Sleep

[Willylong98]

What have you fellas found most useful to combat insomnia?

 

[barbaar]

f.lux (or redshift if you're on linux) on your computer helps a bit. Still better to avoid bright light like screens an hour or two before bed.

Headspace is a pretty nice app for guided meditation, it can help too in my experience.

Avoiding caffeine as much as possible.

If all else fails, diphenhydramine. Not sure if that's a good idea since it blocks histamine, but I use it sporadically and it hasn't made me any worse as far as I can tell.

 

[wuf]

breathing meditation

 

[Canari]

There is a sleep forum with some topics Sleep & Stress Reduction

 

[Orion]

Glycine and taurine are usually recommended, few grams of each per day could be something to experiment with.

 

[Nina]

Exercise

 

[Ailaeshiz]

Right now resveratrol is helping me out.

 

[Aflac94]

@Ailaeshiz what specifically are you noticing with the resveratrol?

I have taken the phosphatidylserine (PS) 3 or 4 times now and I think it is helping me. Sleep seems a bit longer / less interrupted on those days. Still not like before so nothing too major but I'll take any improvement I can get.

Also trying the Wilson diet for 3 weeks, eating lots of vegetables, maybe helping some. Didn't notice much though until I took PS, so I think PS does something

 

[Ailaeshiz]

@Ailaeshiz what specifically are you noticing with the resveratrol?

I have taken the phosphatidylserine (PS) 3 or 4 times now and I think it is helping me. Sleep seems a bit longer / less interrupted on those days. Still not like before so nothing too major but I'll take any improvement I can get.

Also trying the Wilson diet for 3 weeks, eating lots of vegetables, maybe helping some. Didn't notice much though until I took PS, so I think PS does something

Hey. The phosphatidylserine wore off for me after a couple days. I've only been on resveratrol for a few days too so it might turn out the same way, but I got a solid 7 hours last night

Edit - aaaand it seems to have worn off

 

[brix]

Cyproheptadine works well.
CBD edibles.

 

[jaa]

Exercise

Just want to add that you may not want to do intense exercise too close to bed. Nothing like trying to sleep with adrenaline pumping.

As for my tips:

Turn off all your lights except for red lights an hour or two before bed.

Get early light.

Sleep in a dark room. Don't spend much time in bed aside from sleeping.

Bill Lagos at calories proper posted a study showing 3g of L-serine + early light induces melatonin onset like an hour earlier than just early light. It does not increase melatonin concentration.

 

[brexit]

Sleep is a big deal for anyone’s life. But, if someone is sleep deprived, it can have implications like strain on your nerves, reduce concentration, weaken your cognitive abilities or even impact your IQ and EQ level. So, you really need to improve your sleep habits.
Here’s what possible steps you can take. I know they are general but they helped me

• Fix a bedtime alarm. Schedule a bedtime and put your phone to go off 30 minutes before you need to sleep. So, it’ll allow you to finish the tasks which you needed to complete within time. So that you can go to bed on time. Make it a daily routine, even on weekends with slight delay.
• Get away from all sorts of mind engaging activities especially electronics before an hour to bedtime. It’ll allow your eyes to relax and get comfortable to sleep. Instead, listen some relaxing music with close eyes. It’ll relax your mind and you’ll easily get into sleep. It works for me.
• Make your room sleep-friendly. Keep your bedroom clean, well-organized and well-ventilated. Fill it with good, nice smell instead of stinky smell. Keep the windows open, so as to feel the slow wind. To avoid the noise, put a soft pair of good ear plugs so that your sleep don’t get disturbed. Invest in a nice, soft comfy pillow and mattress (here are some useful reviews Best mattress in UK Reviews of 2017 – find the best one)
• Meditate before you go to bed. (I am trying to form this habit myself)

Hope you`ll be strong and handle it!

 

[stupidfreak]

Does anybody has the thing where they want to sleep,but when they lie down they just keep driveling?Like constantly thinking something stupid without any conrol of the brain?

 

[barbaar]

Does anybody has the thing where they want to sleep,but when they lie down they just keep driveling?Like constantly thinking something stupid without any conrol of the brain?

Yeah, like 9/10 times I'm trying to fall asleep. Either that or getting progressively more annoyed about not falling asleep quick enough until sleep is pretty much not happening.

 

[stupidfreak]

Yeah, like 9/10 times I'm trying to fall asleep. Either that or getting progressively more annoyed about not falling asleep quick enough until sleep is pretty much not happening.

Interesting.More and more proof that pssd and pfs are much the same

 

[MNK99]

I feel they're similar in many ways. After quitting the SNRI and after quitting FIN, a relative (a physician) said
"You're acting exactly like you were when you first moved here."

 

[5 alpha]

I recommend the CDnuts sleep protocol off of his website.

magnesium powder and or topical
glycine
ziziphus from lost empire herbs

The three together all taken before sleep are a pretty effective combo with no "hang over" the next day

 

[Admiral]

Potassium for me. When it’s low or tanked I have insomnia. When I supplement with potassium chloride my sleep is miles better.

 

[tanedout]

Have had really bad insomnia for the last few nights, and last night ended up rifling through my supplements and took 500mg methionine. Worked like an absolute treat!

 

[tanedout]

Reading some more into this and it sounds like cortisol and melatonin oppose each other, much like progesterone and DHT and estrogen;

lower levels of melatonin do nothing to inhibit the levels of cortisol flowing through your body. That means that the imbalance tilts in the favor of cortisol – and that can have disastrous effects for nearly every aspect of your health and well-being.

The Balanced Dance of Cortisol and Melatonin | Stop Being Tired

Poor sleep is probably down to high cortisol in most cases, so this would explain why taking melatonin helps here. I need to experiment some more, but 500mg was very effective last night when I was unable to sleep due to feeling overstimulated/in fight or flight mode.