1st yes, everyone should start slow. NO point starting with the max dose.... and the bottles say 1 capsule for 4andro, and something similar for R-andro.
But if you talk to guys who use it for PFS or otherwise, they say things like: "It's useless below 4-5 caps or so then it becomes too expensive". I don't think it's useless, but those are bodybuilder type guys.
--In general for harm mitigation and reduction from any long term substance, using as low a dose as possible, that is effective is a good rule of thumb.
I do not get why people do use R Andro in a big amount, like 2-4 pills per day.
If I would jump on R Andro, I would just use half a pill or 1 pill per day, what is the reason to suppress so much our system?
I think even small amount of R Andro would play and do something.
All people I know who used RAndro said it gives bad mood etc..so, take less of that shit and maybe you will have less sideeffects..
--Why? For much improved strength gains. ALSO, countering R-Andro's lower estrogen... one can use 4-andro. AFTER all that, giving a month or more... one can take TEI.
--Higher sexual health in terms of E.Q., reversed shrinkage (maybe that was randro, maybe that was fasting... maybe it was partly ru.. maybe electrolytes, who knows really??).
-BUT you're right there is a tradeoff. Bad mood at times, but major strength gains. I'd say on net, that was up there with ostarine, and such. Stronger than VAR str gains for now, but I am ill. And really... cutting/ recomposition is fine and can be done naturally too. I just feel if using for pfs, may as well use things like R-Andro or Var, to their fullest extent. With fasted training. SLowly titrating, being careful, then running a long post-cycle-therapy. --Suppression unless severe, is barely noticable. Or maybe things that don't increase my strength, I don't feel it. --I did go high on randro and 4andro, to fix it quicker, and also it felt natural.... but yes, would never recommend starting at high doses.
--also mega dosed 4-6 pct herbs (TMO) and also took a fair amount of Kingsblood, for a long time. Cycle length plus 2 weeks or so sometimes.
-Also worsened mood and getting from like 30-50 or 30-70% in subsequent cycles (or whatever jump is seen), can be worth it. Worse mood for a few hrs or all day, just work silently if possible, workout first thing in morning, avoid others then go back to normal life. --but yes, not ideal. Other things like TEI did not jack things up like that.
--tho it did cause bloating* a bit, but so does a lot of things. and it got better throughout cycle one. and after felt better on most fronts.
-PCT should help a lot too. --Other things taken, "can be suppressive"/ people will worry about. no issue. BUT I did not take ANYTHING till fasted, and nothing before that months and months (some random supplements, but not even anything I needed outside of pfs).