Reverse

[Reverse]

Hello everyone,

This looks like an interesting and very open minded place.

My struggle has been PFS for about the past 2 years.
So far I have about 90% the usual symptoms and ones I don't see mentioned such as carpal tunnel.
My hope is that I'll be able to reverse this and live a life free of protocols or any reminder of PFS.

So far I have seen little to no progress since being hit with this condition despite adopting certain regimens.
Hopefully there are some real and helpful answers here in how to beat this.

Good luck to everyone here fighting their own battle.
Cheers

 

[Reverse]

I'd like to get started trying RU.

There's short cycles and long cycles from what I understand.

How do I know which type I should do?

Also should I stop all herbs and vitamins during this process?

 

[Canari]

Hi reverse, well chosen name!
You can start explaining a little more what you tried, in the forum that you have always visited, the pfs one... http://hackstasis.com/viewforum.php?f=2
Just happy to welcome you in this new place that gives hope to many people!
Where are you from? Are you work, studying... and are you ok at general energy levels for your daily life?

 

[Reverse]

Hey Canari,

Thanks for the nice welcome.
I'm working and studying at the moment.

My energy levels are moderate most of the time.
Not what they once were but I can still function,
just need a cup of coffee sometimes lol

 

[Canari]

You are in the US? lol I try to go out of coffee with matcha instead, but no way, a coffee is very welcome after lunch at least! Before Peat, I did not need coffee at all, pfffffffffffff Of course it helped first, but then more ups and down too.

Are you lucky enough to be studying something related to health?

 

[TubZy]

I'd like to get started trying RU.

There's short cycles and long cycles from what I understand.

How do I know which type I should do?

Also should I stop all herbs and vitamins during this process?

Start with a short cycle, 3 days max I would say, longer cycles don't seem to be better at least from our initial experimentation.

Also, check out Ella too. The trials are on going now and seem to be getting great results. Ella and RU are very similar.

If you want something safer or less experimental you could try fasting, R-andro (androsterone) or herbs.

 

[mattyb]

My struggle has been PFS for about the past 2 years.
So far I have about 90% the usual symptoms and ones I don't see mentioned such as carpal tunnel.

This is very interesting. [mention]gbolduev[/mention] has stated that PFS is similar to metabolic alkalosis, and something like carpal tunnel is much more likely to occur in a state of alkalosis.

 

[Reverse]

You are in the US? lol I try to go out of coffee with matcha instead, but no way, a coffee is very welcome after lunch at least! Before Peat, I did not need coffee at all, pfffffffffffff Of course it helped first, but then more ups and down too.

Are you lucky enough to be studying something related to health?

Im in the US. Matcha is very good too, I like it more than coffee but it costs more lol.
I was thinking of studying nutrition or even bio-chemistry but its difficult to study, work and recover.
I'm taking a biology class this semester though and its very enlightening.

 

[Reverse]

My struggle has been PFS for about the past 2 years.
So far I have about 90% the usual symptoms and ones I don't see mentioned such as carpal tunnel.

This is very interesting. @gbolduev has stated that PFS is similar to metabolic alkalosis, and something like carpal tunnel is much more likely to occur in a state of alkalosis.

From what I've read, carpal tunnel can be caused by hormonal imbalance

 

[Reverse]

Does anyone know what we can take to heal the CNS?

 

[Reverse]

I'd like to get started trying RU.

There's short cycles and long cycles from what I understand.

How do I know which type I should do?

Also should I stop all herbs and vitamins during this process?

Start with a short cycle, 3 days max I would say, longer cycles don't seem to be better at least from our initial experimentation.

Also, check out Ella too. The trials are on going now and seem to be getting great results. Ella and RU are very similar.

If you want something safer or less experimental you could try fasting, R-andro (androsterone) or herbs.

Does R-andro and herbs work the same way as RU and ELLA?

 

[TubZy]

I'd like to get started trying RU.

There's short cycles and long cycles from what I understand.

How do I know which type I should do?

Also should I stop all herbs and vitamins during this process?

Start with a short cycle, 3 days max I would say, longer cycles don't seem to be better at least from our initial experimentation.

Also, check out Ella too. The trials are on going now and seem to be getting great results. Ella and RU are very similar.

If you want something safer or less experimental you could try fasting, R-andro (androsterone) or herbs.

Does R-andro and herbs work the same way as RU and ELLA?

From my personal experience, no they don't however they work in different ways. I don't think anyone really knows how herbs work because they do so many things however mainly because they are adaptogens.

R andro or androsterone could work in the same way but the jury is out. From my own experience, while on R andro I felt much different or RU or ella so it is really hard to say at least in my experience.

The only reason I mentioned the herbs in the past is because you really can't screw up from them especially when they are cycled once every 14-22 days so they are pretty safe and do help in a lot of areas. I would easily put fasting over it though.

We are still finding more and more things about RU and ella as days go by. Actually, Gbol is claiming he is testing finasteride, Ella and RU in the lab now so we should have a good idea soon. I wish he would come on here and post soon since it is easier that way. But a few of the guys have been in touch with him over Skype, we have been trying to get him on here again to post, suppsoely he has been making big progress in the lab though

 

[Canari]

Does anyone know what we can take to heal the CNS?

Heal its master, the ANS... Look at irenelyon.com, until now one of the best I found for self training, and there is a FB group sharing. I am in it.
https://youtu.be/I2H2-RG-sRc

 

[Reverse]

Thanks for the replies Canari and Tubzy!

Right now I have a dilemma in dealing with carpal tunnel.
I've had it for about 1 year now and now it is pretty severe.
I have lost mass in my hands (mostly muscle in palms), I have almost constant pain, tingling and weakness.
I also have pain if pressure is applied to any part of my arms but I'm not sure if this is due to nerve issue from carpal tunnel or if it's the CNS causing sensitivity.

I think I have no choice but to get direct steroid injection to the carpal tunnel to reduce inflammation and give my nerves a chance to heal. If I don't, I think my nerves will only have more damage and then I have less chance to heal. They say the benefits last about 6 months.
My plan is after the injections is to balance hormones as much as possible in those 6 months because it's a possible cause of carpal tunnel.

I was wondering if anyone has experience with this kind of treatment? Or if anyone has advice?

Until today, I was very hopeful and trying to be positive because atleast I can work and take care of myself.
I'm losing my hands and I'm only in my early 30's, this shouldn't be happening.

 

[Shadow]

But isnt CTS a matter of a compressed nerve?

 

[Reverse]

Yes, to my understanding it is inflammation of sorrounding tissue that is causing the nerve compression.

 

[IHateFin]

I'd like to get started trying RU.

There's short cycles and long cycles from what I understand.

How do I know which type I should do?

Also should I stop all herbs and vitamins during this process?

hey, man!
if youre considering Ru i would suggest getting some bloods done first just to check your prog.

we have seen ru help tremendously with those whom have high and low prog on their labs, and if you are going to pull the trigger the key has been seen that less is more. it seems the lower and shorter the dose/ cycle the better.
in my opinion a safe and efficiant cycle would be RU486 doses at 5 to 10mg for 3 days.

you could take other herbs such as a trib or tangkat, but during the cycle i would keep it relatively clean.

 

[joekool]

[mention]Reverse[/mention] welcome Reverse... one thing I mention to people, and i probably sound like a broken record, is tackle the symptoms in stages. Perhaps sleep is hampered so you may start with some calming / gaba supplements such as l-theanine and some 5ar like glycine. (Just suggestions)

The others here are right though, herbs have their place in recovery and success. I always took something even prior to PFS, such as trib or maca...

Along with what Tubzy posted, R-Andro was a good start for me... it converts to DHT via a different pathway than 5ar so you can get some much needed androgenic supplementation.

Other than carpal tunnel... what are you next few symptoms?? Have you had any bloodwork?

Some of us are in different stages of recovery and I'm sure we can help with advice on a regiment to get started.

 

[Reverse]

@joekool thanks for the advice to help my sleep.
My other symptoms include:

Pain in ears from normal-slightly loud volume of noise.
tinnitus
loss of muscle
lines in skin where muscle was before
less emotions/excitement
and almost all sexual side effects

 

[Shadow]

@joekool thanks for the advice to help my sleep.
My other symptoms include:

Pain in ears from normal-slightly loud volume of noise.
tinnitus
loss of muscle
lines in skin where muscle was before
less emotions/excitement
and almost all sexual side effects

Damn Im telling you guys, pfs, pssd and post acutane are tooooo similar... that must be a connection

Pain in ears from normal-slightly loud volume of noise. <- this is called hyperacusis, and I have it too
tinnitus

these non sexual side effects could tell a lot, but they are often ignored, and over the months I read a lot abou them, and guess what, they exist in all three syndromes... As a post ssri, I read a lot of similar complaints