice root as a first route to do this.

Licorce root, actually kills cortisone, so it restores insulin back to normal. But licorice root retains sodium

You are losing zinc in the urine, copper does lower potassium but there is no zinc. so you feel like shit.

Progesterone is stayin high, body is losing zinc. Sodium is staying high body is not using copper.

So if you take copper this lowers progesterone, and you take zinc you can tolerate it. but if you take any of it separately it is bad.

copper decrease potassium, zinc to restore zinc which is being lost in the urine, magnesium is to lower sodium which is being retained by high cortisol

Next, 3000 mg potassium. Right, potassium supps are limited to like 99mg because if they're any more they burn a hole in your stomach or something. My suggestion is to take them sporadically throughout the day, and also include some good potassium foods (banana, potato, I think tomato juice I saw mentioned) as well as a salt sub or even light salt (mixed NaCl and KCl - good stuff).

Also make sure to separate zinc and copper since they interfere with each other (one at morning and one at night). In fact, a lot of these interferences exist.
In one study, addition of 300 to 1000 mg of calcium to the diet decreased magnesium absorption significantly in participants consuming an average of 370 of dietary magnesium daily.

Hell, I might start spacing the minerals throughout the day if it turns out it's a problem to take doses like this all at once.

Can substitute aspirin for ACE (?)

Can add boron (gbold mentioned this somewhere I know)
 

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So, what's your next step?
By the way, how are you feeling after your past protocols?
 

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wuf post_id=4392 time=1510904841 user_id=65 said:
So, what's your next step?
By the way, how are you feeling after your past protocols?

The next step? I think I posted it in my log, I did add a few things though, will update. Basically just take this stuff until something happens, good or bad, or gbold says otherwise (gotta listen to gbold).

I'm honestly feeling... Not bad. I wish I were better. We all do. But compared to 2 months ago I might as well be a sexual Adonis. Lots of progress made, first with some licorice root, then the ella, now the mineral stack. Truth is, I wake up every day rock hard. But semen quality still suffers unless I nofap for a few days, and sensitivity, while improved, is still not quite there. Sleep is good but still fatigued sometimes. Let's hope this mineral stuff is """it""", cuz I can only take so much :lol:
 

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expendable post_id=4382 time=1510883856 user_id=53 said:
Where does the licorice root and acetazolamide fit in to this? How come gbold didn't mention?

Licorice is a different protocol.

He does take ace with this protocol; however he said it isnt necessary, just speeds things up

Edit; just read your quote above. Looks like he did take ace + licorice lol
 

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expendable post_id=4390 time=1510903255 user_id=53 said:
Next, 3000 mg potassium. Right, potassium supps are limited to like 99mg because if they're any more they burn a hole in your stomach or something. My suggestion is to take them sporadically throughout the day, and also include some good potassium foods (banana, potato, I think tomato juice I saw mentioned) as well as a salt sub or even light salt (mixed NaCl and KCl - good stuff)

Why should potassium supplements in general burn a hole in the stomach?
There ist citrate etc if you don’t want chloride.
 

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HerrFisch post_id=4398 time=1510909430 user_id=114 said:
Why should potassium supplements in general burn a hole in the stomach?
There ist citrate etc if you don’t want chloride.

I guess there is? I'm not sure about this stuff :lol: I just saw it somewhere.
 

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For even more potassium, magnesium, calcium?
If you feel normal again, do you think you need to run the protocal for some time to make it stick?
 

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Jaxx post_id=4486 time=1510954057 user_id=61 said:
For even more potassium, magnesium, calcium?
If you feel normal again, do you think you need to run the protocal for some time to make it stick?

I am planning to come off after this weekend and just eat. Spinach is for b2 mostly
 

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TubZy post_id=4436 time=1510933467 user_id=2 said:
It seems licorice root + magnesium could be another option since magnesium lowers sodium.

Thats loosely what ive been doing this week (although no set dosages). Wow if i take anything near 200mg magnesium orally i feel super super sleepy. I think cycling the licorice has already increased my magnesium

It feels like i cab close my eyes and fall asleep. Any place, any where. I dont feel bad in anyway, just more sleepy. I can push through it too.