ORIGINAL DR. WATSON protocols for SLOW and FAST oxidizers.

[Helen]

ARL and TEI was founded from the work of Dr Watson. Dr Eck and Watts, improved on his work.( OR NOT))

But there are some discrepancies in protocols.


Here are original protocols for SLOW and FAST oxidizers.

I wonder if some people can try these and see if they feel better.

As you see a slow oxidizer protocol here, is the protocol that I gave Scenes, and personally used to get out of PFS 3 times.

Fast Oxidizer Diet – Jeremy E. Kaslow, M.D. this guy Kaslow just posted original dr Watson protocol on this website from the Dr Watson book that you can by on amazon



PS. I dont know which protocol is better, original dr Watsons, or ARL and TEI. but take into account that both ARL and TEI started to give zinc to a slow oxidizer, where Dr Watson does not.

May be they tested the brain or something. I am not sure.

@barbaar

 

[RebelWithACause]

Almost everything recommended for slow oxidizer works for me.

 

[Helen]

Almost everything recommended for slow oxidizer works for me.

yes, but be careful. it is possible that TEI and ARL know that copper and iron accumulated too much because of lack of b1 b2 in the liver and brain

So when you give it you feel good, but it increases liver and brain copper even more

you see what I am saying

if you are lackiing b1 and b2 , you cant use copper and iron from the liver, they never get out from the liver

this copper and iron accumulate in the liver and brain. but it does not get into the cell

When you give a little copper from food, some I guess gets to the cell. and you feel better.

SO we need to assume these 2 possibilities.



like for me, just using very high doses of b1 and b2 made copper and iron work better on its own.

So need to test this.

This is why I give everything on the electrolytes protocol and high doses of B vitamins, to actually chelate iron and copper from the brain.

 

[Helen]

We need to test this regimen, with copper and iron and without them.

 

[RebelWithACause]

yes, but be careful. it is possible that TEI and ARL know that copper and iron accumulated too much because of lack of b1 b2 in the liver and brain

So when you give it you feel good, but it increases liver and brain copper even more

you see what I am saying

if you are lackiing b1 and b2 , you cant use copper and iron from the liver, they never get out from the liver

this copper and iron accumulate in the liver and brain. but it does not get into the cell

When you give a little copper from food, some I guess gets to the cell. and you feel better.

SO we need to assume these 2 possibilities.



like for me, just using very high doses of b1 and b2 made copper and iron work better on its own.

So need to test this.

This is why I give everything on the electrolytes protocol and high doses of B vitamins, to actually chelate iron and copper from the brain.

I ate a lot of red meat for 3-4 months. Sometimes liver. This contains a lot of B vitamins right. Fish, eggs, etc. I also eat spinach 600g-1000g (with water weight). Or do I need to take B complex. I cannot imagine having lack of b1 and b2 if I ate diet high in meat for some time.

 

[Helen]

I ate a lot of red meat for 3-4 months. Sometimes liver. This contains a lot of B vitamins right. Fish, eggs, etc. I also eat spinach 600g-1000g (with water weight). Or do I need to take B complex. I cannot imagine having lack of b1 and b2 if I ate diet high in meat for some time.

meat has tons of iron and zinc etc that spends all the bs that are in meat.

But these days we ahve a lot of toxins, coming from the outside, air, cars, that spends your b1 and b2 like crazy.

those Bs that you get from the whole food are only enough to digest that food. in the moment.

thsi is what whole food is. it has all ingridients to digest and utiize that food.

but if the need in the body for b1 and b2 which recycle glutathione is increased, then you eating meat makes you iron toxic, since there is not enough b1 and b2 to utilize the iron from the meat, since it is used lets say to fight aluminum or mercury

 

[RebelWithACause]

meat has tons of iron and zinc etc that spends all the bs that are in meat.

But these days we ahve a lot of toxins, coming from the outside, air, cars, that spends your b1 and b2 like crazy.

those Bs that you get from the whole food are only enough to digest that food. in the moment.

thsi is what whole food is. it has all ingridients to digest and utiize that food.

but if the need in the body for b1 and b2 which recycle glutathione is increased, then you eating meat makes you iron toxic, since there is not enough b1 and b2 to utilize the iron from the meat, since it is used lets say to fight aluminum or mercury

Ah I get it.

 

[Helen]

Ah I get it.

you see that is the whole problem with nowadays, and taht is why changing diets dont work

Since whole food provides correct nutrients to utilize that good, like you eat meat, boom you havve all things in meat to get energy from it.

you eat an orange, you get all the thing to utlize orange.

So it should be impossible to get sick from any diet.

but since we have this outside pressure with toxins, basically eating any food, makes you toxic now

you see. since if all bs are spent on glutathione. then the food you eat, just gives you free minerals

this is why when you are sick you want to fast really. like animals go and fast or they eat grass. Grass binds minerals,

 

[RebelWithACause]

you see that is the whole problem with nowadays, and taht is why changing diets dont work

Since whole food provides correct nutrients to utilize that good, like you eat meat, boom you havve all things in meat to get energy from it.

you eat an orange, you get all the thing to utlize orange.

So it should be impossible to get sick from any diet.

but since we have this outside pressure with toxins, basically eating any food, makes you toxic now

you see. since if all bs are spent on glutathione. then the food you eat, just gives you free minerals

this is why when you are sick you want to fast really. like animals go and fast or they eat grass. Grass binds minerals,

Yes. This is also why junk food is bad. It has no vitamins/nutrients to utilise it so it will get it from your body instead of from food. So you get low vitamins in body over time.

Ah so your body is constantly busy with fighting toxins .

 

[barbaar]

ARL and TEI was founded from the work of Dr Watson. Dr Eck and Watts, improved on his work.( OR NOT))

But there are some discrepancies in protocols.


Here are original protocols for SLOW and FAST oxidizers.

I wonder if some people can try these and see if they feel better.

As you see a slow oxidizer protocol here, is the protocol that I gave Scenes, and personally used to get out of PFS 3 times.

Fast Oxidizer Diet – Jeremy E. Kaslow, M.D. this guy Kaslow just posted original dr Watson protocol on this website from the Dr Watson book that you can by on amazon



PS. I dont know which protocol is better, original dr Watsons, or ARL and TEI. but take into account that both ARL and TEI started to give zinc to a slow oxidizer, where Dr Watson does not.

May be they tested the brain or something. I am not sure.

@barbaar

The slow oxider recommendations on that page are pretty close to what I'm taking right now. I'm not taking any minerals except magnesium though. Feeling pretty decent today energy wise so I kind of want to see where it goes before adding in other stuff. I have a nice path of things to try if it doesn't work out

 

[Ingeno]

If the external factors are such a problem, one who becomes balanced needs to supplement B vitamins for the rest of their life.

 

[RebelWithACause]

If the external factors are such a problem, one who becomes balanced needs to supplement B vitamins for the rest of their life.

I think taking it once in a while once you are balanced is probably enough I assume. Like once a week take B complex.

 

[supernature]

like for me, just using very high doses of b1 and b2 made copper and iron work better on its own.

So need to test this.

This is why I give everything on the electrolytes protocol and high doses of B vitamins, to actually chelate iron and copper from the brain.

...

 

[Helen]

You have said you are slow oxidizer, electrolytes protocol is intended to pull off the stopped, slowed metabolism and thus maybe its best to be persuaded from both oxidations only short term with the high doses. Fast oxidizers might dont need that much of the fast nutrients esp long term.

Try this. may be you are wasting too much iron

 

[supernature]

Try this. may be you are wasting too much iron

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[RebelWithACause]

When I eat high calcium meal/drink I get heart pain/contraction. LOL Fuck that.

Never knew what caused it. But now I see after high calcium meal I get it.

 

[MNK99]

@RebelWithACause Heart Pain --> Always Bad???

 

[brix]

@RebelWithACause Heart Pain --> Always Bad???

Can’t imagine that’s ever a good sign...

 

[MNK99]

-1. UPDATE:
Today at 2:01 AM
#21

BRO ABOVE NOT ADVICE. REBELWITHCAUSAtION.
IN THAT CASE HEART PAIN = NO GOOD. I'd AVOID HEART STRESS!!! DO NOT STRESS OUT MAN.
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-2.

Can’t imagine that’s ever a good sign...

NO PAIN, NO GAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??? (((



uihc.org
Broken heart syndrome is a temporary heart condition that's often brought on by stressful situations, such as the death of a loved one. The condition can also be triggered by a serious physical illness or surgery. People with broken heart syndrome may have sudden chest pain or think they're having a heart attack.Nov 5, 2016

 

[RebelWithACause]

Lol, I don't know. I had same on anabolic steroids. Heart pain. My dad had heart attack at 60 (he alive though) so I am probably more prone to shit like this.