Water Retention Advice

[M_Mitchell08]

Hi All -

Been all over the place the last 6 months and could really use some advice. I have been on the path to recovery and truly feel that I am making great headway except for two stubborn issues. I think they might actually be related to one another and would really appreciate feedback. Since December of last year, I began putting on quite a bit of weight / bloat / water weight. I am up like 15 lbs normally starting off the day about 220 lbs and ending the day around 225. It is to the point that my close barely fit. At the same time, I have had nagging pain in my liver area and, through blood test, have been diagnosed with high liver enzymes. I have tried several things to see if I can get the weight to drop and only have been able to do so on a couple different occasion:

- Rogaine
- Swimming (chlorinated pool)
- Drinking (hard liquor is more impactful than beer)

What I find curious is that after the morning swim, which is about 1800 yards, I drop about 2-3 lbs and typically feel better through most of the day (weight eventually comes back on later in the day). It is exciting because there are times that I have even dropped 4-5 lbs so I know I am not completely broken, I just need some switch to flip. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out what that switch is. From the liver standpoint, I have taken TUDCA, LIVAPLEX, and a couple other items to no avail. I am still getting high liver enzymes and have pain in the area quite frequently. My next hairtest from ARL should be coming in shortly, so hopefully I will have more answers but just curious for any feedback.

 

[M_Mitchell08]

I will say, the water weight might have been something I have been susceptible to. I remember back when I was 16, my swim coach wanted me to get on creatine to become a spring freestyler - tried the product for a week or two but had to quit as it cause so much bloat it was throwing off my swimming.

 

[MNK99]

I am usually 175(too skinny then) to 190 (if I stop working out). 75-85% of last 12 yrs, 178-183. I was pretty lean and my best previous shape ever literally days before getting on finasteride. Either that or Lamotrigine or both made me fall to 167 or less from 178 in like a week. I was on ostarine before this... recomping.

Bedridden /bloated /depressed /no digestion I went to like 205lb in xmas.

Fasted like 30 d (5,6,20) and then was I think 179-180. Now (189-190) but strength greater than ever (thanks to fasting, randro, 4andro and getting a lot better, fasted training, controlled diet, etc).

I feel like I still have 3-4 lb water retn (impossible to know). But I think I had like 10+ before. So that bs will go away. Some may be from andro/4andro/pct. Rest from fin.

Perfect diet (for me), I can look ripped enuff everyday. Digestion is sometimes 8/10 others 6-7 (way better than 0), sometimes near perfect ish but I always had a stress response that affected digestion.


Even with deadly amounts of alcohol (vodka, scotch, premium mostly)(which is bad), I never was above 190 OUTSIDE of Effexor and Finasteride and the months to a year following both. effexor made me gain 28-32 lb or so all belly fat fin caused Anton of horrible things.

Anyways, I'm certain all is solvable.

Some weight gain issue might still be there or maybe with more muscle more water retn/fat is there. I don't know, but I did alternate day fasting at times and could lose fat FAST. Now I shouldn't really be cutting, but rather eating more perhaps to extract better benefits of my second R-Andro/4-Androncycle.

Several guys seem to say it gets better or they're near cured and have A SMALL AMT of water retn left.

It's def fin tho. I had a stomach surgery that can (and does) cause water retn but that was like 13 or so mo ago, called surgeon's office and they're like no that's done healing, it's gotta be your endocrinologist health/finasteride situation. Anyways, that was 5-8 weeks ago where I thought about water retn all the time. I think about it like 1-3 d a week now only for a few mins max. It'll get better with interventions.


Not for ev1 but last several yrs and way longer for cardio, I only ever train fasted or near fasted, and eat after 18-24 hrs (24 is pushing it but I'm insomnia ridden anyways). High fat low carbs probably make this worse as per some research if it's to be believed. Just throwing that in there (that it isn't good for ev1). Sometimes BC I know I underestimated at times ( a lot), I throw in 3000-3500 ish days. Also fasted or on a break /less active day.