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Try camomile tea and/or ginger tea (just chopped ginger root in hot water). I've found these things help a lot with anxiety. I think potentially due to mast cell stabilisation. Other things I find help is eating rolled eats a few times per day (just rolled oats cooked in water - I add in...

Yeah I think to be classed as a 'recovery' you've got to have been off all the supplements for at least 6 months, and still feel normal. I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy, and great if he is recovered, but after the depths of PFS then you can feel a huge improvement from taking...

Bit of an update - still off the TEI sups. Focusing on gut and liver. Seem to have bad histamine issues causing my nose to run when eating, and this is probably resulting in leaky gut, which potentially is down to mast cell activation in the gut releasing a load of histamine. As a result...

Might be worth adding a b-complex that includes choline too. From the study it mentions this;

This is VERY interesting! What is noticeable here, other than the low Glutathione, is the ratio of SAM to SAH. In all cases there is low SAM (S-Adenosylmethionine), and high SAH (S-Adenosylhomocysteine). This totally ties in with the following study which looks into SAMe as a therapy for...

Good to hear it still works then. Think I'll definitely go with the no-epsom salt method when I do another - or at least take a lot less salts than is suggested. That's the one thing that really puts me off them, but I know what you mean, it probably ends up doing a really good colon cleanse as...

Did you expel any stones with that one?

Didn’t Ocguy also take 1/4 of a fin cap? @Ocguy do you know if your DHT is high or low? Anything to report from the fun?

Yeah almost certainly, but not yet. I'm currently taking Tudca and there is absolutely no doubt this helps the liver (was having issues eating fat, and pains in the liver/gb area - both much reduced after a week taking Tudca)

Just reading some studies. It seems the half-life of fin is actually quite short (it will apparently suppress DHT for up to 4 days for a normal dose, which I guess is 5mg). Clinical pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of finasteride. - PubMed - NCBI So maybe if a small dose only surprises...

Oh shit, maybe you are correct - I just searched for some posts on one of the guys who recovered to see if he followed up with anything a few months later and I found this; Oct '17 = Says he is cured Dec '17 = Still cured Feb '18 = posts the following saying after taking coke his sex drive...

Some of the testimonials from people who recovered are in this thread at the start. They all recovered after they stopped taking fin. After they stop fin there was a period when they felt nothing, then a week or so later their libido and everything comes back and they are cured. They did not...

@Helen what are your thoughts on potentially cycling a very low dose of fin?

I think the theory goes that some are left with upregulated AR receptors, and some are left with down-regulated. Those left with high DHT have down-regulated receptors, so if you lower DHT a lot by taking low dose of fin again, then the receptors have to up-regulate to take into account of less...

Just got some bloods back which were done last week when I was feeling really shit and stopped TEI - Liver enzymes - all in range - Electrolytes - all ok - potassium on the low side as usual (4 [range 3.5-5.5]) - Ferritin - high - 499 (range 10-322) - White blood cell count - low (not sure of...

So this basically mirrors the Accutane recoveries from cycling fin. I think to be honest this could also be why CD’s method works as it’s essentially cycling herbs of which a number as DHT inhibitors - E.G. Fo-ti, Tribulus, tongkat Interestingly B2 is also a DHT inhibitor in higher dose, and...

@Jlyan - good post, would be very interesting to see your hair mineral test results (TEI [Trace Elements]). Includes zinc and copper, so would show what your balance is like, and give you a list of recommended sups based on your test results. Edit: Also out of interest, do you, or did you...

From what I gather we only have 1 potential forum member with full PAS who has recovered, although not confirmed @Dasjes ? There are a string of recoveries from PAS by doing a cycle of fin. The recovery always comes as a 'rebound' once you quit. Hasn't worked for everyone who's tried though...

It was about 4 years ago I used it, I can't remember it having any effect whatsoever to be honest. I think it's safe to try, so by all means give it a go, but it did nothing for me

First time I've seen fulvic acid on their suggested sups lists, that's interesting. Are you going to follow the program? Your toxic elements are almost non existent (which is good obviously!) Do you have no amalgam fillings? Do you use only roll-on deodorant? (aluminium free)