Sodium Bicarbonate (3 days) Bad reaction

BeLikeWater

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Hello guys I have taken sodium.bicarbonate 3 days, during the intaking I felt ok. Butblisten a week after that I have been feeling like my PFS state has gone worse like I was 1 year ago, feeling femenin and other things that didnt happened to me from long time ago. Actually I was feeling very good last months near like I was before finas. What has happened any idea?
 

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I don't know but I'm getting black tooth decay and using baking soda with my toothpaste is the only thing that seems to be working. I would go back to the big name toothpaste and mouthwash full of chemicals like Colgate and Listerine but they made my gums bleed and made my mouth unhealthier by killing good bacteria. I don't know what to do, for years I used the all natural ingredients toothpaste but those are weak I guess which led me to this problem
 

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Im feeling horrible, pure pfs also had been taking some antioxidants. Im feeling bad.... I was feeling ok... feeling that estrogen dominance now
 

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I'm sorry bro @BeLikeWater.

I actually did use Baking Soda frequently when taking Dexedrine (For ADHD/memory -work). Maybe hurt digestion a couple times but certainly no crash nor PFS mental symptoms.

I hope you get better soon.
 

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Im feeling horrible, pure pfs also had been taking some antioxidants. Im feeling bad.... I was feeling ok... feeling that estrogen dominance now
What antioxidants? Many can be estrogenic and/or 5AR inhibitors.
 

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Sodium bicarb can induce bacterial die off/ herxheimer reaction. I get it when I over do it on salt baths.

That’s probably all you’re experiencing. Try to balance it off with Epsom salt baths (magnesium). And drink a lot of water.
 

BC2018

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Sodium bicarb can induce bacterial die off/ herxheimer reaction. I get it when I over do it on salt baths.
So you should combine it with probiotics when you regularly take it? Last time I drank a lot of baking soda with water I got some burning in my throat feeling but I was crashing hard that day, sometimes its better not to take anything.
 

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So you should combine probiotics when you take baking soda?

I mean it can’t hurt. My thing would be not taking baking soda if it bothers you.

But if you are looking for a cheap Lyme protocol- google “salt and c protocol for Lyme.” Maybe add to that kefir, colostrum, probiotics.

And when sodium becomes too taxing and you’re feeling too much herx, start doing magnesium baths and end it with the salt.

I am doing kefir, colostrum, probiotic smoothies mixed with avocado, plantains, bananas. They are incredible for my gut and immune system. Goat kefir seems to have most benefits.
 

Ocguy

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Hello guys I have taken sodium.bicarbonate 3 days, during the intaking I felt ok. Butblisten a week after that I have been feeling like my PFS state has gone worse like I was 1 year ago, feeling femenin and other things that didnt happened to me from long time ago. Actually I was feeling very good last months near like I was before finas. What has happened any idea?

Hope it's just a temporary thing.. if you are going to use a sodium based product for acid etc, consider Alka seltzer GOLD it's aspirin free, this stuff has been a life saver for me at times when heartburn flares, it has sodium citrate AND potassium.. so it's less likely to cause an imbalance.. it's also used for detox in the Lyme community,

for me i only take it on occasion. And since mineral balancing even less often as it hasn't been needed.
 

Ocguy

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I don't know but I'm getting black tooth decay and using baking soda with my toothpaste is the only thing that seems to be working. I would go back to the big name toothpaste and mouthwash full of chemicals like Colgate and Listerine but they made my gums bleed and made my mouth unhealthier by killing good bacteria. I don't know what to do, for years I used the all natural ingredients toothpaste but those are weak I guess which led me to this problem

My teeth and gums have been absolutely wrecked from pfs.. lots of bone loss and receding gums despite meticulous care..

The last year my periodontist prescribed prevident and MI paste.. receding has stopped, and gums no longer bleed.. I need about 5 teeth pulled and implants, but I'm holding out as long as I can.. these two products have put it on pause, teeth are white af.. as well.

You can find both online.. also use a rubber tip daily around the gumline and a proxy brush (in between) teeth, as well as floss.. this keeps all the plaque at bay

I usually pre brush with plax mouthwash

I used to use all the natural shit religiously, but was having horrible checkups and kept slipping, so I surrendered to the heavy shit
 

Ocguy

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I don't know but I'm getting black tooth decay and using baking soda with my toothpaste is the only thing that seems to be working. I would go back to the big name toothpaste and mouthwash full of chemicals like Colgate and Listerine but they made my gums bleed and made my mouth unhealthier by killing good bacteria. I don't know what to do, for years I used the all natural ingredients toothpaste but those are weak I guess which led me to this problem

Forgot to mention.. you could consider Lanap. it's basically laser root planing ..

kinda pricey but it will reset your entire mouth.. it goes all the way down the teeth and destroys the plaque and bacteria to the bone.. if u can't shell out the bucks, then maybe a general root planing.. it's not as powerful but still helps alot..much more than a basic cleaning

u may need to get the black one pulled before it starts rotting the others

I can totally sympathize with dental issues.. huge fucking pain
 

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Try potassium chloride.
What ammount of baking soda have you been taking?
 

BC2018

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I can totally sympathize with dental issues.. huge fucking pain
Do you think rinsing my mouth with hydrogen peroxide everyday for a week will get me anywhere with improving my teeth? What about those detoxes where you bath your entire body in it for an hour? I want to try that but first I need one of those double layer compression speedos or it might go up my butt and scald my genitals
 

Ocguy

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Do you think rinsing my mouth with hydrogen peroxide everyday for a week will get me anywhere with improving my teeth? What about those detoxes where you bath your entire body in it for an hour? I want to try that but first I need one of those double layer compression speedos or it might go up my butt and scald my genitals

Bathing? Nah.. u got to hit that bacteria directly. . Hydrogen peroxide can help.. it's a little harsh on enamel if used a lot.. but I would use it with a waterpik.. waterpik in general is good..most people that use it, swear by it.

but seriously if u want to stop it, get a deep cleaning first.. probably looking at 1200 bucks.. at the very least, get a regular cleaning.. then follow this protocol everyday

1.Pre wash plax ( 1 min)
2. GUM brand rubber tip.. insert at gumline
Go around entire mouth
3. Floss, dental tape
4. Proxy brush. Wide go in between each tooth
5. Prevident. Colgate 5000
6. MI paste. Put tiny bit on finger and apply front and back around entire gum line (u have to apply to finger a few times to cover the area..)

Use Braun electric brush.. the one with the round circular bristles.

I don't know your level of disease or how deep your pockets are.. but if they're deep than regular brushing and flossing isn't going to get far enough down there.. but once u clear it with a dentist the above protocol will Definitely keep it from progressing..

Oh, u can also try oil pulling with coconut oil, that might do it.. look it up on google
 
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BC2018

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Forgot to mention.. you could consider Lanap. it's basically laser root planing ..

kinda pricey but it will reset your entire mouth.. it goes all the way down the teeth and destroys the plaque and bacteria to the bone.. if u can't shell out the bucks, then maybe a general root planing.. it's not as powerful but still helps alot..much more than a basic cleaning
I used a holistic dentist the last time I went in which was an improvement but they still say to just bare the shooting nerve pain during a cleaning but I'm starting to question that, if I got tortured in water with a car battery attached to my testicles I wouldn't lose so many brain cells. There's got to be another less traumatic approach or something I can do to bring the pain tolerance up and the gum sensitivity down.
 
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Ocguy

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I used a holistic dentist the last time I went in which was an improvement but they still say to just bare the shooting nerve pain during a cleaning but I'm starting to question that, if I got tortured in water with a car battery attached to my testicles I wouldn't lose so many brain cells. There's got to be another less traumatic approach or something I can do to bring the pain tolerance up and the gum sensitivity down.

Novacaine.. u shouldn't have any pain with a cleaning.. a deep cleaning yea, they numb u up..

The MI paste reduces sensitivity considerably btw..

Just find a regular dentist.. check yelp reviews.. get whatever problems handled now before it spreads, and costs a lot more to fix
 

BeLikeWater

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I'm sorry bro @BeLikeWater.

I actually did use Baking Soda frequently when taking Dexedrine (For ADHD/memory -work). Maybe hurt digestion a couple times but certainly no crash nor PFS mental symptoms.

I hope you get better soon.
Maybe aomething in the antioxidanta supplement I bought? I developed a bit of Gyno.