Slow oxidisers prototocoll

Slayo

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Slow oxidisers have lower concentrations of sodium and potassium, sodium and potassium are needed to keep in solutions the other minerals, without enough of them you accumulate all the other minerals in a non bioavailable form.
Also the lack of amino acids due to impaired digestion contribuite to the fact that taking minerals will just make you more toxic.
TEI and ARL don't seem to address this problem, and this may be the reason to the fact that they are very slow.
So i propose this protocoll to get rid of all the oxidised minerals and heavy metals that is possible to do as a stand alone or to add to TEI or ARL:

1)high dosages of sodium and potassium, someone will need more sodium others more potassium, find out which case you are

2)a balanced full spectrum amino acids

3)infrared lamp on the liver: the resulting increase in atp upregulates enzymes like gsh synthase and trasport proteins like mrp2, increasing detox of minerals that are just sitting in the liver (have tried it myself and it increase bile flow like crazy)

4)lipo gsh (only quicksilver brand, as it is the fastests acting gsh) just prior to sauna, being gsh water soluble it will be execreted with the sweat toghether with the toxins it bound. The more sauna you do the better. You can do up to 2 hours a day.

4)more sulfur, like sodium thiosulfate

5) nrf2 upregulators (like protandim)

6)betaine hcl

People that don't want to do TEI or ARL can add a gut binder to bind toxins like imd or ultra binder from quicksilver.

So in my opinion this is just a detox protocoll that can also speed up TEI/ARL, let me know what you think about.
To support what i said, you can read the comments of Salomon in these links: Nutritional Balancing Science
How to get and stay healthy
This guy seem to be toxic in all the minerals, and he does good on electrolytes, but he doesn't focus on amino acids and detox so i think his progresses are slowed down because of this
 
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Shanks

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3)infrared lamp on the liver: the resulting increase in atp upregulates enzymes like gsh synthase and trasport proteins like mrp2, increasing detox of minerals that are just sitting in the liver (have tried it myself and it increase bile flow like crazy)

how long do you do this?
 
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SwaZ

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Great info man. What wavelength should the infrared lamp be and for how long?
 

Orion

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1)high dosages of sodium and potassium, someone will need more sodium others more potassium, find out which case you are

I am high Ca and Mg, and low Na and K on hairtest. I think the high Ca and Mg are from H2 water used before the hairtest.

Would be nice to have a dosage chart, say based on body weight, height, hairtest levels, etc... most of us have no idea whether to take 5grams of K or 250mg for example.

Another test; I think high blood progesterone, would mean you need lots of K, but again what dosage?
 

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how long do you do this?
I bought one with the stand, so i don't have to hold with my hands all the time.
15 minutes twice a day are effective, howewer i use even up to 1 and half hour.
It makes my stools much darker, they are always yellow if i don't use the lamp
 

Slayo

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I am high Ca and Mg, and low Na and K on hairtest. I think the high Ca and Mg are from H2 water used before the hairtest.

Would be nice to have a dosage chart, say based on body weight, height, hairtest levels, etc... most of us have no idea whether to take 5grams of K or 250mg for example.

Another test; I think high blood progesterone, would mean you need lots of K, but again what dosage?

Dosages are subjective.
First thing you have to do is to find your na/k, once you find it you increase the dosages keeping the same ratio, you can mix them in 1,5L of water and drink it during the day, just experiments increasing slowly
 

Orion

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Dosages are subjective.
First thing you have to do is to find your na/k, once you find it you increase the dosages keeping the same ratio, you can mix them in 1,5L of water and drink it during the day, just experiments increasing slowly

Thanks @Slayo this is helpful.

My last ratio is 1.75, and the norm listed as 2.50, so I am at 70%

So this would mean I need roughly double the Na intake to K, interpreting this correctly?
 

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I am a fast oxidizer type 4 according to TEI, suffering with bad digestion / yellow stools. Does infra red lighting still make sense for me? Despite being slow oxidizer, Na/K is at 7.0

*edited, should have said fast oxidizer, not slow
 
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Slayo

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Thanks @Slayo this is helpful. My last ratio is 1.75, and the norm listed as 2.50, so I am at 70% So this would mean I need roughly double the Na intake to K, interpreting this correctly?

No, you can base the supplementation of na and k on hair test, you have to found yourself the correct ratio, you can start taking more na than k, but you can't say you need double amount, you have to experiment
 

Slayo

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I am a slow oxidizer type 4 according to TEI, suffering with bad digestion / yellow stools. Does infra red lighting still make sense for me? Despite being slow oxidizer, Na/K is at 7.0

Yes, infrared has been the best thing i did for yellow stools, no herbs would compete with it.

When i will have money i think i will buy a device for full body light theraphy
 

Continuous Heal

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Yes, infrared has been the best thing i did for yellow stools, no herbs would compete with it.

When i will have money i think i will buy a device for full body light theraphy

I have been using my infrared light now for a week or so. It's very relaxing, but hasn't changed my stool situation much. How exactly do you use yours?
 

Slayo

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I have been using my infrared light now for a week or so. It's very relaxing, but hasn't changed my stool situation much. How exactly do you use yours?

Mmm this is strange, do you have yellow stools ? I use it on my liver, try using it immediately after or before the meals for 20 minutes a day.

My lamp is 250-300 watts and I try to be as close as possible to the liver, sometimes I feel the skin burning but I keep using it
 

Continuous Heal

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Yes, yellowy for sure. Has gotten better since starting TEI, but still not normal, and hasn't been for a long time. I can try timing closer to meals, as I've typically done it first thing in the morning or before bed.

I feel like it is helping my energy levels regardless, and have been doing it 1-3 times per day for 15-20 minutes.

Is there a chance this is more of a pancreas issue than a liver issue?
 

Slayo

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Yes, yellowy for sure. Has gotten better since starting TEI, but still not normal, and hasn't been for a long time. I can try timing closer to meals, as I've typically done it first thing in the morning or before bed.

I feel like it is helping my energy levels regardless, and have been doing it 1-3 times per day for 15-20 minutes.

Is there a chance this is more of a pancreas issue than a liver issue?

It can be possible, but I would first rule.out liver, so try it after meals or before, this is how I get the most benefits, if it doesn't work I would investigate the pancreas, you could even try to use the lamp on the pancreas but I don't know if it will work
 

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Yes, yellowy for sure. Has gotten better since starting TEI, but still not normal, and hasn't been for a long time. I can try timing closer to meals, as I've typically done it first thing in the morning or before bed.

I feel like it is helping my energy levels regardless, and have been doing it 1-3 times per day for 15-20 minutes.

Is there a chance this is more of a pancreas issue than a liver issue?

I had yellowish stools too.. nutricology pancreas glandular (pork) 1 to 2 with meal helped alot. I don't need them anymore.. pretty sure it cleared it up.
they have a beef version too.