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[Aleksandr]

this is what I rec'd to you. If you increase calcium you might spare some of the Bs.

So they rec more of the diet to be fats for a fast oxidiser, because they slow oxidation rate compared to carbs.

Do they actually slow oxidation rate though? Or is it just less speeding up, compared to carbs?

When i think about it though; fasting seems to be good for the slow oxidiser. So on one hand, not eating speeds us up. Carbs speed us up. Proteins are supposed to speed us up even more than carbs, maybe thats why i didnt feel so great on essential amino acids. But i understand anyway that we will need a decent amount of protein as a fast oxi / athlete.
Do fats actually slow us down?

Its also interesting that people have often said putting oils on the scalp seems to help for diffuse thinning. I've seen a lot of different oils recommended; emu oil, lard, casto oil, quite a few. I put some olive oil on my scalp yesterday after the itch / dandruff was gettng bad (I think from this imbalanced activated Bs!) and it seemed to help.

Maybe the mechanism is tha t the fat does indeed slow oxidation down, so locally the scalp tissue starts to spare Bs etc (and thus can thicken up the hair). What do you think @Helen?
@mattyb any thoughts?

I wonder if the best kind of oils would be high in PUFAs (as they seem to kill the metabolism the most)? LOL

 

[Helen]

@m_arch Another possibility I was thinking, you could have too sensitive aldosterone receptor, this retains sodium. this sodium stops adrenaline action. and all your tyrosine could go into the thyroid production. And thus you see faster thyroid.

IN this case, it is possible that NOT fast thyroid is causing this but actually high aldosterone is causing this. Might explain why you shed on B vitamins.

Sometimes this happens to people with very often sodium losses.

LIke you lose sodium oftern and then body adjusts the receptors and then you run always at high aldosterone

 

[Aleksandr]

@m_arch Another possibility I was thinking, you could have too sensitive aldosterone receptor, this retains sodium. this sodium stops adrenaline action. and all your tyrosine could go into the thyroid production. And thus you see faster thyroid.

IN this case, it is possible that NOT fast thyroid is causing this but actually high aldosterone is causing this. Might explain why you shed on B vitamins.

Sometimes this happens to people with very often sodium losses.

LIke you lose sodium oftern and then body adjusts the receptors and then you run always at high aldosterone

Yes thats what Tei says, na to k ratio is like aldosterone to cortisol.

If you look at my ca to k ratio its almost perfect, and this is supposed to be most reflective of the thyroid. I am lean and can put away a lot of food - but im not a rake. 13.5% bf on ~3000calories a day for my age height and bodyweight and activity level (26, 184cm, 75kg) seems about right.

Also with aldosterone not sure if super related but i hate coffee and caffeine makes me feel super jittery.
So then... i guess that perhaps the stress pak supp is the best thing for this? Since its for fasts with high na to k.

Aka stress pak biases b5 b6 b12 (over 1000% rdi), maybe these bring na down?


My sodium losses have probably been high from playing tennis for a 6yrs with no electrolyte drinks. Is there another solution? Do you rec that i have more sodium? Maybe my dry eyes are related to this... i need more sodium to retain more water and hydrate my eyes. Hmm. Not sure.

 

[Helen]

@m_arch I am just guessing, may be if you do crazy sodium loading, it would stop this crazy sodium retention like that


ARL just gives you B vitamins for this, they increase your adrenaline, and this way try to downregulate aldosterone. But while you are take it you will experience more of the effect of this higher ratio


I think Zsoka had this. He is a sports guy, and he went on low sodium diet for 3 months. After that he crashed, and the hairtest showed high sodium on the hairtest. He started to load up on sodium and his sodium came down on the hairtest

 

[Aleksandr]

Been eating a lot of cheddar cheese this week, high in sodium and calcium. Feeling good.

 

[Aleksandr]

Ive been keeping the cheddar cheese high, still feeling good. My dry eyes feel much better also. I wonder if its slowed my oxidation so now im not using up the nutrients so fast that my eyes need.

Also stress pak came today and i just started. The capsules look huge and hard to digest

Ive also started eating sauerkraut because i heard that b12 is made by bacteria in the gut

EDIT: I also had raw tuna a few times which maybe jelped my eyes due to the omega 3

 

[Aleksandr]

Aaaargh

Not sure if its from the stresspak or what, but i played tennis on the weekend and ever since then i've had a headache varying from low-level to very annoying, on and off.

After the tennis i felt a lot of my old symptoms come: dry eyes, dry scalp, difficulty relaxing. Hopefully eating all this cheese will help calm me down again and piss off these headaches, and oil my eyes and scalp up a bit.

 

[Aleksandr]

Headache has lifted; scalp is still dry as. I have heaps of dandruff. Going to try applying cod liver oil to my scalp...

 

[Orion]

Headache has lifted; scalp is still dry as. I have heaps of dandruff. Going to try applying cod liver oil to my scalp...

Dry skin could mean you are burning too much fat (good b2 and b3 metabolism), you should try high dose B1, to shift back towards sugar metabolism.

As always make sure you have Bcomplex or diet covered for other Bs

 

[Aleksandr]

Dry skin could mean you are burning too much fat (good b2 and b3 metabolism), you should try high dose B1, to shift back towards sugar metabolism.

As always make sure you have Bcomplex or diet covered for other Bs

Interesting. I think @Helen actually thought i might do well on b2.

I still havent figured out how all these Bs work and how they effect other nutrients

 

[Aleksandr]

So after seriously declining health i officially quit stresspak yesterday. It was stress in a pack. I think ARL is super harsh on the body. I sprained my knee last week and im inclined to blame the ARL on that. I think if my physiology hadnt been good beforehand i would of torn an acl or something. Lucky to get away with just a sprain. My whole body feels tired, tendons feel weak, eyes feel super dry. Feels just like before i started this protocol - only now my diet is also better and im taking electrolytes still.

Anyway i hope i will get a massive snap back even though i was only on it for 3 weeks or so.

I have also ordered 'sym pack' TEIs equivalent product for fast oxidisers for "anabolic support" (i could use some of that right now!!!) Im gonna have some faith in its ratios of Bs (its got b2 @Orion - you on this sympack stuff? , b5, b6, b12.sounds good to me)

 

[brix]

So after seriously declining health i officially quit stresspak yesterday. I think ARL is super harsh on the body. I sprained my knee last week and im inclined to blame the ARL on that. I think if my physiology hadnt been good beforehand i would of torn an acl or something. Lucky to get away with just a sprain. My whole body feels tired, tendons feel weak, eyes feel super dry. Feels just like before i started this protocol - only now my diet is also better and im taking electrolytes still.

Anyway i hope i will get a massive snap back even though i was only on it for 3 or 4 weeks.

I have also ordered 'sym pack' TEIs equivalent product for fast oxidisers for "anabolic support" (i could use some of that right now!!!) Im gonna have some faith in its ratios of Bs (its got b2 @Orion - you on this sympack stuff? , b5, b6, b12)

I liked sympak. Crazy libido, no hair loss for a while. Effects wore off though after a month or so.

 

[Aleksandr]

I liked sympak. Crazy libido, no hair loss for a while. Effects wore off though after a month or so.

Did you retest your hair when the effects wore off? Maybe it made you too slow

 

[Aleksandr]

My current plan; just do sympack for 3 months with good diet (keeping calcium high) + electrolytes. Then retest, and jump on a full TEI protocol.

 

[brix]

Did you retest your hair when the effects wore off? Maybe it made you too slow

Haven’t retested. I wish it made me slower. I feel as fast as ever: heavy body odor, catabolic, etc.

Going to retest soon though.

 

[MNK99]

I think just fasted training and super strict diet made me a bit slower and less catabolic and then Tei helps further. I was strong but I was lifting like 8 hrs a week and cardio a bit per week and insane numbers of reps. Now feel exhausted with less. And probably look the same but must be a bit stronger and leaner. I will stop catabolicness soon if not already hopefully... Next hair test might be all uranium tho I fucking hope not.

 

[Orion]

So after seriously declining health i officially quit stresspak yesterday. It was stress in a pack. I think ARL is super harsh on the body. I sprained my knee last week and im inclined to blame the ARL on that. I think if my physiology hadnt been good beforehand i would of torn an acl or something. Lucky to get away with just a sprain. My whole body feels tired, tendons feel weak, eyes feel super dry. Feels just like before i started this protocol - only now my diet is also better and im taking electrolytes still.

Anyway i hope i will get a massive snap back even though i was only on it for 3 weeks or so.

I have also ordered 'sym pack' TEIs equivalent product for fast oxidisers for "anabolic support" (i could use some of that right now!!!) Im gonna have some faith in its ratios of Bs (its got b2 @Orion - you on this sympack stuff? , b5, b6, b12.sounds good to me)

I don't use sympack, I take individual minerals in the amounts suggested.

 

[Helen]

@m_arch As I told you , ARL never gives separate supplements. you cant take stress pack or sympack. they do nothing alone

"ARL just gives you B vitamins for this, they increase your adrenaline, and this way try to downregulate aldosterone. But while you are take it you will experience more of the effect of this higher ratio"

This is what I told you.

ARL balances this with other supplements. they dont just give you bs

So lets hope as you took off the Bs now. your ratio will fall lower than before

 

[Helen]

Effects wear off since you cause deficiencies in other stuff

 

[Aleksandr]

Yeah it seems stresspak is wearing off, dandruff feels like its coming back along with feeling like my breathing is faster and doesnt want to slow down... fast oxi feeling.

On the plus side my tendons feel stronger and i have more energy.