Iodine

[Ingeno]

Iodine or thyroid i lower the need for progesterone and progesterone converts into allpregnenolone via 5AR. since 5 AR goes up, this increases DHT.

If iodine increases scalp itch, what does this mean? Anything to counter this? I get benefits on Iodine, but also increased hair loss, like all benefits come with negatives.

 

[Helen]

If iodine increases scalp itch, what does this mean? Anything to counter this? I get benefits on Iodine, but also increased hair loss, like all benefits come with negatives.

If you restore to pre FIN., you should lose a lot more hair than you had before like you would lose 75% of your hair. since now your AR is highly overexpressed.

if you put salt on your head daily, that will lower cortisol in the scalp and increase progesterone into the scalp. Should help with the itch.

Iodine or thyroid supplements increase 5AR, since when you take them progesterone is not needed. SO progesterone is allowed to convert thru 5ar to allopregnenolone.


This allows 5AR to run, and this increases conversion of testosterone into DHT. And since right now if you are PFS, your AR is highly overexpressed. you get an itch. you will get this itch on potassium , on iodine, on t3. Anything that spares progesterone into the body.

 

[Ingeno]

If you restore to pre FIN., you should lose a lot more hair than you had before like you would lose 75% of your hair. since now your AR is highly overexpressed.

if you put salt on your head daily, that will lower cortisol in the scalp and increase progesterone into the scalp. Should help with the itch.

Wouldn't AR downregulate over time then? Otherwise we all restore back to pre FIN but will be bald, not great either. I agree with the salt, I take 2-3 dead sea salt baths a week and the day after the bath I get almost no itch. Gonna scrub salt on my head each day from now on.

Also will have my TEI results next week, will TEI balance the AR and prevent further hair loss?

 

[Helen]

Wouldn't AR downregulate over time then? Otherwise we all restore back to pre FIN but will be bald, not great either. I agree with the salt, I take 2-3 dead sea salt baths a week and the day after the bath I get almost no itch. Gonna scrub salt on my head each day from now on.

Also will have my TEI results next week, will TEI balance the AR and prevent further hair loss?

TEI will prevent hairloss since it will try to balance all your systems. People cant do this kind of stuff themselves.

But yes people who restore lose all their hair. usually

Since they took fin for a reason. and had really high DHT levels pre fin.

IMO it is usually b2 and zinc deficiencies which cause the hairloss

 

[Mey]

@SwaZ
I took loguls solution and applied it topically as you guided but no improvement occurred.
I diluted 1ml loguls 2% into half cup of water. Is this proportion suitable or should I add more loguls to this much water ?

 

[SwaZ]

@SwaZ
I took loguls solution and applied it topically as you guided but no improvement occurred.
I diluted 1ml loguls 2% into half cup of water. Is this proportion suitable or should I add more loguls to this much water ?

Sorry for a late reply, maybe try a little bit less water while the lugols stays the same. Take it internally too maybe thats the missing link.
Not gonna lie this might not work for you, i really hope it does as it did for me. It may take some time.

 

[Ocguy]

Sorry for a late reply, maybe try a little bit less water while the lugols stays the same. Take it internally too maybe thats the missing link.
Not gonna lie this might not work for you, i really hope it does as it did for me. It may take some time.

I gave it a decent shot a few years back, no help. I'm trying again though. Fuckett

 

[Ingeno]

I have tried lugols in the past and had some side effects, extreme coldness or increased heart rate, also felt like my thyroid started swelling.
I would be careful with this, if you are going to megadose, which lugols is, you might want to up the cofactors like selenium.

 

[SwaZ]

I have tried lugols in the past and had some side effects, extreme coldness or increased heart rate, also felt like my thyroid started swelling.
I would be careful with this, if you are going to megadose, which lugols is, you might want to up the cofactors like selenium.

If someone wants to suplement with iodine they should increase its cofactors for sure, along with a good diet.

A lot of people think iodine is just for thyroid. Some scientists did a study where people consumed iodine and they did some kind of scaning to see where iodine went. It concentrates in thyroid, stomach mucosa, thymus, breasts and sex organs.
Also some people say iodine is needed for lymph drainage and lymph detox.

 

[MNK99]

CORRECT finally a mofo that understands some shyt.
JESSSSSUSSSSSS

(NOT SAYING I DO.).

@SwaZ, I guess you were part of the Electrolyte Protocol... You stayed SILENT almost -- you'ze a sneaky kid.

1. 'Circulating Androgen Levels and Self-reported Sexual Function in Women'

--SOME KEY POINTS BELOW. (CAN'T FIND PROPER LINK/ some firewall issue on Mac). --> JUst woke up, I actually did link it... I saw it in 2 places, IDK.
Context It has been proposed that low sexual desire and sexual dysfunction areassociated with low blood testosterone levels in women.

-1. Objective:
To determine whether women with low self-reported sexual desire andsexual satisfaction are more likely to have low serum androgen levels thanwomen without self-reported low sexual desire and sexual satisfaction.

-2. Design, Setting, and Participants
A community-based, cross-sectional study of 1423 women aged 18 to 75years, who were randomly recruited via the electoral roll in Victoria, Australia,from April 2002 to August 2003. Women were excluded from the analysis if theytook psychiatric medication, had abnormal thyroid function, documented polycystic ovarian syndrome, or were younger than 45 years and using oral contraception.

-3. Main Outcome Measures Domain
scores of the Profile of Female Sexual Function (PFSF) and serumlevels of total and free testosterone, androstenedione, and dehydroepiandrosteronesulfate.

-4. Non Clinically Signifcant relnships
between having a low score for any PFSF domain and having a low serum total or free testosterone or androstenedionel evel was demonstrated.

-5. A low domain score for sexual responsiveness for women aged 45 years or older was associated with higher odds of having a serum dehydroepiandrosteronesulfate level below the 10th percentile for this age group (odds ratio [OR],3.90; P = .004).For women aged 18 to 44 years, having a low domain score for sexual desire(OR, 3.86; P .001),and sexual responsiveness (OR, 6.59;

-6. Conclusions:
No single androgen level is predictive of low female sexual function,and the majority of women with low dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate levels didnot have low sexual function.

-7. Sexual dysfunction:
primarily low libido, is common among women, with prevalences of 8% to 50% previously reported. 4 Although multiple psychosocial and health factors contribute to low sexual desire and arousal, 5 it has been proposed that endogenous androgen levels are significant independent determinants of sexual behavior in women.


-8. Therapautic Benefit FOR WOMEN with HYPOCTIVE SEXUAL DESIRE DISORDER; increased TEST used for this.
-widely believed LOW serum ree test is the diagnostic marker...
-I think that's bullshit.
--THere is evidence that low serum testosterone level distinguishing women with low sexual function from others, and that androgen deficiency syndrome that can be defined biochemically, is lacking. --> JUST LIKE MEN, DUH!!!!!!

-9. THUS, the authors investigated :

if LOW self-reported sexual function, (PSFS - Profile Female Sexual Function scale) in women 18--75 yrs age is associated with low serum androgen levels.

-11. Random Selection/ Australia.
-12. Further excluded were CONFOUNDING CONDITIONS -- i.e. AAP's, SNRI's/ ANTICONVULSANTS, ABNORMAL THYROID F'n. , USE OF ORAL CONTRACEPTIVES (wmn <45y)
-13. PFSP contains 7 domains: desire, arousal, orgasm, pleasure, sexual concerns, responsiveness,and self image and has no total score.
-14... doing later maybe, this is pretty OCD...

-15. Relevancy and accuracy: A Questionaiire done, ...

-16.
Free testosterone was calculated using the Sodergard equation as previously described. 19 Dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS) and sex hormonebinding globulin were measured using a solid-phase, 2-site chemiluminescentenzyme immunometric assay with the Immulite 2000 automated analyzer (DiagnosticProducts Corporation, Los Angeles, Calif). The intra-assay and interassaycoefficients of variation for sex hormone binding globulin are 6.5% and 8.7%,respectively; the detection limit is 0.2 nmol/L. For DHEAS level, the intra-assaycoefficient of variation is between 6.8% and 9.5% and the interassay coefficientof variation is between 9.2% and 12.7%.

-17.
Androstenedione was measured by directradioimmunoassay (DSL Inc, Webster, Tex). Follicle-stimulating hormone, thyroid-stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, and prolactin were measured usingthe Vitros ECI machine (Johnson Johnson, Clinical Diagnostics Division,Rochester, NY). Sample Size Other commun

REFS: --> Check the back of the article: Circulating Androgen Levels and Self-reported Sexual Function in Women
9.Shifren JL, Braunstein G, Simon J. et al. Transdermal testosterone treatment in women with impaired sexual function after oophorectomy. N Engl J Med. 2000;343:682-688PubMedGoogle ScholarCrossref
10.Goldstat R, Briganti E, Tran J, Wolfe R, Davis S. Transdermal testosterone improves mood, well being and sexual function in premenopausal women. Menopause. 2003;10:390-398PubMedGoogle ScholarCrossref
11.Sherwin BB, Gelfand MM. The role of androgen in the maintenance of sexual functioning in oophorectomized women. Psychosom Med. 1987;49:397-409PubMedGoogle Scholar
12.Cameron DR, Braunstein GD. Androgen replacement therapy in women. Fertil Steril. 2004;82:273-289PubMedGoogle ScholarCrossref
13.McHorney CA, Rust J, Golombok S. et al. Profile of female sexual function: a patient-based, international, psychometric instrument for the assessment of hypoactive sexual desire in oophorectomized women. Menopause. 2004;11:474-483PubMedGoogle ScholarCrossref
1. Béjin A. Sexual pleasures, dysfunctions, fantasies, and satisfaction. In: Spira AB, ed. Sexual Behaviour and AIDS. Aldershot, England: Avebury; 1994:163-171
2. Kontula O, Haavio-Mannila E. Sexual pleasures. In: Enhancement of Sex Life in Finland, 1971-1992. Aldershot, England: Dartmouth; 1995
3.Laumann E, Paik A, Rosen RC. Sexual dysfunction in the United States: prevalence and predictors. JAMA. 1999;281:537-544PubMedGoogle ScholarCrossref
4.Nathorst-Boos J, von Schoultz H. Psychological reactions and sexual life after hysterectomy with and without oophorectomy. Gynecol Obstet Invest. 1992;34:97-101PubMedGoogle ScholarCrossref

 

[RebelWithACause]

I eat a lot of red meat and overall nutrient dense diet and I have no DHT itch lately. I have high DHT feeling though. Maybe not as high libido as I used to but still good. I would not be surprised if my initial hair loss was caused by zinc deficiency or other mineral/vitamin. I will keep an eye on it.

I also eat salt with iodine in it.

Before finasteride I ate a diet low in zinc, low in protein and high in carbohydrates and PUFA. Also drinking every week (beer, estrogenic) and drugs. Living a shit lifestyle pretty much. My libido was crazy high. I do not think it was normal. The itching was also insane it sometimes made me go crazy.

 

[Area-1255]

I use Survival Shield X2 (the Strongest Iodine available) and it seems to DEFINITELY Sky-Rockets my Energy and increases Positive Response to Stimulants (Adderall/Amphetamine, Nicotine etc).

 

[MNK99]

@Area-1255, TOO M ENERGY's bad rite? Obviously.

 

[Area-1255]

@Area-1255, TOO M ENERGY's bad rite? Obviously.

Well I-DUNNO brother, Monster is that 666 shit LOL.

 

[MNK99]

IN AMERICA they used to have SOBE ENergy drinks (lizard logo, California or... Something like that), I'd import them as an ADD med lol. BUT they became very hard to find in hi school. My first Redbull was like 14 or 16 at Frankfurt/Lufthansa whatever some German Airport. That and some sandwich at like 5am... like 27-40 canadian dollars, had to hide it. Felt bad, I was like how the fuck is this even that expensive?

 

[Potion]

I use Survival Shield X2 (the Strongest Iodine available) and it seems to DEFINITELY Sky-Rockets my Energy and increases Positive Response to Stimulants (Adderall/Amphetamine, Nicotine etc).

Why not pay a lot less money and make your own solution with potassium iodide?

 

[MNK99]

ah it's a whole thing