Admiral’s PFS Log.. ARL/TEI since march 2018

[Admiral]

If I drop everything I will be back to my usual shitty baseline I was on for 13 years. Not all that different from where I am today.

I am on the electrolyte protocol for nearly 3 months and added MSM, boron, molybdenum and silica this past 10 days. I am aging years in just days. Recently added severve GERD, which makes swallowing extremely painful. Quit HCL, no difference. Even found tiny worms in my stools yesterday, whereas I freaking eat like a champion.

The most frustrating part is that I am doing everything right, even spending thousands of dollars on supplements and I am going backwards.

I tried fasting. Even completed 8 days on a water fast. Didn’t notice any benefits. Would love to try again, but I am 1.88, weighing under 80 kilo’s. Thin, muscleless and with abdominal fat which I can’t get rid of no matter what. Also have bad thyroid and adrenal health, which makes fasting even tougher. I can’t sleep if I don’t eat some carbs.

I’ve always had a positive mindset, but 13 years is a long ass time when you have all this. I’ve managed to hide most of my symtoms from my friends, colleagues and family, but they offen remind me that I look like shit. Even got myself a nickname “wrinkle head” which is rather painful if they even knew the full story. Anyway, this is the first time I’ve ever broken down like this in all those 13 years. I’m usually much stronger and more positive. I teach for gods sake.

I appreciate all the help though, but I think my body is not capable of recovering any longer. Don’t respond positively on anything. Not hormones, minerals, whatever..

 

[TubZy]

Ya a 7 day water fast with nothing but maybe some salt and potassium.

Yes and whenever I screw myself over by taking something like zinc, I just take nothing for the next couple of days and I feel better again, fasting would even speed it up quicker

 

[Helen]

@Admiral can you please post here what exactly you are taking now. Everything

 

[TubZy]

If I drop everything I will be back to my usual shitty baseline I was on for 13 years. Not all that different from where I am today.

I am on the electrolyte protocol for nearly 3 months and added MSM, boron, molybdenum and silica this past 10 days. I am aging years in just days. Recently added severve GERD, which makes swallowing extremely painful. Quit HCL, no difference. Even found tiny worms in my stools yesterday, whereas I freaking eat like a champion.

The most frustrating part is that I am doing everything right, even spending thousands of dollars on supplements and I am going backwards.

I tried fasting. Even completed 8 days on a water fast. Didn’t notice any benefits. Would love to try again, but I am 1.88, weighing under 80 kilo’s. Thin, muscleless and with abdominal fat which I can’t get rid of no matter what. Also have bad thyroid and adrenal health, which makes fasting even tougher. I can’t sleep if I don’t eat some carbs.

What are all the things you tried so far?

Also, during those 13 years you weren't in any supplements?

 

[Admiral]

@Admiral can you please post here what exactly you are taking now. Everything

It’s always updated in the opening post. I’ve only stopped the molybdenum and upped the magnesium to nearly 400mg a day.

 

[Admiral]

What are all the things you tried so far?

Also, during those 13 years you weren't in any supplements?

- fasting (though with poor refeed steps)
- testosterone
- Anavar
- SERM’s
- Hydrocortisone
- Thyroid medicine (NTD)
- CDnuts’ protocol (without the R-Andro)
- Vitamines, healhy lifestyle (low carb, no sugar, no gluten)
- Fitness (moderate and up to 5 times a week for 5 years - with absolutely zero physical progress. And I really mean zero).
- Intermittend Fasting
- Resting every weekend (in bed only)
- Cold showers
- Electrolyte protocol

 

[Helen]

It’s always updated in the opening post. I’ve only stopped the molybdenum and upped the magnesium to nearly 400mg a day.

I will look at all of this within couple of days. very busy these days, I will contact you via PM. You are taking all these randoms things. this has nothing to do with electrolytes protocol . electrolytes protocol has all electrolytes in it( sodium , potassium magnesium) , it does not have any separate minerals in it. It has shilagit in it for minerals.You need to take minerals base on your oxidation and not based on what is low or high on the hairtest

 

[Latapy]

@Admiral , man, you don't know how much I understand you. I think I am in a very similar situation like you. Also always very confused. Just check my story and see my whole list of symptoms.

I have these quotes from @gbolduev saved, because I think they can be a good start for those who do not know how to supplement themselves properly (like me). Gbolduev warns about it:

This protocol can be really simple.

Eat food, spinach protein at every meal. ( you need amino acids plus folate plus b12 from food.) Put HCL into water and drink after each meal. Then add electrolytes and gelatin.

This is not about protein, It is about everything that was not digested properly without chloride. calcium , iron, zinc, protein, folic acid, b12 etc. This is why you need to eat spinach kale with protein at every meal plus put HCL. on top of it

it is always better to get it from food. unbalanced sups. could be dangerous. I rec just all electrolytes. you can use salt with mangesium and potassium foods.

Also, adapt the protocol for yourself. If you do not do well with HCl, don't take it. I've been reading that plenty of people here don't do well with it (probably, because they already have enough stomach acid) and seem to just take digestive enzymes only. Etc.

Anyway, it seems gbolduev will help you now. But, meanwhile, you could start with the basic things to not confuse yourself more. Even if it is just changing diet, see what foods suit you best at the moment and not taking any supplement like @TubZy has said.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Not well at all. Really, seriously contemplating quitting life this weekend.

Zest for life is totally gone. I look 80, infertile, impotent, near diabetic, not mention a boat load of other issues. Every symptom seems to have gotten worse, whereas I have followed a very strict and healthy lifestyle these past three months. I’ve locked my self in and avoided all social contacts since. These imbalances I have aren’t likely to be corrected after 13 years of hell.

Might try a few things to make copper work again, but that’s it. I just hope everyone doesn’t make the same stupid mistakes I did.

I understand man. It's tough. I have had my moments the last few days. Try to keep going man. Maybe take a break from the forums. Choose a path and follow it. Then readjust if needed. Good luck. You can do it.

 

[Admiral]

Thanks Latapy, but I’ve followed that exact protocol for months and it hasn’t helped me yet. Or I might have added something wrong, yet everything I’ve added was adviced by a therapist.

I took 10 days off from the forum to get some rest, but I have so many questions, especially if things go downhill. Really afraid to try something else as that will really push me over the cliff.

I’ve called in sick for work for the first time in years, but I am not sick. Will sleep and rest a lot for the next few days and evaluate. Hope these suicidal thoughts will lessen a bit.

 

[MNK99]

@Admiral
I know you're thin (~6'2 and <176lb, not so bad at all). I know you say fasting isn't for you, but I had suicidal thoughts like 24-7, before my longer fast.
Never in my life was my depression that bad. Mostly gone now (normal life kind of eats away at me too, but fixing this all will improve it). I was bedridden for a couple months, only doing things when I was forced to by others, sadly. Fasting with a proper (though imperfect) refeed, helped my mood, turn off those thoughts, energy, mental side effects a lot. And digestion and weight gain as well.

I mean don't fast if gbolduev says it's a bad idea. You're still relatively young and have a lot of life ahead of you. And can look forward to a lot. I know it sounds like bs, but it's not. Electrolytes and some other things aren't for me either. They may be in the future, they may not be. Disengaging from the forums if you can for awhile like @RebelWithACause said is a good idea too. I may do the same just so I don't obsess so much.
-maybe ru486 (or ellaone) after refeeding for a while.

 

[HerrFisch]

I would drop that magnesium. And use potassium and salt only. I know it’s not the electrolyte protocol, but a lot of slows have problem with magnesium. So add that later.

 

[Latapy]

Thanks Latapy, but I’ve followed that exact protocol for months and it hasn’t helped me yet. Or I might have added something wrong, yet everything I’ve added was adviced by a therapist.

I took 10 days off from the forum to get some rest, but I have so many questions, especially if things go downhill. Really afraid to try something else as that will really push me over the cliff.

I’ve called in sick for work for the first time in years, but I am not sick. Will sleep and rest a lot for the next few days and evaluate. Hope these suicidal thoughts will lessen a bit.

Yeah... My skin is yellow/orange, dark circles under eyes, I am thin, probably anemic. I have also cut all my social circles, because I would feel even sicker and felt like no one would support me. I also start to not identify with them anymore. However, I know that not having social friends can be a really pain in the ass in healing. This is when forums, health communities enter. Even though I also think these can create as many sick people as they help.

Well, at least you are able to work. I am unemployed and even the basic tasks sometimes seem like a burden for me.

Yeah, ignore those thoughts. Glad you are aware of them. That is already a good thing. No need to follow them. It's very hard and I know that pretty well.

There are also simple things that one person can always do like: getting lots of sunlight daily, light movement, ceasing electronics.

So often when we begin the healing process, and our bodies finally start to clean out the old junk, our detoxification organs are undernourished and overworked, and cannot handle the process very well. This often makes us more sick even though we are actually doing the right things to heal. This can be confusing and cause folks to re-evaluate or believe they are doing something wrong, when they may not be

You can do it man!

 

[Orion]

If I drop everything I will be back to my usual shitty baseline I was on for 13 years. Not all that different from where I am today.

I am on the electrolyte protocol for nearly 3 months and added MSM, boron, molybdenum and silica this past 10 days. I am aging years in just days. Recently added severve GERD, which makes swallowing extremely painful. Quit HCL, no difference. Even found tiny worms in my stools yesterday, whereas I freaking eat like a champion.

The most frustrating part is that I am doing everything right, even spending thousands of dollars on supplements and I am going backwards.

I tried fasting. Even completed 8 days on a water fast. Didn’t notice any benefits. Would love to try again, but I am 1.88, weighing under 80 kilo’s. Thin, muscleless and with abdominal fat which I can’t get rid of no matter what. Also have bad thyroid and adrenal health, which makes fasting even tougher. I can’t sleep if I don’t eat some carbs.

I’ve always had a positive mindset, but 13 years is a long ass time when you have all this. I’ve managed to hide most of my symtoms from my friends, colleagues and family, but they offen remind me that I look like shit. Even got myself a nickname “wrinkle head” which is rather painful if they even knew the full story. Anyway, this is the first time I’ve ever broken down like this in all those 13 years. I’m usually much stronger and more positive. I teach for gods sake.

I appreciate all the help though, but I think my body is not capable of recovering any longer. Don’t respond positively on anything. Not hormones, minerals, whatever..

I'm 188cm (6'2) and went from 90Kg to 68Kg(200lb to 150lb) during my 54 day Bruess fast. But I now know 3 months re-feed post fast and back to 80Kg(175lb), it has been the most life changing thing for my health. Sleep not perfect but has improved, body composition is muscular, libido good, junk hangs much lower and fuller. My skin is still too oily, but clear, and lastly haven't solved hair shedding, but still working on this!

My main issues has been my skin, and I never thought I would have youthful clear soft healthy looking skin ever again on face and body, my skin was destroyed all over my body by all the shit I was trying in the name of health to fix it, which in turn made me depressed and lacking all confidence....



I vote for some long fasting, 20-30 days water only.

 

[Helen]

@Admiral I told you many times, that whatever your therapist told you was bogus. It has nothing to do with nutritional balance, or the mineral balancing program. Therapists dont tell the program, Program is made by the computer. According to your tests you tested with Trace elements. Whenever you test with them they give you a program , plus you can buy exact supplements from them to take, so you dont have to take some random stuff again.

You keep taking some random stuff and call it protocols. It is not a protocol.

Why do you keep changing what you are taking in the original post. It is important to know what you took thru all this time. not just what you are taking now. this is why you have a log, SO you can post what changes you make.

 

[Admiral]

Guidance here is hard to find, though. One hairtest even came without advice. They linked up a therapist for you who discussed the outcome and mentioned some stuff you could take. The other one had bogus supplements that only made me worse, such as that adrenal complex.

I ordered another hairtest last week. Different site. Contacted Arltma and they specifically mentioned that they used to work with that one over here so I had high hopes, only they mentioned that there will be no blueprint and that I need to pay extra to discuss the possible supplements with a therapist. Not going that route again. They are all holistic practitioners without a clue, but I don’t have anywhere else to go.

This all costed me a fortune and I am quite done with it. In fact, I am absolutely broke and can’t afford much else right now. I believe I spent 500 bucks on Eidon minerals alone. Most of them I still have due to adverse reactions. All my little savings have gone up in smoke so far it seems.

I will update the opening post based on stuff I’ve tried these past few months. Would love to hear from you in a day or two.

 

[bruschi11]

Don't quit man. Maybe take a break. A recovery vacation per say.

I don't know if my subtype is easier to make progress from others or I may have somehow got lucky, but miracles are possible no doubt in my mind knowing what I came back from.

One thing could change everything. EVERYTHING. Maybe take a break, but never give up!

Also a lot of these things (heck the whole month of August for me I felt like my brain was exploding) is you get worse before you get better.
Did you do coffee enemas (gbold recommended)? Maybe a month or so of modified gerson therapy could really help you. 2 or 3 coffee enemas per day, 50 oz of veggie juice (make sure some beet juice/breuss is in there).

My biggest jump forward in terms of overall health still seems to be that month of August where I did 1 to 3 coffee enemas daily, 50 oz juice, RIFE machine use like 3 hours daily and would use it every other night. Probiotic enemas. A two week juice fast at the end of it while doing all of the above. MMS, Colloidal silver, there are so many things out there that could just trigger the death of a pathogen in your body that could be causing havoc.

Just give it everything man- who gives a flying fuck what goes up your ass when on the other side of your body your beloved penis comes back to life.

I don't know- I've done a lot of shit in the last 8 months. Messed around with a lot of things. But you can definitely try some of what I have tried for very cheap $$$.

 

[Latapy]

Don't quit man. Maybe take a break. A recovery vacation per say.

I don't know if my subtype is easier to make progress from others or I may have somehow got lucky, but miracles are possible no doubt in my mind knowing what I came back from.

One thing could change everything. EVERYTHING. Maybe take a break, but never give up!

Also a lot of these things (heck the whole month of August for me I felt like my brain was exploding) is you get worse before you get better.
Did you do coffee enemas (gbold recommended)? Maybe a month or so of modified gerson therapy could really help you. 2 or 3 coffee enemas per day, 50 oz of veggie juice (make sure some beet juice/breuss is in there).

My biggest jump forward in terms of overall health still seems to be that month of August where I did 1 to 3 coffee enemas daily, 50 oz juice, RIFE machine use like 3 hours daily and would use it every other night. Probiotic enemas. A two week juice fast at the end of it while doing all of the above. MMS, Colloidal silver, there are so many things out there that could just trigger the death of a pathogen in your body that could be causing havoc.

Just give it everything man- who gives a flying fuck what goes up your ass when on the other side of your body your beloved penis comes back to life.

I don't know- I've done a lot of shit in the last 8 months. Messed around with a lot of things. But you can definitely try some of what I have tried for very cheap $$$.

I was also thinking about coffee enemas. They are already very good for cleanse and it could help for sure.

 

[TubZy]

Guidance here is hard to find, though. One hairtest even came without advice. They linked up a therapist for you who discussed the outcome and mentioned some stuff you could take. The other one had bogus supplements that only made me worse, such as that adrenal complex.

I ordered another hairtest last week. Different site. Contacted Arltma and they specifically mentioned that they used to work with that one over here so I had high hopes, only they mentioned that there will be no blueprint and that I need to pay extra to discuss the possible supplements with a therapist. Not going that route again. They are all holistic practitioners without a clue, but I don’t have anywhere else to go.

This all costed me a fortune and I am quite done with it. In fact, I am absolutely broke and can’t afford much else right now. I believe I spent 500 bucks on Eidon minerals alone. Most of them I still have due to adverse reactions. All my little savings have gone up in smoke so far it seems.

I will update the opening post based on stuff I’ve tried these past few months. Would love to hear from you in a day or two.

What kind of minerals did you buy? Isn't Eidon minerals only like $15?

 

[Admiral]

What kind of minerals did you buy? Isn't Eidon minerals only like $15?

About 30 euro's per bottle, which barely lasts you 3 weeks. That's the price over here at least.

Also, I tried coffee enema's actually. Had awful sleep that night, probably because of the caffeine, even though I'm not sure the caffeine gets absorbed at all.
And I want to fast, but I can't. My thyroid and adrenals are too sluggish. Without carbs I lay wide awake at night.