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Aleksandr

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This cycle; half a tea spoon 3x sun and mon.
Sunday: felt good. Went to beach in morning. Tired / napped in arvo.

Mon: feel pretty good. Woke up a bit tired. Heart rate 50bpm at 10am
62 bpm at 2pm. Warm and tingly
Very grouchy and snappy in the afternoon. Head feels really warm, red like a beetroot??? Lots of blood supply??
Dry eyes

Tues: woke up tired 49 bpm at 5"30am
Dry eyes
Its been really hot here lately. Feeling like im melting. Tired and hot today.

Wed; 54bpm 6am
Feeling pretty good
8:30am feelinh really dizzy standing up
Played tennis pretty average. Seemed to have trouble serving and moving

Thurs:
Feel pretty average. White tongue in the morning. Not been a great week.
I wonder if this is due to lots more sun this week increasing vitamin d and calcium (makes slow oxidiser slower)?
60bpm 9am
Weird bloodflow in my leg?
Played pretty averag in tennis again
65bpm 8:30pm

Friday:
50bpm 7am
Been a pretty shitty week really. The only reason i can tell is because of the heat.
Thinking about giving up the licoroce root and jumping on ace (diamox) since it seems like more of a direct route. Been thinking a lot about diamox / bicarb in general. From my venous blood gas it seemed like i had a mild form of respiratory acidosis so the diamox looks like it would work well for that.

However at this point i will still presist with the licorice root. 3/4th teaspoon next week bring it!

Did some holotropic breathing around 12pm. Felt tingly in my chest, scalp and lips. I only managed to do 2 minutes of it, and my lips were still tingling 2 minutes after.
60bpm after lunch at 4pm. Feeling better but had a restful day

Went for a swim at the beach aroind 6pm. I could swim underwater for longer than usual. It was curious. Usually at the beach i dive in then swim underwater breaststroke for as long as i can. I usually get around 12 strokes then come up for air. Today i managed 18. I might of managed more even, if i hadnt been stung by a jellyfish halfway through my swim.


Sat:
54bpm 8am
Felt better yesterday arvo. Ate a lot of carbs then. Bacon and cheese bread rolls, boost bar, KFC
Did holotropic breathing again at 10. Heart rate was 48 bpm afterwards
Feeling good this morning.
Lost my tennis match today. I was leading 6-3 4-0 but he came back to win it 6-3 4-6 9-11... kicking myself!! It was 36 deg celcius and i think i just ran out of gas. Typically ive played poorly in the heat before. I also didnt feel strong, especially as the match progressed. I didnt have that stress resilience 'come at me bro' feeling. I felt weak and tired. My eyes have also been a bit dry all this week (although not as bad as before starting the licorice root).

Im now having trouble sleeping (rare for me) its 3:45am sunday morning writing this.

All in all probably the worst week so far, although still probably better than pre-licorice root. I hope next week goes better. Ill be taking 3/4 teaspoon sunday / monday.
 

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I've been slathering myself in magnesium oil most days. Maybe 4 days a week if i'd have to guess. This is due to my hair test showing low magnesium, and a HEAVILY imbalanced magnesium to sodium ratio. So, the licorice root tea is supposed to bring the sodium down. The magnesium oil is supposed to bring the magnesium up.

After Gbolds recent posts about (re)curing his PFS with magnesium, potassium and copper, I've just been reading up at the magnesium advocacy group on facebook, and this article from Ben Greenfield:
https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/nutrition-articles/how-to-get-rid-of-a-magnesium-deficiency/

Sounds pretty epic:
"A magnesium deficiency can result in muscle cramping, excessive soreness, inadequate force production, disrupted recovery and sleep, immune system depression, and even potentially fatal heart arrhythmias during intense exercise.
Multiple studies have shown magnesium to be effective for buffering lactic acid, enhancing peak oxygen uptake and total work output, reducing heart rate and carbon dioxide production during hard exercise, and improving cardiovascular efficiency. In addition, supplementation with magnesium can elevate testosterone levels and muscle strength up to 30 percent."

-It seems like magnesium is the only mineral you can supplement directly to increase its concentration in the body.
-Its recommended 850mg of magnesium a day for a male. Probably more so for me since I exercise usually 3x a week maybe 6 hrs total of pretty intensive sports training.
-Spaying your body in magnesium chloride probably only gives you about 100mg magnesium
-Ben uses magnesium oil before and after working out

I know it might make this log a little derailed and I said i'd just focus on the licorice root, but I don't think this will be a major deterrent. I'm going to start logging how often I spray my body in magnesium oil, and try to increase it to 5x a day and see if i have any major changes.
 

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m_arch post_id=4085 time=1510552139 user_id=66 said:
I've been slathering myself in magnesium oil most days. Maybe 4 days a week if i'd have to guess. This is due to my hair test showing low magnesium, and a HEAVILY imbalanced magnesium to sodium ratio. So, the licorice root tea is supposed to bring the sodium down. The magnesium oil is supposed to bring the magnesium up.

After Gbolds recent posts about (re)curing his PFS with magnesium, potassium and copper, I've just been reading up at the magnesium advocacy group on facebook, and this article from Ben Greenfield:
https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/nutrition-articles/how-to-get-rid-of-a-magnesium-deficiency/

Sounds pretty epic:
"A magnesium deficiency can result in muscle cramping, excessive soreness, inadequate force production, disrupted recovery and sleep, immune system depression, and even potentially fatal heart arrhythmias during intense exercise.
Multiple studies have shown magnesium to be effective for buffering lactic acid, enhancing peak oxygen uptake and total work output, reducing heart rate and carbon dioxide production during hard exercise, and improving cardiovascular efficiency. In addition, supplementation with magnesium can elevate testosterone levels and muscle strength up to 30 percent."

-It seems like magnesium is the only mineral you can supplement directly to increase its concentration in the body.
-Its recommended 850mg of magnesium a day for a male. Probably more so for me since I exercise usually 3x a week maybe 6 hrs total of pretty intensive sports training.
-Spaying your body in magnesium chloride probably only gives you about 100mg magnesium
-Ben uses magnesium oil before and after working out

I know it might make this log a little derailed and I said i'd just focus on the licorice root, but I don't think this will be a major deterrent. I'm going to start logging how often I spray my body in magnesium oil, and try to increase it to 5x a day and see if i have any major changes.

M_arch where are living in the world buddy?
 

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Snow1 post_id=4090 time=1510570846 user_id=68 said:
m_arch post_id=4085 time=1510552139 user_id=66 said:
I've been slathering myself in magnesium oil most days. Maybe 4 days a week if i'd have to guess. This is due to my hair test showing low magnesium, and a HEAVILY imbalanced magnesium to sodium ratio. So, the licorice root tea is supposed to bring the sodium down. The magnesium oil is supposed to bring the magnesium up.

After Gbolds recent posts about (re)curing his PFS with magnesium, potassium and copper, I've just been reading up at the magnesium advocacy group on facebook, and this article from Ben Greenfield:
https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/nutrition-articles/how-to-get-rid-of-a-magnesium-deficiency/

Sounds pretty epic:
"A magnesium deficiency can result in muscle cramping, excessive soreness, inadequate force production, disrupted recovery and sleep, immune system depression, and even potentially fatal heart arrhythmias during intense exercise.
Multiple studies have shown magnesium to be effective for buffering lactic acid, enhancing peak oxygen uptake and total work output, reducing heart rate and carbon dioxide production during hard exercise, and improving cardiovascular efficiency. In addition, supplementation with magnesium can elevate testosterone levels and muscle strength up to 30 percent."

-It seems like magnesium is the only mineral you can supplement directly to increase its concentration in the body.
-Its recommended 850mg of magnesium a day for a male. Probably more so for me since I exercise usually 3x a week maybe 6 hrs total of pretty intensive sports training.
-Spaying your body in magnesium chloride probably only gives you about 100mg magnesium
-Ben uses magnesium oil before and after working out

I know it might make this log a little derailed and I said i'd just focus on the licorice root, but I don't think this will be a major deterrent. I'm going to start logging how often I spray my body in magnesium oil, and try to increase it to 5x a day and see if i have any major changes.

M_arch where are living in the world buddy?
Australia, why?
 

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m_arch post_id=4098 time=1510575269 user_id=66 said:
Snow1 post_id=4090 time=1510570846 user_id=68 said:
m_arch post_id=4085 time=1510552139 user_id=66 said:
I've been slathering myself in magnesium oil most days. Maybe 4 days a week if i'd have to guess. This is due to my hair test showing low magnesium, and a HEAVILY imbalanced magnesium to sodium ratio. So, the licorice root tea is supposed to bring the sodium down. The magnesium oil is supposed to bring the magnesium up.

After Gbolds recent posts about (re)curing his PFS with magnesium, potassium and copper, I've just been reading up at the magnesium advocacy group on facebook, and this article from Ben Greenfield:
https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article/nutrition-articles/how-to-get-rid-of-a-magnesium-deficiency/

Sounds pretty epic:
"A magnesium deficiency can result in muscle cramping, excessive soreness, inadequate force production, disrupted recovery and sleep, immune system depression, and even potentially fatal heart arrhythmias during intense exercise.
Multiple studies have shown magnesium to be effective for buffering lactic acid, enhancing peak oxygen uptake and total work output, reducing heart rate and carbon dioxide production during hard exercise, and improving cardiovascular efficiency. In addition, supplementation with magnesium can elevate testosterone levels and muscle strength up to 30 percent."

-It seems like magnesium is the only mineral you can supplement directly to increase its concentration in the body.
-Its recommended 850mg of magnesium a day for a male. Probably more so for me since I exercise usually 3x a week maybe 6 hrs total of pretty intensive sports training.
-Spaying your body in magnesium chloride probably only gives you about 100mg magnesium
-Ben uses magnesium oil before and after working out

I know it might make this log a little derailed and I said i'd just focus on the licorice root, but I don't think this will be a major deterrent. I'm going to start logging how often I spray my body in magnesium oil, and try to increase it to 5x a day and see if i have any major changes.

M_arch where are living in the world buddy?
Australia, why?

I thought you have been AUS based with the timing of your messages and your comment around the weather!

Both scenes123 and I are from Melbourne.
 

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Sorry that's snell1234, not scenes. I'll blame that mistake on PFS - it's always a good excuse.
 

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Snow1 post_id=4150 time=1510653653 user_id=68 said:
Sorry that's snell1234, not scenes. I'll blame that mistake on PFS - it's always a good excuse.

Oh yeah i noticed not many posted at the same time. Cool. Im in Perth
 

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Wtf maybe there’s some kind of hemispheric pfs going on here...

Gbold are southern hemisphere case 2 and northern case 1??

I think I have this worked out now...plz answer thanks
 

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You guys have so many kidney eating spiders and all other dangerous species up there. No wonder you lose your hair. LOL

I wanted to move to AUS 10 years ago. But those bugs and crocs scared me away. And also real estate prices
 

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gbolduev post_id=4160 time=1510655527 user_id=90 said:
You guys have so many kidney eating spiders and all other dangerous species up there. No wonder you lose your hair. LOL

I wanted to move to AUS 10 years ago. But those bugs and crocs scared me away. And also real estate prices

Perth is bugs (mostly) and crocs free. Beautiful beaches with a sunset over them. Beautiful women. But also high real estate prices (although high wages too)
 

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gbolduev post_id=4160 time=1510655527 user_id=90 said:
You guys have so many kidney eating spiders and all other dangerous species up there. No wonder you lose your hair. LOL

I wanted to move to AUS 10 years ago. But those bugs and crocs scared me away. And also real estate prices

You should see the "bugs" and "crocs" that we have here in Brazil!, they even wear suits! and eat your wallet :lol:
 

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Taking 3/4th teaspoon this week 3x on Sunday and Monday

Sunday:
Felt pretty crap after my first licorice dose. Good bowel movements today though.

Monday:
Feeling good.
Good bowel movements again.
54bpm at 2pm
Tongue seems to get a lot whiter from licorice root
Had lots of magnesium. A actually felt tired from it, making sure i took a lot. Haven't felt anything on lower doses. Bowel movements havent changed. I had a capful of mag chloride orally and sprayed my body 4 times during the day. I think each body spray is around 100mg and the capful was probably 200mg.

Tuesday :
Felt like i slept really deeply
51 bpm at 6am
Feeling really sleepy at work.
I wonder if ive tanked sodium too much with magnesium and licorice root. Due to sleepiness / poor mood and performance last week. Hmmm.

Also thinking about taking copper.

Wednesday:
Felt pretty good.
Didn't have huge doses of magnesium
Exercised 2.5hrs at tennis

Thursday:
Feeling good.
Had a few pimples come up today. Not sure why.
Took 200mg magnesium
Exercised 2.5 hrs at tennis

Friday;
Super tired waking up. Is this the magnesium??
Heart rate 44bpm
Feeling really sleepy again.

Saturday;
45bpm at 6:30am
Seems my heart rate is slower generally from adding mag in this week.
Still feel sleepy.


General feeling:

Interestingly, i've had a high libido again correlating with this sleepiness / magnesium use. Before hair testing or starting any balancing protocols, I thought i had an above average high libido. DHT dominant perhaps in opposing estrogen, which explains the alopecia pattern hair loss. Its like the magnesium has put me back into that state (although, still without dry eyes which is good).

It seems like: feel sleepy + super horny (at least for a male) OR feel super energetic + no libido OR feel normal and have normal libido. It doesn't seem like super horny + super energetic co-exist. Its funny because I found out the other day that this guy I know who is super wired 24/7, DEFINITELY a fast oxidiser, hasn't had sex with his partner in over 6 months lol (found out from the partner)

I also feel like my white tongue is more related to carb intake now. I can still get a white tongue if i overdo the carbs on a non-licorice root day.
 

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[mention]gbolduev[/mention] I've got a stutter that i've had since i was about 10 years old (didn't have it before then) which comes and goes. It only seems to occur under certain conditions though - like I get excited and talk too fast. Its like my mind can think that fast, but my mouth can't keep up and I get 'stuck' on certain letters.

HOWEVER it seems to correlate with my state of health also. For example, at the beginning of this licorice root protocol I was feeling amazing. I could talk as fast as I wanted too, and no stuttering. It didnt matter the situation - new people, exciting stories, whatever... I could just talk. Now I haven't been feeling so great the past few weeks - and the stutter is back.

Any idea what this is? Before I started the licorice root I was doing zinc / manganese for a week or so. Could that have been what fixed the stutter?
 

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Taking a full teaspoon again. Possibly the final week.

Sunday; i actually like the feeling of the full teaspoon of licorice now. It makes me feel warm and my scalp gets a lot of bloodflow.

Im not sure whats going on. Initially it made me feel weird on it, but good off it. Now i feel kinda good on it, but tired off it. I still wonder if ive tanked my sodium too much.

Thinking about making this the last week i take it, and maybe moving onto something else. Im just not sure what yet. Ace/diamox sounds like it would be really good for slow oxidisers. Might be better to take zinc/manganese for a couple of months, though. I think the mineral route would make it stick, but the drug route might just wear off.

I feel like pre-licorice root now, mostly. My libido is back hugely (it was probably too much before, and now it feels like maybe too much again) and i feel more tired again.

However my dry eyes have not returned!!! I guess if licorice root did nothing else but fix my dry eyes that alone is a huge positive. It would drive me nuts before. It makes sense that sodium would be very drying too. Thats a big +1 for mineral balancing if they dont go dry again when i go off this protocol

My bowel movements seem to imprpve on the licoroce days too, but get worse off it.

Monday:
Bpm 47 at 8am
Tired in morning
Really cranky. Short fused. Super tired. Feels like i have to try SO hard to summon any energy.
Fuck this I'm stopping the licorice root.
Im wondering if my initial good feelings were from the zinc+manganese combo (which i did for a week before starting licorice).
Maybe ive tanked my sodium too hard. Maybe the reason my adrenals were working so much was because i had no energy without them.
Everything is bothering me today.

END OF LICORICE PROTOCOL
Fucking rage quit.


To summarise: after 4 weeks cycling 2 days on 5 daysoff;
symptoms that i was looking to resolve / improve: dry eyes, sore joints, fatigue, white tongue coating, as well as just general balancing of my hair mineral analysis

Dry eyes: gone
Sore joints: improved initially then got sore again. Maybe improvement was due tob1 week prior zinc/manganese use. Not sure
Fatigue: same deal as sore joints
White tongue coating: same deal as above
I havent rechecked my hair yet, i think its too soon.


Honestly all of this could ve due to the zinc/mang. Not sure. I will run zinc/ mang again starting tomorrow.


I actually also suspect taking magnesium made me worse; probably tanked sodium more, slowed me down more (magnesium is sedative) and raised potassium (reducing breathing rate, making my respiratory acidosis worse).
 

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[mention]m_arch[/mention]

no kidding? I've been feeling crazy tired lately too. Is it from the magnesium and licorice root? I took quite a bit (relatively), 900mg/day for 3 days this time. Woke up fucking exhausted.

And I was trying to eat so much salt too! :lol:
 

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expendable post_id=4646 time=1511142919 user_id=53 said:
@m_arch

no kidding? I've been feeling crazy tired lately too. Is it from the magnesium and licorice root? I took quite a bit (relatively), 900mg/day for 3 days this time. Woke up fucking exhausted.

And I was trying to eat so much salt too! :lol:

I think they both tank sodium hard.. sodium is a stimulatory hormone and magnesium is sedative. It seems like thats why
 

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Taking licorice as well and also very tired. Although I feel it more at night than in the morning.
 

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m_arch post_id=4653 time=1511153854 user_id=66 said:
expendable post_id=4646 time=1511142919 user_id=53 said:
@m_arch

no kidding? I've been feeling crazy tired lately too. Is it from the magnesium and licorice root? I took quite a bit (relatively), 900mg/day for 3 days this time. Woke up fucking exhausted.

And I was trying to eat so much salt too! :lol:

I think they both tank sodium hard.. sodium is a stimulatory hormone and magnesium is sedative. It seems like thats why
Did you check your blood pressure while on licorice root and pre-licorice root?
 

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dante post_id=4671 time=1511184170 user_id=109 said:
m_arch post_id=4653 time=1511153854 user_id=66 said:
expendable post_id=4646 time=1511142919 user_id=53 said:
@m_arch

no kidding? I've been feeling crazy tired lately too. Is it from the magnesium and licorice root? I took quite a bit (relatively), 900mg/day for 3 days this time. Woke up fucking exhausted.

And I was trying to eat so much salt too! :lol:

I think they both tank sodium hard.. sodium is a stimulatory hormone and magnesium is sedative. It seems like thats why
Did you check your blood pressure while on licorice root and pre-licorice root?
No but i can tell you i had lowish blood pressure before starting, on the two days i was ingesting licorice it was higher after a dose. Seemed to go down again in my 5 days off