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Was my NADPH low because of the high copper , and fin pushed me over edge? Or is copper not connected to NADPH

Why do you say unless you take DHT ? What’s the connection there...because it’s after the NADPH step????

Interesting to hear the anemia linked to insomnia, sounds like me , but like I said it was much more than just insomnia all these basic bodily functions were fundamentally different

So I can only do copper chelation or TEI? Those are only two options for me to get better?

Interesting, Like I wrote before I took progesterone a few weeks ago and it crashed me similar to finasteride So cortisol would crash me too, since it requires NADPH for 5-alpha metabolites

Exactly as I wrote , one pill = feel shitty for a week (insomnia) = then normal or better then normal for 2 months = then middle of the night woke up like lightning struck my brain , in severe crashed state I doubt it’s just hemolytic anemia ...”When symptoms are triggered, they include fever...

Similar crash story One pill lead to immediate week long minor crash. Got better after the crashed week , felt pre-crash or even better for 2 months , except for odd sharp pains in head on/off. Then one night in middle of sleep woke up in the most devastating crashed state

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No I was just saying maybe I have it , just rambling. Even though I had some health complaints before finasteride, things worked pretty good. Comparison to Now is night and day. I had the PFS crash for sure Does this change the recommend for me or still stand by copper chelation first? I...

No. And I have never experienced jaundiced as an adolescent or adult. Only found 1 CMP and bilirubin was normal. So not sure I am Gilbert’s, maybe another low functioning enzyme tho I was jaundiced at birth and put under the light therapy, but I was premature at 32 weeks (thanks to...

Gilbert's Syndrome Mutations Interesting site, definitely can see the connection you mentioned to not processing estrogens properly @Helen I’ll have to look back at my blood work to check unconjugated billirubin levels Reading through it , I’m interested in SamE supplement for methionine

Like I said I took R-Andro 300 mg a day so that felt good. One random day I felt amazing almost cured. But for rest of weeks I just felt better , not cured.

I had other issues before PFS (that I would take back any day rather than PFS) IBS type issues GERD Migraines Premature ejaculation (still sort of , actually improved with PFS) Anxiety Exercise addiction Lean/tone , but can’t gain weight Gives an idea of my previous body chemistry

I’ll make a note of that lol

I had the classic PFS crash tho... took 1 pill felt off for a week, then normal to even hyper-androgen for 2 months. Then wicked crash one night (if not PFS still a system crash) I only ever consumed 1 pill total

So straight TEI or something extra to chelate copper? Will that fix my glucaronidation and cure all my symptoms? TEI was giving me copper chelation pretty much , tons of zinc and vitamin C

Okay if you think it will make me worse I won’t , but you talked about the cortisol one a bunch lately, mentioning my case So don’t try a cortisol cycle? Like wuf others

I did R-Andro , the herbs + resvertrol , then came off everything and was Eating low to zero copper diet this past month I was feeling best I had since PFS (30-40 %). Before the progesterone experiment (fail). At least I can cross it off my list. I won’t wonder if I would have cured me.

Progesterone crashed me similar to finasteride. Obviously not as severe since I crashed from being 30% healthy to zero rather than like 80 to 100% healthy to zero (finasteride). Why would this have happened in my case? I took 2 mg alcohol tincture oral / sublingual of bioidentical...

I do have what I consider minor specific issues sexually... Decreased sensitivity down there and decreased orgasm intensity. Erections and ejaculate have never been an issue before or after PFS. Libido fluctuates from from really high to lower (before PFS always high). Immediately after an...