TEI not doing great

[Maxin]

Just started my Tei supplements about a week ago.

I am really feeling shitty. I think it’s the adrenal glandulars. And there seems to be a lot of b6 but not a lot of other b’s to balance that amount. It feels like when I’ve over methylated myself in the past. Just completely empty and numb. And wanted to crawl out of my skin. Suicidal thoughts. Zero motivation for anything. Clumsy af, dropping things, forgetting things. So am I suppose to just stick this out? I know some of you said you feel worse on tei but this is on a whole other level. I have a four year old to take care of on my own.

I’m so tired of spending money to try things to be told I will feel worse until I feel better. And honestly I always feel worse but never get to the “better” part. Ok rant over. Thanks if you spent the time to read this .

 

[brix]

Are you taking the full protocol? Maybe take half spread through the day. I feel shitty sometimes on TEI. I feel like I really need to eat a lot.

 

[TubZy]

Drop it down to one dose per day and yes it is common what you feel now. Many of us have felt that way. Also try hitting the gym and sauna too that always helps me

 

[brix]

Drop it down to one dose per day and yes it is common what you feel now. Many of us have felt that way. Also try hitting the gym and sauna too that always helps me

You ever feel like you lose muscle on TEI? Work outs are easier but I feel slimmer/hungrier all day.

 

[TubZy]

You ever feel like you lose muscle on TEI? Work outs are easier but I feel slimmer/hungrier all day.

This cycle I actually feel the opposite, like my appetite is very low and not as slim. Last cycle I felt anabolic like crazy but POIS and fatigue were way worse

 

[Maxin]

My fatigue is disabiling. No way I can work out. I’m practically bedridden at the moment. It’s good to hear that this is not unusual. Does it get better though?

 

[TubZy]

My fatigue is disabiling. No way I can work out. I’m practically bedridden at the moment. It’s good to hear that this is not unusual. Does it get better though?

Drop it down to one dose and just force yourself to work out one day and see how you feel after. Almost every cycle I did I always felt better after working out but yeah getting over the fatigue was the hardest part prior. Yes, it does get better as you go on, but the best way to reduce the negatives is to reduce the doses down

 

[Maxin]

Drop it down to one dose and just force yourself to work out one day and see how you feel after. Almost every cycle I did I always felt better after working out but yeah getting over the fatigue was the hardest part prior. Yes, it does get better as you go on, but the best way to reduce the negatives is to reduce the doses down

I will lower the dose thank you. I actually can’t work out due to the severity of my cfs. Even before starting tei. It will set me back for a week and I get very ill. Kind of why I’m going down this path. Lexapro caused severe chronic fatigue for me.
Great to hear that it got better for you, thanks so much

 

[Helen]

@Maxin I told you that your hairtest is impaired by insulin))) why are you taking TEI?

 

[Maxin]

@Maxin I told you that your hairtest is impaired by insulin))) why are you taking TEI?

I don’t believe that taking intra nasal insulin for four days effected hair test. And it was months ago. Hair test seemed pretty accurate considering that I know my adrenals are shot.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Dude on the first TEI cycle I slept in the weekend BOTH days. Laying on my bed all weekend. Did nothing, just workout on Sunday and the rest of the day rest. I was fatigued, depressed, anxious, etc. This lasted the full 2 months and even 2 weeks after I quit. After 3 weeks I finally felt the higher baseline.

It is hard if you are guy who always is moving in life but the first two months you need to accept you will slow down. It is only 2 months.

Now second cycle much better. I have improved a lot. No more crazy fatigue where I have to sleep.

But you need to push through it. Sometimes your head will fuck with you A LOT. It will say it is not working or this and that. All bullshit. You need to be aware of it. You will have days where you will feel terrible.

You need to give yourself kick in the butt and take it easy on the days where you can. If you have time to rest, take the rest. I said this before put your head in the sand and get through the 2 months. UNLESS your hairtest is wrong. If not. Push through. Your mind will fuck with you 100%.

 

[Maxin]

Dude on the first TEI cycle I slept in the weekend BOTH days. Laying on my bed all weekend. Did nothing, just workout on Sunday and the rest of the day rest. I was fatigued, depressed, anxious, etc. This lasted the full 2 months and even 2 weeks after I quit. After 3 weeks I finally felt the higher baseline.

It is hard if you are guy who always is moving in life but the first two months you need to accept you will slow down. It is only 2 months.

Now second cycle much better. I have improved a lot. No more crazy fatigue where I have to sleep.

But you need to push through it. Sometimes your head will fuck with you A LOT. It will say it is not working or this and that. All bullshit. You need to be aware of it. You will have days where you will feel terrible.

You need to give yourself kick in the butt and take it easy on the days where you can. If you have time to rest, take the rest. I said this before put your head in the sand and get through the 2 months. UNLESS your hairtest is wrong. If not. Push through. Your mind will fuck with you 100%.

Alright I needed to hear this. So I take for two months. Then how long of a break until you started back up? And when do you retest. I know this has been answered but I would appreciate your help. Thank you!

 

[RebelWithACause]

Alright I needed to hear this. So I take for two months. Then how long of a break until you started back up? And when do you retest. I know this has been answered but I would appreciate your help. Thank you!

My plan is the first 3 cycles 2 months since there is possibilities changes will be faster in the beginning. After the first cycle I took one month off. Pretty much the same way Goose does it (2 months on, 1 month off). I would advice to send your hair again in the last week of your cyle or two weeks before it ends. This way you can keep going without waiting too long.

 

[bruschi11]

@Maxin your cfs is really bad it seems. Have you ever gotten tested for Lyme and co-infections? You are in the northeast USA where it’s getting too common.

And when I say Lyme and co-infections I don’t mean just your standard bullshit Lyme test. I mean getting mycoplasma, babesia, bartonella, rickettsia and so on checked.

Even if you have Lyme test done, you can’t trust doctors saying it’s negative. You need to look at results yourself and check for positive bands and several such as band 23 pretty much indicate something is going on.

Lot of doctors should be jailed for how this disease is handled in USA. Well the Educators teaching the doctors are most responsible. One of my best friends was a victim and recovery and now medical student. He is appalled for what they are teaching them about the illness, he can’t believe it’s real how minor they make it seem.

Also ammonia. Have you had ammonia labs done at all?

For the record guys and most of you that chime in above. Maxin is 41 year old woman who has had cfs for what? A decade?

For me- extremely high mycoplasma, low manganese, and elevated ammonia were biggest indicators in my bloodwork for my cfs.

 

[Orion]

Alright I needed to hear this. So I take for two months. Then how long of a break until you started back up? And when do you retest. I know this has been answered but I would appreciate your help. Thank you!

I am 2 weeks into my new TEI round, and it is knocking me out too. Very fatigued, irritable, feel like doing nothing. I am confident that my TEI report is correct this time, last hairtest was done when I was doing H2 water with the crowd.

I think it is most likely that we are coming off cortisol using protein for energy, and body is now adjusting to this. Stick with it, I hope good things come.

My plan is to retest every 2 months, so about 5-6 hairtests this year, want to push this forward!

 

[Maxin]

@Maxin your cfs is really bad it seems. Have you ever gotten tested for Lyme and co-infections? You are in the northeast USA where it’s getting too common.

And when I say Lyme and co-infections I don’t mean just your standard bullshit Lyme test. I mean getting mycoplasma, babesia, bartonella, rickettsia and so on checked.

Even if you have Lyme test done, you can’t trust doctors saying it’s negative. You need to look at results yourself and check for positive bands and several such as band 23 pretty much indicate something is going on.

Lot of doctors should be jailed for how this disease is handled in USA. Well the Educators teaching the doctors are most responsible. One of my best friends was a victim and recovery and now medical student. He is appalled for what they are teaching them about the illness, he can’t believe it’s real how minor they make it seem.

Also ammonia. Have you had ammonia labs done at all?

For the record guys and most of you that chime in above. Maxin is 41 year old woman who has had cfs for what? A decade?

For me- extremely high mycoplasma, low manganese, and elevated ammonia were biggest indicators in my bloodwork for my cfs.

I did all of those tests but I do not think I’ve tested ammonia. Would my regular doc be able to do that? I went to two different llmd’s as well as Open Medicine, probably the best chronic fatigue clinic in the states.

Bartonella shows but they alll said that I wasn’t considered Lyme positive and I would agree. I have no pain issues or anything that a lot of Lyme patients get.

My viral titers are all extremely high. I have done the valtrex anti viral route and did treat with antibiotics for the bartonella a couple times now. Mycoplasma I know shows as well. Mycoplasma is super hard to get rid of though. And I don’t see a lot of success treating it.

I know that my cfs was triggered by lexapro. And tbh I don’t feel like the typical cfs patient as I have the anhedonia and just complete change of self that came along with the ssri symptoms.

I see lots of people on fb’s neurotoxicity support group that have cfs triggered from ssri. I think ssri cause a major immune system dysregulation that then allows these viruses and bacteria’s that would be kept in check to not be in our bodies.

One thing that happened right when cfs was triggered was that I do not get sick. Can’t catch a cold or flu to save my life. So for me it does no good treating specific things when I have a faulty immune system. Why I am hoping tei can put my body in a better state. But I’m having a ridiculously hard time tolerating it this far.

 

[bruschi11]

I did all of those tests but I do not think I’ve tested ammonia. Would my regular doc be able to do that? I went to two different llmd’s as well as Open Medicine, probably the best chronic fatigue clinic in the states.

Bartonella shows but they alll said that I wasn’t considered Lyme positive and I would agree. I have no pain issues or anything that a lot of Lyme patients get.

My viral titers are all extremely high. I have done the valtrex anti viral route and did treat with antibiotics for the bartonella a couple times now. Mycoplasma I know shows as well. Mycoplasma is super hard to get rid of though. And I don’t see a lot of success treating it.

I know that my cfs was triggered by lexapro. And tbh I don’t feel like the typical cfs patient as I have the anhedonia and just complete change of self that came along with the ssri symptoms.

I see lots of people on fb’s neurotoxicity support group that have cfs triggered from ssri. I think ssri cause a major immune system dysregulation that then allows these viruses and bacteria’s that would be kept in check to not be in our bodies.

One thing that happened right when cfs was triggered was that I do not get sick. Can’t catch a cold or flu to save my life. So for me it does no good treating specific things when I have a faulty immune system. Why I am hoping tei can put my body in a better state. But I’m having a ridiculously hard time tolerating it this far.

I’m the mycoplasma guy pretty much around here lol. I had IGM 3600 and 3700. It is an extremely dangerous and potent pathogen that ruined my life and almost caused me to take it. Nobody knew what was wrong with me and We found that. Took a lot of work to get better but it’s entirely doable.

Post whatever blood work beyond hair analysis here if you can regarding Lyme if possible.

Treating that specifically along major natural health trek somehow cured me of worst cfs imaginable. I will post some links for you when I have chance. I love a couple guys on cfs forums who helped me map out my plan.

I had relapse in August really. Hydrogen water experiment gone wrong. It took me until this past month start treating mycoplasma again and I’m getting back on my feet.

Cfs is incredible really how bad it can be. I get it if anyone does. The most amazing part is when you get better and watching yourself take steps ahead. Believe in it, because it’s out there. You can do it!

 

[Aflac94]

I did all of those tests but I do not think I’ve tested ammonia. Would my regular doc be able to do that? I went to two different llmd’s as well as Open Medicine, probably the best chronic fatigue clinic in the states.

Bartonella shows but they alll said that I wasn’t considered Lyme positive and I would agree. I have no pain issues or anything that a lot of Lyme patients get.

My viral titers are all extremely high. I have done the valtrex anti viral route and did treat with antibiotics for the bartonella a couple times now. Mycoplasma I know shows as well. Mycoplasma is super hard to get rid of though. And I don’t see a lot of success treating it.

I know that my cfs was triggered by lexapro. And tbh I don’t feel like the typical cfs patient as I have the anhedonia and just complete change of self that came along with the ssri symptoms.

I see lots of people on fb’s neurotoxicity support group that have cfs triggered from ssri. I think ssri cause a major immune system dysregulation that then allows these viruses and bacteria’s that would be kept in check to not be in our bodies.

One thing that happened right when cfs was triggered was that I do not get sick. Can’t catch a cold or flu to save my life. So for me it does no good treating specific things when I have a faulty immune system. Why I am hoping tei can put my body in a better state. But I’m having a ridiculously hard time tolerating it this far.

Many of us here can’t get sick anymore , so we all must have disrupted, or overactive immune system

 

[Maxin]

I’m the mycoplasma guy pretty much around here lol. I had IGM 3600 and 3700. It is an extremely dangerous and potent pathogen that ruined my life and almost caused me to take it. Nobody knew what was wrong with me and We found that. Took a lot of work to get better but it’s entirely doable.

Post whatever blood work beyond hair analysis here if you can regarding Lyme if possible.

Treating that specifically along major natural health trek somehow cured me of worst cfs imaginable. I will post some links for you when I have chance. I love a couple guys on cfs forums who helped me map out my plan.

I had relapse in August really. Hydrogen water experiment gone wrong. It took me until this past month start treating mycoplasma again and I’m getting back on my feet.

Cfs is incredible really how bad it can be. I get it if anyone does. The most amazing part is when you get better and watching yourself take steps ahead. Believe in it, because it’s out there. You can do it!

I really would appreciate that! I have been so beat with tei but if you wouldn’t mind looking those over I will post my results. Would love to hear how you have treated your cfs as there aren’t many reports of cures. I know you are very determined and seem intuitive to what is happening with your body. Thanks so much for your help.

 

[Maxin]

So guys I think what’s killing me in the tei supplements is the vitamin a. I don’t usually have pain and my whole body hurts. Sore muscles and joints. Is it lowering my estrogen too much?