Hair Test Result (Slow or Fast)

snowball

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Hey guys,
I just got my hair test results.
A few outliers:
-Copper below Normal
-Zinc below Normal
-Sulphur below Normal
-Manganese below normal
-Nickel, vanadium, cobalt below normal
-sodium:potassium low
From interpretation notes: Electrolyte levels suggest hypo adrenal and normal thyroid function

What do you guys think whether it shows slow or fast category? Lab has not given that categorization.

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Aleksandr

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What was the company that did this? do they wash the hair?

If they dont wash the hair and its accurate based on the trace elements info https://www.hackstasis.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=117

You have;

HIGH Ca:k, Higher than 4.2 = hypothyroid
LOW Na:k, lower than 2.4 indicates feeling more energy
HIGH Zn:Cu, Hormone levels in the body. Zn levels roughly correlates with Progesterone effect in women, testosterone effect in men. Cu levels roughly correlates with Estrogen effect in both sexes. higher than 8 indicates more zinc (progesterone / testosterone).
 

snowball

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It was done by CanAlt labs in Canada. They have been doing this test for last 20+ years if I remember correctly.
Here is the response I got from lab regarding washing:
"We believe that the cleaning procedures by using deionized water only should be employed by our lab to remove the exogenous elements contamination. CanAlt conduct a study on the washing effect and we found that the accuracy and reproducibility of our washing procedures is very good between the washed and non washed hair."

Based on result, am i slow or fast oxidiser? Also, what protocol should i try?
m_arch post_id=4969 time=1511488309 user_id=66 said:
What was the company that did this? do they wash the hair?

If they dont wash the hair and its accurate based on the trace elements info https://www.hackstasis.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=117

You have;

HIGH Ca:k, Higher than 4.2 = hypothyroid
LOW Na:k, lower than 2.4 indicates feeling more energy
HIGH Zn:Cu, Hormone levels in the body. Zn levels roughly correlates with Progesterone effect in women, testosterone effect in men. Cu levels roughly correlates with Estrogen effect in both sexes. higher than 8 indicates more zinc (progesterone / testosterone).
 

Aleksandr

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snowball post_id=4970 time=1511489556 user_id=1378 said:
It was done by CanAlt labs in Canada. They have been doing this test for last 20+ years if I remember correctly.
Here is the response I got from lab regarding washing:
"We believe that the cleaning procedures by using deionized water only should be employed by our lab to remove the exogenous elements contamination. CanAlt conduct a study on the washing effect and we found that the accuracy and reproducibility of our washing procedures is very good between the washed and non washed hair."

Based on result, am i slow or fast oxidiser? Also, what protocol should i try?
m_arch post_id=4969 time=1511488309 user_id=66 said:
What was the company that did this? do they wash the hair?

If they dont wash the hair and its accurate based on the trace elements info https://www.hackstasis.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=117

You have;

HIGH Ca:k, Higher than 4.2 = hypothyroid
LOW Na:k, lower than 2.4 indicates feeling more energy
HIGH Zn:Cu, Hormone levels in the body. Zn levels roughly correlates with Progesterone effect in women, testosterone effect in men. Cu levels roughly correlates with Estrogen effect in both sexes. higher than 8 indicates more zinc (progesterone / testosterone).
You seem to be a slow since your calcium is greater than your phosphorous.

You have increased thyroid (high ca:k)
You have decreased adrenals (lowish mg:na)

So this would be a slow 3

https://www.hackstasis.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=252

So gbolduevs protocols apply to you:
Fasting
Exercise more
Eat less carbs (only when you're physically active)
You can try taking ZeoActiv8 (zeolite product) to chelate. No one has done this yet but gbold strongly recommends it. I'm starting tonight
 

snowball

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Thank you.
I''m looking for PFS protocol. Guess there are two versions and wondering which one should I try?
 

Aleksandr

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snowball post_id=4980 time=1511528647 user_id=1378 said:
Thank you.
I''m looking for PFS protocol. Guess there are two versions and wondering which one should I try?

Well slow oxidiser protocol = balance your minerals and general health
PFS protocol = fix your progestin problem


I think gblduevs main PFS protocols seem to assume really high potassium/alkalosis though, which you don't seem to have. I'm not sure.
 

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After fasting you need to replenish some key minerals. You have lots of low trace minerals.

Oats are good food for you. Chocolate is something you could add in here and there. You need tons of vegetables. Cysteine rich protein (eggs, pork, garlic) would be good for you as well. You could also try experimenting with thorne extra nutrients as well for a few weeks after fasting. Also more salt in the interum is a no brainer.
 

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mattyb post_id=4985 time=1511530254 user_id=95 said:
After fasting you need to replenish some key minerals. You have lots of low trace minerals.

Oats are good food for you. Chocolate is something you could add in here and there. You need tons of vegetables. Cysteine rich protein (eggs, pork, garlic) would be good for you as well. You could also try experimenting with thorne extra nutrients as well for a few weeks after fasting. Also more salt in the interum is a no brainer.

What do you think about nutritional yeast in general and in the early days after a fast?
 

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jaa post_id=4997 time=1511540472 user_id=1352 said:
What do you think about nutritional yeast in general and in the early days after a fast?

I don't think it would hurt in small amounts, but it's not necessary either. I have outlined a post-fast refeeding protocol in another post that's been peppered around this forum. Search my post history and you'll find it.
 

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mattyb post_id=4998 time=1511542290 user_id=95 said:
jaa post_id=4997 time=1511540472 user_id=1352 said:
What do you think about nutritional yeast in general and in the early days after a fast?

I don't think it would hurt in small amounts, but it's not necessary either. I have outlined a post-fast refeeding protocol in another post that's been peppered around this forum. Search my post history and you'll find it.

Thanks. I've got your advice saved. Here it is for anyone who's interested.

Mattyb breaking fast protocol:
Days 1-7
Focus on mineral intake, particularly magnesium, sodium and potassium
Calories will still be low at this point, you'll likely regain some water weight but continue to lose fat
Vegetable broths, soups, well cooked vegetables, cooked leafy greens, etc.
Maybe some rice
Minimal herbs/spices
A bit of fats (eggs, butter) mixed in with the soups
Not very much protein, if any
Introduce food/calories slowly

Days 7-21
Anything from days 1-7 would be fine
Calorie intake will be slightly low, trending towards maintenance near the third week
Fresh vegetables and greens marinated in olive oil/vinegar
Some herbs/spices
More rice, maybe some well-cooked oats, small amounts of fruit, possibly small amounts of tubers
Small amounts of well cooked meat/seafood daily (slow roasted would be a good option)
Increase fat and protein gradually to get pancreas and gallbladder up to speed over these two weeks.

Days 21+
Everything from before is fine
Calories should be around maintenance near this point
By this point you should be able to exercise easily
More fruit, more carbohydrates (according to activity levels)
More foods high in manganese (oats, cereals, etc.) if well tolerated
More meat (and/or supplement zinc)
Tubers could be introduced if well tolerated
Should be hitting near the RDA of most vitamins/minerals by this point, with maybe the exception of calcium and vitamins e/d.
If digestion is robust at this point you can likely eat whatever your intuition is pushing you towards
 

snowball

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I think high Zn:Cu in my results points to high progesterone (not T). This is inline with blood test results from past. For PFS, I’m now looking into how to shift my Prog dominance to T or DHT as a way to counteract Estrogen.
 

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snowball post_id=5041 time=1511628039 user_id=1378 said:
I think high Zn:Cu in my results points to high progesterone
Interesting, I have taken progest-e for 2 years and I have also high zinc low copper! Interesting that stopping progest-e and changing diet after a fast stopped all my hot flushes, when I was supposed to eat no less than every 4 hours and take more progesterone...
:roll:
 

snowball

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[mention]mattyb[/mention] Thanks for your response. Since PFS, I'm not able to digest greens especially salads.Do you think it makes sense to also try out parasite cleanser(clove,..etc) before or after fasting to improve digestion?

mattyb post_id=4985 time=1511530254 user_id=95 said:
After fasting you need to replenish some key minerals. You have lots of low trace minerals.

Oats are good food for you. Chocolate is something you could add in here and there. You need tons of vegetables. Cysteine rich protein (eggs, pork, garlic) would be good for you as well. You could also try experimenting with thorne extra nutrients as well for a few weeks after fasting. Also more salt in the interum is a no brainer.