PINE POLLEN + VITEX (PFS)

Helen

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Messages
5,415
This combo could help some people who dont have the ability to get balanced, or who want immediate results.

Pine pollen has hormones in it , but it tanks potassium. Tanking potassium makes your estrogen not work so DHT does not work either. To support potassium while taking pinepollen , one can try to take vitex along with it.

It would be interesting to see how it effects libido and strength at the same time.
 
Last edited:

Helen

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Messages
5,415
Steve. Everything is explained in the first post. This is not to be taken by people who are trying to get balanced. This is basically a proper steroid cycle.
 

Admiral

Well-Known Member
Messages
959
Thanks Golduev! Not interested for now, obviously, but maybe if all fails and I am out of options

I’ve read a lot on Vitex and they say the dose is very important. You could have opposing effects taking a dose too little/much.
 

ruprmurdoch

Well-Known Member
Messages
468
As a person interested in vitex abilities, info which could be find around web, state that vitex have abilities to decrease prolactin. But some state that it have also abilities to increase prolactine. This demand more research.
 

Helen

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Messages
5,415
I dont suggest to take vitex separately , since it will not work for anything.
 

tanedout

Well-Known Member
Messages
538
Might give this a go! I'm currently taking pine pollen as I'm trying to get by baseline up to where I can get onboard with the electrolytes protocol fully. Since starting pine pollen 3-4 days ago I noticed yesterday my sweat now smells musky again and stress levels feel like they're starting to subside a bit, something that has been a real issue recently. If things continue on this path, I'll get some vitex and add this to the mix and see how things go!
 

tanedout

Well-Known Member
Messages
538
After taking pine pollen again for a week or so this is probably the most effective thing for brain fog I've tried. I felt this too in the past, things feel more real, doesn't feel so much like I'm in a dream all the time. Negatives I would say are it seems to result in shrunken junk and last times I got high-e sides like puffy, sensitive nips
 

Niles

Well-Known Member
Messages
670

RebelWithACause

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,714
Do you mean PFS guys?
How many PFS guys do you know?
A Million? LOL

Willy is doing good. I think he had/has PFS. Nandrolone gave him his libido back.

If the natural route does not fix me 100% within 6 months-12 months I will go on testosterone and nandrolone. Dem gainz bro!

Just kidding. But I am glad there is at least something that can potentially mask the symptoms if nothing else works.
 
Last edited:

tallglass13

Well-Known Member
Messages
287
@Helen, for testosterone, Pine Pollen Is good? for Progesterone, Vitex, but it would be hard to figure out how much progesterone with that. Better off taking real Progesterone 20mg , right. So is Pine Pollen with 20 mg real progesterone good?
 

tallglass13

Well-Known Member
Messages
287
Ive been seeing good results with 400-800 mg Pine Pollen, and 600mg Vitex. however, I don't think I'm getting enough progesterone with that.
 

tallglass13

Well-Known Member
Messages
287
@TubZy, yes you are right. My bottles states to take 4 as serving size. That's 1600mg. I will up the dose. I usually do the minimum first on all herbs and drugs. I'm still seeing libido and erection quality results though. I'm going to have to up the dose of Vitex or progesterone as well too.