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Niles

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It's been awhile. I took a break from the forums to focus on studying for my Personal Trainer Certification test. I needed to get my mind off of things too. I can now say i am officially a certified personal trainer! =) Its what ive wanted to do since age 17. Now at age 32, it has finally become a reality for me. =) This whole "propecia battle" has seriously changed my life for the better. Given me so much discipline. A complete 180!

I believe if youre going through something like PFS, then its good to focus your mind on other things, such as goal accomplishments, furthering your education, or just improving the quality of your life in general. It definitely helps!

Still at the same level PFS-wise. I found a great article on why coffee stopped working for me. Why Caffeine Stops Working (and What to Do About It)
. It stopped working for me roughly over 2 months ago. Makes sense. Coffee was a lifesaver. But i overdid it. I was up to about 96 oz. a day i think! It was so powerful that it would give me amazing energy and euphoria! I even tried going 48 hours without, and when i went back to it, it DID work a tiny bit better. But like the article says... i would probably have to go at least 14-30 days without coffee/caffeine to resensitize the receptors.

Fighting the life battle at the same time too. So many sacrifices. Many projects im doing at once. I finally got the funds saved for the hairtest. So one of these days ill have to figure out how to do it. Pain in the ass, but whatever. All of this shit has been a pain to me lately.. heheh. I shave my head every 2-3 weeks at the barber.. so i barely even have any hair left to work with lmao.

A very close friend of mine has been having wonderful success with peptides. IGF-1, and PEG, or whatever the hell theyre called. Maybe peptides could be beneficial for a PFS person? I might try them when he comes down to Florida. Hes very knowledgeable too. Unlike typical anabolics, peptides just increase the cells that we already have/produce from what i hear. Something like that. At 32, and as experienced as i am in the training world, i still have never run anything to do this day. It would be nice to get a break though.

Things are the same. Ill update when something works for me, or when i find something relevant! Keep fighting the good fight guys! =)
Congrats man! Your approach to recovery, knocking out life goals along the way, is inspiring.

Just out of curiosity - do you know what igf-lr3 source your friend uses? Mine have always been hit or miss.
 

K8668B

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Congrats man! Your approach to recovery, knocking out life goals along the way, is inspiring.

Just out of curiosity - do you know what igf-lr3 source your friend uses? Mine have always been hit or miss.

Thank you! I appreciate that!

He says he gets it from US peptides.
 

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I tinkered with peps for awhile pre-pfs. They are good stuff. I did mod-grf, ipamorelin, a little ghrp2 (wow did it make me hungry.)

They can make you healthier, but I think in terms of pfs they aren’t the answer.

I really think you had some good ideas last time we spoke @K8668B . You wanted to go after pathogen... still considering?

You got options in routes to take. Definitely the hair test will give you better view of what respective route to jump on. Will be big to see that for you.
 

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I tinkered with peps for awhile pre-pfs. They are good stuff. I did mod-grf, ipamorelin, a little ghrp2 (wow did it make me hungry.)

They can make you healthier, but I think in terms of pfs they aren’t the answer.

I really think you had some good ideas last time we spoke @K8668B . You wanted to go after pathogen... still considering?

You got options in routes to take. Definitely the hair test will give you better view of what respective route to jump on. Will be big to see that for you.

Its good to be back bruschi11! I see you also have some experience with peptides. They definitely seem awesome. But most likely not the answer. We all know that there is no magic silver bullet cure for this. Im still doing the hairtest. And im very interested in the pathogens tackling idea. During my break from this, i kinda forgot some things, so as far as the pathogens route, i would have to do some research, and get back into the swing of things. Gotta figure out a starting point for the pathogens. But the first route for now is still going to be the hairtest.
 

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Its good to be back bruschi11! I see you also have some experience with peptides. They definitely seem awesome. But most likely not the answer. We all know that there is no magic silver bullet cure for this. Im still doing the hairtest. And im very interested in the pathogens tackling idea. During my break from this, i kinda forgot some things, so as far as the pathogens route, i would have to do some research, and get back into the swing of things. Gotta figure out a starting point for the pathogens. But the first route for now is still going to be the hairtest.

Right now I look at pfs with several options.

Detox protocol for dummies. Should remove toxins and annihilate pathogens. Could throw Rife in here to help along with other natural antibacterials. Hydrogen water in this is something a lot of us are now experimenting with.

Fasting

Electrolytes, betaine hcl, aminos (this can be done with detox)- also feel this is just something all pfs guys should be on when they aren’t doing any big things like the others I list.

Arl/ TEI (but having mineral analysis is crucial taking this path or not).

RU/prog, Ella, Andro hormonal protocols.

Majority of these things beyond electrolytes/betaine/aminos and ru/prog are going to make you worse while you’re doIng them.

ARL for me made me awful the 2 weeks on it then 8 days after stopping I was best I had been with pfs libido/ election wise possibly .

Tei is supposed to be a lot less harsh than arl. I have not experimented but guys like @Goose12 have and @NendoBMK told me tei was so much easier on his system than ARL.

Get worse before you get better is a big lesson to be learned with these things though. lol we talked a month ago and I was craving women- now I’m completely impotent essentially on the detox protocol.

It’s just what you gotta do in battling this thing. Worse before better- you read chi’s stuff he’ll tell you same thing along with @Helen .
 

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I remember, yeah, you were definitely craving women like a beast a month ago! youll get it back too. get worse before you can get better seems legit! and these things you mentioned are all the main things that ive seen on this forum. great stuff. hairtest is still where ill start.
 

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and also, alot of times nowadays, i do have lower energy than i did in 2017, due to many things. including pfs, and just being burnt out from the same job/routine/negativity at the workplace. and coffee not working as much anymore. so alot of times i dont even read the forums because my brain is so tired and shot-out from a days worth of work, and other things, and i just dont care to stare into a computer screen/phone for extended periods of time. im also in the gym alot, or doing HIIT sprints, or doing errands or other random bullshit. i tend to want to relax my mind. but im going to try to fight this even harder now! fuck it!! my next day off is monday, and ill be looking to figure out the hairtest then.
 

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That's the spirit man.
Keep fighting.
 

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All i've really been doing lately is eating healthy/clean and going to gym/sprinting/occasional light distance running. But those things have always been my hobbies. I dont really see myself as "fighting the propecia battle" when im only doing those things. Ive been tired, worn out, and really down lately. I've been getting slightly worse. More and more worn out as time goes on.

Fighting the life battle and doing all this other stuff outside of PFS, and i havent had much time to get on here lately. I suppose I have the time, but i get more and more worn out everyday, that i can barely concentrate. I hate the blue light from computer screens/ cellphones, etc. as well.

I recently got back into the habit of doing something that really helps me alot. And that is writing things down on paper. Writing things down on paper is a powerful tool. And I have a completely new protocol written down on 3 pieces of paper that i stapled together. I could even post the pics on here. My new things are mainly (Iodine detox protocol), 3-day water fast, and intermittent fasting. Im sure alot of people have already seen this, but go on google and type in "iodine detox for post finasteride syndrome". the first link that will pop up is an old link on propecia help where i guy had great success from iodine detoxing about 6 years ago or so. its old like i said, so im sure people have already seen it.

Im down for trying other things like anavar and Nolvadren XT, but the 3 things i previously mentioned are my main focus.

Forgive me for asking too many stupid questions. I know i am the way i am, and i may ask stupid questions, and not know how to do the simplest shit. But im just finally gonna throw it out there. I dont know how to do the 3-day water fast. And i dont know how to do the Iodine detoxing protocol. I could use some help, and was wondering if some people could simplify things for me.

A friend of mine who also has PFS told me that he did a 3-day waterfast and it helped him. Can i just drink distilled water? Where can i get the legit distilled water? How much distilled water do i drink a day? Do i have to add in salt and electrolytes, and or pink himalayan sea salt during my water fast? where would i get those items mentioned, and legit sources/brands of them? do i have to do a coffee enema first before i do the water fast? i really hope i dont have to do a stupid enema. i wouldnt even know how to do that either. Can i just jump into it and do water only? im clueless and confused.

Should i do the 3-day water fast first, or the iodine detoxing stuff first?
 

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Are these appropriate for a water-fast? I just want to jump in and just start drinking the water . the less complicated the better. But I want to do it right at the same time. A 3-day water fast . I couldn't get the pics to upload. Zephyr hills distilled water.
 

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Water fast on just water. Preferably not distilled. I would personally use Fiji for the silica content.
 

MNK99

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I think it's fine, but that we all have similar and possibly other issues. And it's good not to overanalyze. But IIRC, there may be some issue with Fiji for some reason, for some. I'd imagine near identical results. I used different types of water however, luckily tap or filtered water is v clean here.

Not mineral and not distilled, perhaps??
 
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bruschi11

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Get a hair test and u can get help here man. That’s really becoming the standard on this site.
 

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Probably better than most steroids I can think of. But I am certainly no "steroid-master". R-Andro didn't help you as m as wanted rite bro... so I don't know.
I don't think it will hurt all... but, Anavar seems dicey. Need to know if case 1 or 2 of PFS. There's Low-Dose test which did help some people, but then we are running
into circles again, like others did on SPFS and PH (which I didn't go to 200 days, but closed off an account at 1, and never made one at the other). Only did this bc of new computer/ wasn't blocked there.
 

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Depends where. India or China I'd buy Evian or something g.
Calgary I'd use Tap or filter fridge water. Florida?
I dunno I'd buy something.

Maybe a flamethrower, or an ar15, a vest, and a hoodie with all the sketchiness you've mentioned to me lol.
 
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Yeah, im starting to get really aggressive towards fighting PFS again, and really putting some effort back into it. Just the anger/frustration is pissing me off/motivating me enough to start going at it again.

Damn, So the Fiji water has fluoride in it now @jacknap ? What kind of water did you use in yours? Or were you a juice feaster back then? I dont remember.

@bruschi11 - I'm not sure man.. i see people having to get more than one hairtest to get accurate readings, and theyre like $150 a piece. the price and gamble of everything has been getting to me. But youve mentioned the hairtest a few times to me though.

@MNK99 seems like ALL water is bad lol! youtube videos will say different things too.
 

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Youtube says all kinds of crazy things. Most of them are mentally insane, low IQ degenerates.
Read comments, for a huge reminder of that.
 
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K8668B

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Bro find a way and fast
You too @Chapman

I'd personally use Fiji for now like Walker says. Drinking some rite now. Fiji water never hurt anyone mostly. People fasted way before the modern age too, they used water from lakes or glaciers or wherever.

Alright then, BOTTLED fiji water it is! Im just gonna jump in and get this over with. Now that i know which type of water to use, i just have to research a few more things, like breaking the fast/refeed, and whether i should do pink himalayan salt/electrolytes during it. But for now at least i know which water to use.