TubZy post_id=3318 time=1509643837 user_id=2 said:
gbolduev post_id=3311 time=1509642407 user_id=90 said:
In any case. I tested most of it, so I guess I can post here. Fin acts a progestin as we assumed correctly. Now the crash from fin and not ability to snap back is because there is a conflict between progesterone and cortisol created by fin. Basically after you get off fin, you have high progesterone and high cortisol and lowered 5 alpha reductase 2. Cortisol gets metabolized by 5 alpha reductase 2 , progesterone also. So you get stuck with high progesterone and high cortisol after fin. It should never be the case. Since progesterone should go high , cortisol low, cortisol high progesterone low. Since they regulate potassium in the cell.
In any case. when you take FIN it does indirectly inhibit 5 alpha reductase 2 by acting on progesterone and cortisol receptors.
After you quit fin. You have high progesterone and high cortisol. And low acitivity of 5 alpha reductase 2. The reason why it does not snap back, since progesterone keeps retaining potassium and potassium stays high in the cell. Cortisol is keeping retaining sodium and causing alkalosis which puts potassium even higher in the cell and this puts a huge pressure on cortisol.
5 alpha reductase 2 is what lowers cortisol. And it cant snap back, since cortisol is needed greatly at the moment.
So the body is stuck. It cant increase 5 alpha reductase 2. And thus cortisol goes to cortisone excessively. This lowers insulin secretion to very low since cortisone lowers insulin in the body. And you are diabetic.
So this is the my case. I am a case with low insulin. Fin has made be diabetic.
Zinc is lost in the urine like crazy now. and iron stays in the liver. Since body thinks I have tons of progesterone and tons of cortisol. DHEA grows since zinc is going away.
So now I will break this loop by tanking potassium in the cell. tanking sodium in the cell. And forcing cortisol up by blocking
cortisol to cortisone converison, which will increase my insulin back to normal. Without insulin back to normal, All my attempts to increase zinc will be met with castration since zinc will increases progesterone which will retain more potassium which will increase metabolism and puts more pressure on cortisol which will lower 5 alpha reductase even lower. since 5 alpha reductase metabolizes cortisol.
In this case , I will make my body have low potassium in the cell, and create increased cortisol( since I will stop cortisone conversion). Since increased cortisol should never exist with low cell potassium, body will have no other way to proceed but to upregulate 5 alpha reductase 2 to fight fatty liver and convert excessive cortisol . And I will get fixed from all these effects. Basically I will lower potassium, block cortisone , and force body to upregulate 5 alpha reductase 2
I will start trying to get rid of it on the weekend.
Preliminary , I think I will try acetazolamide plus licorice root as a first route to do this.
Based on the last few sentences of your post, doesn't RU do that as well? It lowers potassium, blocks cortisol etc.
And also what about Ella?
Yes, I will test those also. I just want to test better the activity of 5 alpha reductase 2 after RU cortisol blockage. I assume it will go down. May be that is why people who used RU short term did good, and the slow snap back will take a month.
I want to force the snap back. I aint got a month to be in this garbage state
I know exactly what it did to me, and I want to hit it there. I want to block cortisol to cortisone conversion. And I want to make the body want less cortisol. body needs less cortisol in slow metabolism. It does not need cortisol since metabolism is low. So it will try to upregulate 5 alpha reductase to get rid of cortisol. Cortisol is lowerd by 5 alpha reductase 2 and cortisone pathway. 1) I block cortison pathway, and 2) lower metabolism. It will scream uncle and increase 5 alpha reductase 2.
This is what is happening in hairloss. increased insulin and cortisol and low metabolism. increases 5 alpha reductases 2 .
You become horny as hell but you are getting fatty liver from 5 alpha reductase 2
