Purchase your Super R Andro before it’s finally gone.

[MNK99]

--I think for a lot of people, the costs outweigh the benefits eventually.
-Like one cycle I did 47-49 days, 2nd I did 33-36days, then only mini cycles 3-5days, then like 1-2 days of the prohoromones.
-Possibly many months later I could use them again, but probably won't go very long. Likely overtrained more than any time outside of when I was 21-22 using these.
--Maybe another cycle will up strength as well as add a few lb of lean mass, but then cutting and getting rid of water retention, maybe 1-2lb.... probably should stick to TEI rather.

 

[Durantia]

Don’t take it any more if it’s giving the tachycardia. You don’t want to muck around with this stuff.

How is your recovery going otherwise?

I've had cycles with very minor problems, and horrible, horrible cycles. I'd rather drop them completely, but the results are too amazing. I attribute almost all of my improvement to these things. If I could figure out what causes a good or bad cycle, full recovery would only be a matter of time.

As for my recovery now..I had one year of slow, stately progress on the cd protocol. Then I fucked up and had a big setback. Since then, I've had a year of sporadic, guerilla-style recovery on the cd protocol.

I've never been less confident that I'm going to recover, but at the same time, I still haven't had a 2 month span where I didn't reach a high watermark. It's hard to explain. I've just had zero stability since my setback a year ago.

 

[Walker]

I've had cycles with very minor problems, and horrible, horrible cycles. I'd rather drop them completely, but the results are too amazing. I attribute almost all of my improvement to these things. If I could figure out what causes a good or bad cycle, full recovery would only be a matter of time.

As for my recovery now..I had one year of slow, stately progress on the cd protocol. Then I fucked up and had a big setback. Since then, I've had a year of sporadic, guerilla-style recovery on the cd protocol.

I've never been less confident that I'm going to recover, but at the same time, I still haven't had a 2 month span where I didn't reach a high watermark. It's hard to explain. I've just had zero stability since my setback a year ago.

I'm not endorsing this in anyway, but it might not be awful to try to supplement progesterone while on an R-Andro cycle. I couldn't in good faith say this would still be CD's protocol by any stretch...... but someone like @Helen might be able to help you out there.

Also, I had great success running some of my cycles with 4-Andro with them..... I didn't experience the total shutdown some report here, and it made for a very smooth ride while running R-Andro. I never had any of the potassium wasting symptoms that I had then, for what it's worth. Could've been masking them though, which wouldn't have been safe.

 

[Durantia]

So, for now, I've just completed my most thorough fast yet, so my plan is to see where that gets me over the next couple months. If I'm not satisfied that I'm moving in a positive direction, I'll experiment with baby amounts of R-Andro.

If both of those fail, I'll be truly hopeless and willing to experiment with new stuff. Right now, I still feel like I have something to lose.

 

[Walker]

So, for now, I've just completed my most thorough fast yet, so my plan is to see where that gets me over the next couple months. If I'm not satisfied that I'm moving in a positive direction, I'll experiment with baby amounts of R-Andro.

If both of those fail, I'll be truly hopeless and willing to experiment with new stuff. Right now, I still feel like I have something to lose.

God speed my friend. I’ll be hoping it works out for you. It should.

 

[Aflac94]

I've had cycles with very minor problems, and horrible, horrible cycles. I'd rather drop them completely, but the results are too amazing. I attribute almost all of my improvement to these things. If I could figure out what causes a good or bad cycle, full recovery would only be a matter of time.

As for my recovery now..I had one year of slow, stately progress on the cd protocol. Then I fucked up and had a big setback. Since then, I've had a year of sporadic, guerilla-style recovery on the cd protocol.

I've never been less confident that I'm going to recover, but at the same time, I still haven't had a 2 month span where I didn't reach a high watermark. It's hard to explain. I've just had zero stability since my setback a year ago.

Curious as to what the amazing results are specifically. Like what improved?

 

[Durantia]

Everything PFS related improved a notch every time I did at least 5 consecutive days of Andro. I'm not gonna name specifics, because it was literally everything.

 

[Trump_1776]

Why are you guys saying that is normal. Your body is supposed to get more used to the androgens and you should feel better after more cycles.

It gets to the point that R andros estrogen inhibiting properties begin to push estrogen too far down, leading to fatigue. A smaller dose is needed at this time, for R andro. Next week I'll test if proviron does the same thing

 

[Trump_1776]

Running a cycle of Andro Hard is definitely cheaper than R Andro. Dosage is just trickier with both being in there. Easy ticket to low estrogen.

What would you recommend dosage wise? You don't have any experience with it do ya?

 

[Walker]

What would you recommend dosage wise? You don't have any experience with it do ya?

Yeah, I have ran MG’s AndroHard, but it was after I considered myself recovered from PFS. I ran 400mg a day of both, that was too much.....I switched down to 200 mg/day of both (2 pumps morning and 2 pumps afternoon), supplementing KCl with it and had a fun ride for two weeks or so......anything longer than that for me since I’ve been recovered I start feeling shitty. It’s strange.

I’d start at 150-200mg a day of both and see how you feel.

Edit: math correction.... BS in Engineering really showing

 

[Trump_1776]

Yeah, I have ran MG’s AndroHard, but it was after I considered myself recovered from PFS. I ran 400mg a day of both, that was too much.....I switched down to 200 mg/day of both (2 pumps morning and 2 pumps afternoon), supplementing KCl with it and had a fun ride for two weeks or so......anything longer than that for me since I’ve been recovered I start feeling shitty. It’s strange.

I’d start at 150-200mg a day of both and see how you feel.

Edit: math correction.... BS in Engineering really showing

Why with potassium

 

[MaximalCrazy]

I've had cycles with very minor problems, and horrible, horrible cycles. I'd rather drop them completely, but the results are too amazing. I attribute almost all of my improvement to these things. If I could figure out what causes a good or bad cycle, full recovery would only be a matter of time.

As for my recovery now..I had one year of slow, stately progress on the cd protocol. Then I fucked up and had a big setback. Since then, I've had a year of sporadic, guerilla-style recovery on the cd protocol.

I've never been less confident that I'm going to recover, but at the same time, I still haven't had a 2 month span where I didn't reach a high watermark. It's hard to explain. I've just had zero stability since my setback a year ago.

You sound just like me. I also had one year of slow, steady progress that led me to my best days yet, I honestly felt like I was so close to being cured at that point that I got reckless and ended up just trying a sample of a testosterone booster a friend gave me to see what reaction I would have. I had tried many different test boosters up until that point with no harmful side effects. I honestly don't even know what happened or what went wrong, the ingredients in the product were all ones I had experimented with before, I suspect an estrogen blocker that was in the product was the culprit but it literally fucked up my PFS to a level even worse than my initial PFS in some aspects (mainly sexual) and killed my libido to non-existant levels (my libido was back to about 90% before this) and now, a year later, I am still at a lower baseline than I was before.

I haven't had an R-Andro cycle in this past year though, so maybe I should give it a try too. My first cycle of 400mg/day did absolutely nothing good for me besides making me lose some hair, there was no better baseline afterwards. My second cycle of 400mg/day gave me joint pain especially in my knees, made me lose a loooot of hair, but still not much of a baseline increase. These were all in the first year though, so maybe they did contribute to helping me. I think I will attempt another cycle at a lower dosage or together with 4-Andro this time, maybe run a shorter cycle.

 

[ncsugrad]

Everything PFS related improved a notch every time I did at least 5 consecutive days of Andro. I'm not gonna name specifics, because it was literally everything.

Did you get improvements while you were on it or after you stopped? I seem to feel good the first few days I take R-Andro (if I haven't taken it in a while) but after that it goes the other direction, so then I get annoyed and stopped taking it. Mainly genital numbness gets really, really bad. I'm assuming it's the increase in DHT but I'm not really sure.

You sound just like me. I also had one year of slow, steady progress that led me to my best days yet, I honestly felt like I was so close to being cured at that point that I got reckless and ended up just trying a sample of a testosterone booster a friend gave me to see what reaction I would have. I had tried many different test boosters up until that point with no harmful side effects. I honestly don't even know what happened or what went wrong, the ingredients in the product were all ones I had experimented with before, I suspect an estrogen blocker that was in the product was the culprit but it literally fucked up my PFS to a level even worse than my initial PFS in some aspects (mainly sexual) and killed my libido to non-existant levels (my libido was back to about 90% before this) and now, a year later, I am still at a lower baseline than I was before.

I haven't had an R-Andro cycle in this past year though, so maybe I should give it a try too. My first cycle of 400mg/day did absolutely nothing good for me besides making me lose some hair, there was no better baseline afterwards. My second cycle of 400mg/day gave me joint pain especially in my knees, made me lose a loooot of hair, but still not much of a baseline increase. These were all in the first year though, so maybe they did contribute to helping me. I think I will attempt another cycle at a lower dosage or together with 4-Andro this time, maybe run a shorter cycle.

How long were the cycles you ran?

 

[Walker]

Why with potassium

Both compounds are known to cause potassium to waste pretty badly. I took it and drank coconut water a lot to prevent the heart rate increase and other bad sides you get when potassium wastes.

 

[Reverse]

So what's the verdict?

Do we need prohormone to recover?

Is there a natural way to get the same effect?

Does it up regulate things permanently or is this more like a booster?

Please let me know guys, this could be my next purchase. thanks

 

[Walker]

So what's the verdict?

Do we need prohormone to recover? No. It is part of some protocols, it isn't part of others. Personally, I used it to recover from PFS, along with OTHER items in a holistic approach (@cdsnuts protocol)

Is there a natural way to get the same effect? Yes - high dose Pine Pollen is close. You won't get much better than that.

Does it up regulate things permanently or is this more like a booster? Both. Boosts you while on it, permanent gains after was my experience.

Please let me know guys, this could be my next purchase. thanks

This has been answered multiple times across multiple forums for the last three to four years.

People are glad to help, but at least do a little research of your own first. I cut you some slack - and answered in your quoted post in my post.

 

[Reverse]

This has been answered multiple times across multiple forums for the last three to four years.

People are glad to help, but at least do a little research of your own first. I cut you some slack - and answered in your quoted post in my post.

Thank you Walker appreciate it. This really breaks it down quickly for me. I'll look for more info myself in the future.

Gonna stock up on this and CD's list of herbs again!

Doing a detox/fast for about a week first, to optimize for absorption and results.

Speaking of. What do you guys think about distilled water vs filtered?

Some say the distilled is better and you add minerals to it during fasting and others say filtered is better. or is there no difference as long as they have good PH and mineral content?

 

[Oscar]

Finished my third R-Andro cycle Sunday (total of 3 bottles). Having more trouble sleeping these first couple nights. I don’t remember that on either of my first two cycles. Anyone else experience that?

 

[Carsot8]

Finished my third R-Andro cycle Sunday (total of 3 bottles). Having more trouble sleeping these first couple nights. I don’t remember that on either of my first two cycles. Anyone else experience that?

Have never heard of that problem with R Andro before. Common to have restless sleep ON cycle but not after. Your testosterone may be suppressed( i had terrible sleep when my balls shrank).