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I was thinking lately a lot again hehe and I think I am done with supplements. Specifically with high dose isolated one.. Like I have all those B vitamins separatly in high dose, minerals etc.. I thin k no matter how well you know what is going on in your body chemistry. Once you take high dose one vitamin/mineral it kicks the body out of balance every time.. I will sell the rest of the stuff I have here and the only stuff i will buy again is supplement derived from food = natural amounts found in food or if it will be synthetic like B complex it will be only in complex always and in 100 max 200% RDA for each vitamin/mineral..
Otherwise I will keep fucking myself up taking stuff. Maybe I will reconsider this approach once I have hair test in my hand...
Are you taking stuff lie high dose B vitamins etc. guys?
Otherwise I will keep fucking myself up taking stuff. Maybe I will reconsider this approach once I have hair test in my hand...
Are you taking stuff lie high dose B vitamins etc. guys?
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I don't use it anymore (B vitamins) did for a while when my metabolism was really slow. You already tested the liver like ate it?
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I believe that the main problem remains how to manage metals such as copper, zinc, iron, and manganese in cases where they are toxic to the brain and liver but are needed in other organs and tissues for essential bodily functions...enzymes...do you agree?
Well yes and that will be fixed by good bile flow and ceruloplasmin production. I think copper antagonists makes it impossible for the body to rise ceruloplasmin and start to use that copper.. Even most practitioner recommend some copper to rise sodium/adrenals to signal the liver make ceruloplasmin.. As much as I don't agree with Morley Robbins and root cause protocol he will be right in this.. Just taking antagonists will do anything for me now.. If anything it will push copper to the blood where it will be free and now I am fucked even more..
But I think I shouldn't push it with liver now since my bile is not online due to stress. So here we are what I said when I started this log LOL. That I shouldn't do anything before I move and will be stress free..
But I think I shouldn't push it with liver now since my bile is not online due to stress. So here we are what I said when I started this log LOL. That I shouldn't do anything before I move and will be stress free..
Basically I know what I have to do to instantly improve which is move. But because it is next to impossible for me now I cope with trying to figure out supps/diet etc. But I know it will do shit in my case..
So I go in circles here about bullshit. Spending more and more and more money on useless supplements. Getting stressed even more because they do shit obviously and becaues my health is getting worse and worse.. I think I should stop reading internet and post here until I get hair test. So I can hear your opinion on it. But for now I have to just stop going crazy on the internet. Eat normal food, move more outside.. I got much worse since I started reading here stuff again. PTSD flashes came back from 8 years ago lol..
So I will try to do that.. Will start tomorrow. No more reading about this stuff until I have new blood work/hair test so I have actually something reasonable to talk about...
So I go in circles here about bullshit. Spending more and more and more money on useless supplements. Getting stressed even more because they do shit obviously and becaues my health is getting worse and worse.. I think I should stop reading internet and post here until I get hair test. So I can hear your opinion on it. But for now I have to just stop going crazy on the internet. Eat normal food, move more outside.. I got much worse since I started reading here stuff again. PTSD flashes came back from 8 years ago lol..
So I will try to do that.. Will start tomorrow. No more reading about this stuff until I have new blood work/hair test so I have actually something reasonable to talk about...
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Good luck dude.
Heh they didn't have liver. It's weird. 10 years ago they had liver from like 10 animals.. But it's probably a good thing.. So when I was already in the center I did some bike riding in the old center which I never do basically. It is so nice historical city. I live there almost 40 years, but I never enjoyed any of that.. I mean how I could when I live in survival mode all the time.. I mean not just because how fucked up my body always was, but now on top of that the fear of see someone who I knew from school, older friends or even family members that I avoid. Because what is there to talk about "so how it's going" "oh yeah great I am 40yo fucked up mentally and physically living with my parents thinking about suicide".. So that puts me into fear mode and that means the body shuts down.. No wonder I felt great in different country for the first time in my life basically. There was nobody there that I know and even if was I was finally living on my own, working. So even if I had to make some cringe small talk with someone I was not afraid and I didn't have to make stuff up... I don't want to see even people in my apartment building where I live. There are still living even boys who were younger than me and now they live in their apartment with own family. I mean what they think of me. What we should talk about. I can imagine they would love to ask "wtf is wrong with you dude".. I am much more aware of this stuff now when I stopped all that cope with killing myself with exercise etc.. At least now I see the reality and what is the big reason why I probably have liver issues all the time etc.. Yes I am fucked up with copper toxicity etc.. But the body would deal with it long time ago if I was not in constant fear/stress mode.. What is fucked up is that I had the money to move out in February when stopped working. But Instead doing that I stayed at home getting worse each day and spending money on useless stuff.. But like I said at least hopefully from now on no more coping, Just trying to get my shit together(saving money and not get distracted with some cope again) and move out so my body can start to detox..
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You say there is no bile flow, but are you sure you can guarantee production? So let's go back to the NADPH cofactors (B1, manganese, phosphorus, B3...).
There is a YouTube channel that talks about digestion (he is NOT a doctor) where, as Helen also pointed out, he advocates the use of HCL but only AFTER making sure you don't have bacterial infections in your stomach and small intestine... after that, for bile flow, he only recommends a supplement made from beet leaves... just the leaves.
Some ideas for you: maybe you can continue with a clove-based bitter and HCL in large doses before or at the beginning of a meal...
The copper issue is really complex... I'm also trying to understand more about it... but I have a semi-inhibited acetylcholinesterase enzyme that is almost killing me...
There is a YouTube channel that talks about digestion (he is NOT a doctor) where, as Helen also pointed out, he advocates the use of HCL but only AFTER making sure you don't have bacterial infections in your stomach and small intestine... after that, for bile flow, he only recommends a supplement made from beet leaves... just the leaves.
Some ideas for you: maybe you can continue with a clove-based bitter and HCL in large doses before or at the beginning of a meal...
The copper issue is really complex... I'm also trying to understand more about it... but I have a semi-inhibited acetylcholinesterase enzyme that is almost killing me...
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For what it's worth I am in a similar position. I read some philosophers back in the day lived the same way though. There's always been people like this. Not saying I am some genius or philosopher. But living alone and a lonely life has existed a long time. I know a few buddies who also live lonely lives.
I lost the "shame" a long time ago. I don't even care if I meet someone from the past now. Most people don't even remember me. I met some dude from high school and he didn't even remember me lmao. Most people just go through life tunnel vision and then they die. I doubt they think of you. Maybe they will think sometimes wth is that guy doing that's about it. Most people if they remember me look at me positively now they think I am doing really good in life. Which is the opposite. So people's perception doesn't matter.
I rather be honest if people ask me what's up I would just say I am dealing with health issues. Most people won't even ask lol... they don't give a shit. I never had to explain myself. If you are trying to hold up appearances good luck lol. It takes a lot of energy and it's fake shit.
That's the good thing about this stuff is at least you will have a wider range of understanding. You are a smart dude I read a lot of your posts back then eventhough people were hating on you sometimes you made a lot of sense. Trust your gut instinct and move forward, all you can do.
I lost the "shame" a long time ago. I don't even care if I meet someone from the past now. Most people don't even remember me. I met some dude from high school and he didn't even remember me lmao. Most people just go through life tunnel vision and then they die. I doubt they think of you. Maybe they will think sometimes wth is that guy doing that's about it. Most people if they remember me look at me positively now they think I am doing really good in life. Which is the opposite. So people's perception doesn't matter.
I rather be honest if people ask me what's up I would just say I am dealing with health issues. Most people won't even ask lol... they don't give a shit. I never had to explain myself. If you are trying to hold up appearances good luck lol. It takes a lot of energy and it's fake shit.
That's the good thing about this stuff is at least you will have a wider range of understanding. You are a smart dude I read a lot of your posts back then eventhough people were hating on you sometimes you made a lot of sense. Trust your gut instinct and move forward, all you can do.
@highserotonin90 I did 100 posts about it. I moved to different contry and from the first poop bile was working. First poop at home and again pale, hard to pass, floating in the toilet..
@RebelWithACause I don't mind living alone. When I hear someone talking how he doesn't have anyone and lives on his own etc. I envy him lol. Because I live surounded by family members who stress me out like crazy like my stupid sister for example who is crazy estrogen/copper bitch who thinks that I don't have to have life. I just have to help with whatever she and her family needs lol.. It is not about living alone. It is about not be in crazy fear/survival mode all the time.. Here it is small place. They almost all live where they lived as kids. Of course they can recognize me. I barely changed lol.. Yeah some people don't care about others and just talk and talk about themselves. I feel good around people like that because I know they will not ask questions, but some people see you for the first time and they want to know everything lol. I mean I am embarrassed to even say my real age. I am always like don't ask me how old I am in my head lol. Or in work. Often times I don't apply for a job just because it is some small business where everyone knows each other. Share everything together etc. and here I am that fucking 40yo weirdo looking like 25 at most living with parents etc.. I can't deal with that shit so I gave up on that job. So for the last 10 years or more I worked only for some work agency. So I am always that guy who is not one of them, he is just temporary worker. So I can keep distance from them etc.. It is horrible way of life.. But I will be ok once I am on my own not surrounded by people or places that give me PTSD basically.. Just I am stupid fucker that I was not focusing on that much sooner and just coping with stuff like buying bikes and burning my adrenals on crazy long rides etc..
@RebelWithACause I don't mind living alone. When I hear someone talking how he doesn't have anyone and lives on his own etc. I envy him lol. Because I live surounded by family members who stress me out like crazy like my stupid sister for example who is crazy estrogen/copper bitch who thinks that I don't have to have life. I just have to help with whatever she and her family needs lol.. It is not about living alone. It is about not be in crazy fear/survival mode all the time.. Here it is small place. They almost all live where they lived as kids. Of course they can recognize me. I barely changed lol.. Yeah some people don't care about others and just talk and talk about themselves. I feel good around people like that because I know they will not ask questions, but some people see you for the first time and they want to know everything lol. I mean I am embarrassed to even say my real age. I am always like don't ask me how old I am in my head lol. Or in work. Often times I don't apply for a job just because it is some small business where everyone knows each other. Share everything together etc. and here I am that fucking 40yo weirdo looking like 25 at most living with parents etc.. I can't deal with that shit so I gave up on that job. So for the last 10 years or more I worked only for some work agency. So I am always that guy who is not one of them, he is just temporary worker. So I can keep distance from them etc.. It is horrible way of life.. But I will be ok once I am on my own not surrounded by people or places that give me PTSD basically.. Just I am stupid fucker that I was not focusing on that much sooner and just coping with stuff like buying bikes and burning my adrenals on crazy long rides etc..
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This guy smokes, eats junk and is taking insane amounts of zinc, molybdenum, vit C, EGCG, vit B5,B6,B7 for like 4 years and looks like this what the fuck.
I take 20mg of zinc and I am bald HAHAHAHAHAHA
I take 20mg of zinc and I am bald HAHAHAHAHAHA
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My uncle smoked too and had good hair while his brother (my dad) had balding. Sometimes smoking helps people with hair I noticed.
Cigarettes are high in toxic metals too. Cadmium replaces zinc pretty sure. Could be why he needs way more of it.
Anyways to me moving never helped at all. But if people stress you out too much then moving is good so you can focus more on the problem. I lived in a small place for years when I was healing which was very quiet and yes it did help mentally. But I don't think mental stuff influence physical so much. I used to believe it too but now I don't. I healed even in very shitty circumstances.
Cigarettes are high in toxic metals too. Cadmium replaces zinc pretty sure. Could be why he needs way more of it.
Anyways to me moving never helped at all. But if people stress you out too much then moving is good so you can focus more on the problem. I lived in a small place for years when I was healing which was very quiet and yes it did help mentally. But I don't think mental stuff influence physical so much. I used to believe it too but now I don't. I healed even in very shitty circumstances.
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"But I don't think mental stuff influence physical so much"
Are you saying that chronic mental stress will not influence physical health? You can't be serious.. Chronically high stress hormones from mental stress is much worse for the physical body than stress from physical stress. We are well adapted to physical stress. You build more muscles, more stamina, stronger bones, ligaments, tendons, but chronic mental stress will just break you down. Ask PRO athletes how well they perform if their mental stress is high for some reason..
In terms of moving. I assume that you lived on your own not with people who stress you out 24/7.. Just imagine you have to act in some way 24/7 so you don't start crazy argument that will spike your adrenaline for days.. Your body is in constant sympathetic dominance which means there is no rest and digest happening.
Hard to explain this to someone who never experienced that.. I mean I agree with everything you said so far, but this idea that mental stress will not influence physical health is almost laughable.
Your physical body can't be healthy if something is increasing stress hormones all the time.
But you can share those very shitty circumstances if you want. I shared stuff that I never said anywhere else as well..
On topic of that HG7 guy. I said he smokes and eats junk just to show that he is not trying to do healthy stuff. He just takes 4 years insane amounts of copper antagonists and his looks show zero signs of copper deficiency. That is simply crazy to me. I mean someone should post this photo and what he dose to groups like root cause protocol , copper revolution etc.. hehe
"But I don't think mental stuff influence physical so much"
Are you saying that chronic mental stress will not influence physical health? You can't be serious.. Chronically high stress hormones from mental stress is much worse for the physical body than stress from physical stress. We are well adapted to physical stress. You build more muscles, more stamina, stronger bones, ligaments, tendons, but chronic mental stress will just break you down. Ask PRO athletes how well they perform if their mental stress is high for some reason..
In terms of moving. I assume that you lived on your own not with people who stress you out 24/7.. Just imagine you have to act in some way 24/7 so you don't start crazy argument that will spike your adrenaline for days.. Your body is in constant sympathetic dominance which means there is no rest and digest happening.
Hard to explain this to someone who never experienced that.. I mean I agree with everything you said so far, but this idea that mental stress will not influence physical health is almost laughable.
Your physical body can't be healthy if something is increasing stress hormones all the time.
But you can share those very shitty circumstances if you want. I shared stuff that I never said anywhere else as well..
On topic of that HG7 guy. I said he smokes and eats junk just to show that he is not trying to do healthy stuff. He just takes 4 years insane amounts of copper antagonists and his looks show zero signs of copper deficiency. That is simply crazy to me. I mean someone should post this photo and what he dose to groups like root cause protocol , copper revolution etc.. hehe
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I think it's very childish to judge or take inspiration from a photo that proves nothing... especially considering the fact that it could be fake.
No it is not fake and relax bro. I don't "judge or take inspiration from photo"
I just shared that photo as something interesting. That someone can take crazy amounts of copper antagonists fro almost half a decade and look like he does.
When all promoters of copper are pale/red skin with white/grey hair basically look copper deficient while they push copper all the time heh..
I just shared that photo as something interesting. That someone can take crazy amounts of copper antagonists fro almost half a decade and look like he does.
When all promoters of copper are pale/red skin with white/grey hair basically look copper deficient while they push copper all the time heh..
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He's a slow oxidizer doing a slow oxidizer supp regimen..
If I take high amounts of zinc like him my cortisol will take calcium from my bones. Same from molybdenum. If I lower my copper a lot I get calcium problems. But I remember when I was a very slow metabolism then taking anti copper was better than eating too much copper for sure.
Even Helen was anti liver etc. People just forget all this shit every few years lol Nobody says Morley Robinson is good here. Nobody promotes any of that here. I dont understand why it still lives on tbh. We all seen the results by now from people who promote copper. He was even posting that copper cult showing the bad effects of high copper diets. Especially for slow oxidizers.
But yes once copper is low enough you can eat liver and it will raise your ceruloplasmin, collagen etc. then it's good. OTherwise it's bad. And low copper for very long term unless you stay as a slow metabolism is bad for calcium status and shit like that.
If I take high amounts of zinc like him my cortisol will take calcium from my bones. Same from molybdenum. If I lower my copper a lot I get calcium problems. But I remember when I was a very slow metabolism then taking anti copper was better than eating too much copper for sure.
Even Helen was anti liver etc. People just forget all this shit every few years lol Nobody says Morley Robinson is good here. Nobody promotes any of that here. I dont understand why it still lives on tbh. We all seen the results by now from people who promote copper. He was even posting that copper cult showing the bad effects of high copper diets. Especially for slow oxidizers.
But yes once copper is low enough you can eat liver and it will raise your ceruloplasmin, collagen etc. then it's good. OTherwise it's bad. And low copper for very long term unless you stay as a slow metabolism is bad for calcium status and shit like that.